Fedor Emelianenko, Strikeforce’s Scott Coker, M-1 Global’s Vadim Finkelchtein, and Showtime’s Ken Hershman held a press conference this afternoon to discuss Strikeforce’s plan for Fedor, and refute some of the alleged misinformation that the UFC released about their negotiations with the Russian heavyweight king. You can read recaps here and here. Though Fedor’s next opponent doesn’t appear to be finalized yet, there were still some eyebrow-raising bits:
— Emelianenko called the offer he got from the UFC “miserable,” and nowhere near the six-fight, $30 million reports that circulated on the internet. Finkelchtein said that if those rumored numbers about Fedor’s contract offer were true, they would have signed with the UFC.
— Finkelchtein claimed that the idea of Anderson Silva as the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world is a product of the UFC media machine, and Brock Lesnar is also just a product of the UFC’s hype. He said that Brett Rogers is better than Brock Lesnar.
— Emelianenko feels "very sorry" that a fight against Lesnar couldn’t happen, but would like his decisions to be respected by fans.
— Emelianenko said that he has full control of all of his contracts, finances, and career, and gets financial reports at all times.
— Fedor also said that the UFC doesn’t treat their fighters like human beings, and they have the wrong attitude torwards their fighters.
— Finkelchtein informed everybody that Fedor’s name is much bigger than the UFC’s outside of the United States, and if Fedor came to the UFC he would make the UFC famous outside of the United States. [Ed. note: The UFC is already famous outside of the United States, and Fedor isn't even a superstar in Russia.]
— Strikeforce will begin construction on the M-1 Global Sambo Stadium and Convention Center this November in St. Petersburg. [Ed. note: Psyche!]
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Comments
Thu, 08/06/09 - 01:40
First. And Fedor is kinda right.. the UFC could afford to be a lot more generous with their fighters.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 01:42
im tired of hearing about fedor and josh barnett to be honest if fedor was such a bad ass the money really shouldnt matter and he should b out there proving hes the best regardless of how much hes getting paid. i just think the russians are milking this illusion of fedor being the best to the very lost drop. we will probably never see fedor in the ufc and actually fighting consistently good heavy weights
Thu, 08/06/09 - 01:53
thaigger.... I would love to see Fedor in the UFC where I think they have a talented HW division. However I must say.... I am a monday morning quarterback like you who thinks the fighters should fight for pride and glory and to be the best... but at the end of the day... if I have a choice between 2 paychecks... I'm taking the larger of the two, so I don't blame Fedor for considering the finances.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 01:54
Fedor is a simpleton. He's Lenny to Fink's George. I like the guy, he's a great fighter, but if he was born in America, he'd be riding the short bus.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 01:55
After reading this I can asure you that Dana White's only goal left in life is to put Strikeforce out of business
Thu, 08/06/09 - 02:00
What happens if DW releases the "offer" sheet and it is indeed more lucrative than the Strikeforce contract? I have a feeling the contract to Fedor was worth more to him personally from the UFC, but the contract from Strikeforce is worth more to M-1 AND Fedor.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 02:04
Wait a tick I thought M-1 and fedor turned down the best offer they will ever get, and it equated to fedor literally running away from a bag of money giving white the finger? Boy I'm really confused now. They must be lying.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 02:05
Strikeforce will begin construction on the M-1 Global Sambo Stadium and Convention Center this November in St. Petersburg. Ha ha ha ha ha. Good one!
Thu, 08/06/09 - 02:05
awesome, he is just telling the truth. Brock was given the title shot for political/money reasons. Beating a guy thats 2-6, losing to frank mir and beating one-eyed heath hearing doesnt even come close to giving you a title shot. Dana skipped the real contenders. Dana pays a lot of his fighters chump change 8,000 a fight for putting there health at risk. even if Bimbo Slice does'nt win tuf if it will make dana money he will sign him anyway. How can people mention Brock in the same sentence!! Brock has 5 fights and he is awesome and beating everyone but he did'nt earn that title shot. Fedor has been fighting for years and beating the best in the world while well lets see, Brock was in the wwe, while brock was in the nfl and when those did'nt work out decided on a late career change and be a mma fighter. Brock has 5 fights Fedor has 30. Brock has lost already and Fedor has'nt(well except what should have been a no contest). Anderson is awesome but looked terrible these last few fights. If thales leites and layed on the ground againt Fedor like he did against anderson it would have been the first death in mma. Fedor finishes fights.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 02:06
Feydor is an idiot, he will fight another nobody in this b-level promotion. Go to yahoosports... what does the link say? "UFC" for a reason right next to "NFL","MLB","NHL" etc. It's the ONLY promotion that matters! Will he make SF famous????? I don't think so. This is the definite end of SF as we know it.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 02:12
One can argue that Fedor truly means what he says about the UFC..ORRRRR... being he is a partial owner of M-1, juuuust maybe he's talking shit about a competitor. Which he's never done in the ring before, ironically.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 02:21
M1 and Strikeforce just poked a bald headed ill-tempered sleeping beer with a stick. Did they honestly think this wouldn't get personal? It's one thing for Fedor to sign with Strikeforce, it's another think to talk shit on their fighters. I see counter programming all over this!! Which means one thing - more free shows for us!! *Does the "Kermit the Frog" Dance*
Thu, 08/06/09 - 02:22
Is this a guest column by Dana White? Ghost, if the UFC indeed offered him more, you don't think Dana White would have already released it? The numbers were bogus and this site ran with them. Break Media must be getting a kick back from the UFC or the Bens randomly became Dana White's biggest fans. Wacky bloggers.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 02:27
@swedish nobody's. AA was number 2 heavyweight in the world when Fedor fought him. You want b-level try beating a guy 2-6 ,losing to Mir(top ten) and beating a one eyed heath hearing in a decision and getting a ufc title shot(WOW TALK ABOUT SOMEONE WHO DESERVED IT).Tim Sylvia was in the top ten when he fought Fedor. Barnett(and I know the fight did'nt happen but was not Fedor's fault. Unless you think he tainted Barnett's urine) was the number 2 in the world. Beat Crocrop in his prime, Big Nog in his prime twice,Matt Linland, and now he will fight maybe Sergi outside top ten but not far, Monson, Rogers top ten, werdum not in top 10 but not far out, Allistar top ten heavyweight.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 02:32
"Emelianenko said that he has full control of all of his contracts, finances, and career, and gets financial reports at all times." I guess Fedor (or at least someone in that camp) really does read the interwebs. LOL at the part about Rogers being better than Brock. That remains to be seen, comrade... just because you both scored flash KO's on Arlovski doesn't automatically mean Rogers is an elite-level fighter. We'll see.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 02:36
Wait..... Finkelchtein says that Brock is a product of the UFC, and Brett Rogers is better, and Emelianenko feels "very sorry" that a fight against Lesnar couldn't happen. So does that mean Fedor will be in damn near tears if The Grim gets shafted and not put in the cage with Fedor? And arent managers suppose to get what the subject wants (to fight Brock)? Ben, please help me figure this out.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 02:37
@ bleve - then why are you on this site? Plus I read the same numbers on other sites as well...... Remember - if it was THAT low, why isnt M1 releasing it? UFC is a well oiled money making machine. They made the model that works. Everyone else has failed - you gonna blame the UFC and Cagepotato for that?? Like it or not, they run MMA. Get over it.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 02:46
I'll have to disagree with Fedor NOT being a superstar in Russia. If Vladimir Putin is coming to support your fights, I'd say that's a pretty big deal. Such events would only raise Fedor's status in Russia even more so.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 02:51
What fuggin difference does it make whether he earned the title SHOT or not? I would say that avenging his one defeat in the brutal fashion that he did should silence assholes like you from saying this stupid shit. Who were they gonna give the title shot to? Cheik Kongo who gets annihilated anytime he winds up on the ground? Fuckin please dude. He is the UFC Heavyweight champion, plain and simple. Watch what I tell you, Fedor will lose, he will no longer be relevant and the UFC won't give two flying shits about him anymore. He's bound to lose sooner or later, my bet is they are dumb enough to throw him in there against Rogers and he gets KTFO.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 02:54
WAR GRIMM!!
Thu, 08/06/09 - 03:02
All I can pray for is Brett Rodgers fights fedor knocks him out and moves over to the UFC. That will make this fan a very happy mo fo.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 03:10
Heck Yes Deathb4tapout!
Thu, 08/06/09 - 03:20
I agree oneday Fedor is gonna lose the difference is Brock already lost. Brock lost his 2nd fight Fedor has never lost. And Fedor doesn't have a defeat to avenge does he? Fedor isnt afraid of anyone although I would'nt blame him for being afraid of a 300 lb roid monster with a giant pee-pee on his chest.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 03:22
What difference does it make if he earned a title shot? Well then why not give bimbo slice a title shot? How get the next title contender if they dont have do earn it? A game of spades?, paper,rock, sissors?
Thu, 08/06/09 - 03:23
@ GODSLONERANGER THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL THAT ANDREI ARLOVSKI WAS RANKED # 2 IN THE WORLD FOR A HEAVYWEIGHT WHEN HE FOUGHT FEDOR! YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!
Thu, 08/06/09 - 03:25
Fedor loses and the ufc wont give a ^*&*^%R^%$%^$$% about him? With that logic why do they care about brock,randy,chuck,mir,gsp,penn etc....... You people are the exact reason I don't do drugs
Thu, 08/06/09 - 03:26
I wish to report to all you faithful CagePotato readers that I, Bank Stanchion, will fight Fedor in his first Strikeforce event. I haven't been in the cage since I took on Melvin, but I am confident that I will be victorious. Besides, I have no arms. What is he gonna do?
Thu, 08/06/09 - 03:26
look it up everyday enemy. Google it he certainly was, look at his record he won like six in a row finished most of them look it up
Thu, 08/06/09 - 03:28
who where they gonna give teh title shot to? Nog or mir two guys that earned it
Thu, 08/06/09 - 03:32
If the UFC's offer was that bad and the numbers low as they claim... M-1 would've released them, if anything to discredit the UFC and prove DW/Zuffa/UFC wrong. I can't seriously believe what they claim regarding the issue. As for the other excepts quoted... Anderson Silva's not the best P4P??? They're inferring Fedor is, and as far as I'm concerned M-1's (or related parties) opinion means little. Silva's had almost twice as many fights (since Dec /05), Silva's had less decision victories and twice as many TKO/KO's than Fedor. In terms of P4P, I wouldn't rank Fedor any higher than 3rd... behind Silva and GSP, and I have a hard time trying to convince myself that one is better than the other of the top two. While I agree that the UFC could treat their fighters (financially), it's also a business. As far as "Strikeforce can market Fedor globally (FiveOuncesOfPain link)... the UFC ppv's air globally... a ridiculous statement, weak at best. Speaking as a canuck... the UFC's far more recognized and well known than Fedor. Not criticizing Cagepotato here, but articles such as this are bullshit hype, just as M-1 claims the UFC does. Strikeforce will lose control over their own organization and big bucks keeping M-1 and Fedor happy. Let's hope Coker is as nonchalant when his power is usurped right from under his feet. I wish I could've been there if/when M-1 asked UFC to build a Sambo stadium and convention center in Russia... "Go f*ck yourself! Build your own damn sh*t you broke bastards!" Could you just picture Dana's expression?
Thu, 08/06/09 - 03:38
@godslonerumpranger. It took you 5 posts to answer? What's with that? Anyhow. Nog and Mir were already fighting for the interim title that Nog beat Tim "The Boxer" Sylvia for. So that logic is out the window.....dumbass. Sounds like someone is bitter because the big Brock monster absolutely tooled his boy Mir. Sour Grapes are the worst kind man, you know that. Like I said, he won the title, defended it, avenging his only defeat in MMA to date. Therefore, he is the UFC Heavyweight champion. Now, run along so you can get back to Shane Carwin's jock before it starts to get cold. I can tell you're one of these guys who is praying for Carwin to do the deed. Spoiler alert-He's gonna get his ass handed to him too. Don't get your hopes up rumpranger
Thu, 08/06/09 - 03:39
how can people say the ufc hw division is the only one that matters? who are those strongest fighters in the world dana keeps talking about? and why does nobody care about the fact that the reigning champ obviously uses steroids?
Thu, 08/06/09 - 03:42
@saku Are you serious dude? Cause it sounds like you're an uneducated idiot.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 03:45
ROFL....Wait a second if MMA is so big outside of the US why doesn't anyone beside the Japanese have a somewhat big league MMA company like a Dream? If Fedor was as big(in Russia) as say Liddell was here in the US Fedor and M-1 could be looting and pillaging all those companies outside the US or making there own Company that treats fighters with respect and diginity blah blah blah. There is hardly any money outside the US otherwise M-1 would be doing there own PPVthing and not leeching onto other already established Companies and then burning the down after they take what they want...BoDog Rip, Affliction Rip, StrikeForce or Farce as it will soon be known if Dana has any control over the matter.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 03:46
@Ismackmydadsbutt listen buddy!Ok then stupid when Mir beat nog he should have fought randy for the belt stupid. Sounds like your sour Mir made brock "penis on my chest" Lesnar tap out like a little baby calling for his mom when he is getting beat up by a bully. At least Mir acted with class both times. He didnt rum around foaming at the mouth sporting his penis tatoo. Brock won fari and square via ground and penis pound Yes I agree Brock is a monster he even has a monster penis on his chest to match. I am not a mir or brock fan. But I do hope and believe Shane gonna whoop that butt. Look how many matches Shane has won and he has still gotta beat cain to get a title shot. Brock was one and one and low and behold the number one contender for the title and the lamest tatoo of all time award
Thu, 08/06/09 - 03:46
"Brett Rogers is better than Brock Lesnar." I agree with him on that, but a fucking 12 year old with chicken pox is better than cock chestner. "Fedor also said that the UFC doesn’t treat their fighters like human beings, and they have the wrong attitude torwards their fighters." yeah right, as if this russian douchebag has any fucking insight on how things are really run on the inside of UFC business, give me a break Faker you don't shit from shinola. "Finkelchtein informed everybody that Fedor’s name is much bigger than the UFC's outside of the United States, and if Fedor came to the UFC he would make the UFC famous outside of the United States. [Ed. note: The UFC is already famous outside of the United States, and Fedor isn't even a superstar in Russia.] " #1 Finklefuck is just blowing smoke out Fedors ass, cause thats where his wallet, and lips have been attached since he signed him. and #2 Thanks Ben for pointing that out in the editors note, I was gonna say the same thing, fuck Fader and his fading career, as if he is anybody, feh. we will see where his fame is and if he can even get more than 1 fight....besides cans.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 03:50
"Bunk Says: Thu, 08/06/2009 - 13:55 After reading this I can asure you that Dana White's only goal left in life is to put Strikeforce out of business" Bunk, dude you can be sure that it will be easier and faster than it took to put ASSfliction outta business :) These guys are doomed to fail, and if they give FUCKER er fedor the money he is use to they wont be able to support another PPV.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 03:51
@godsloneranger - One day you will wake up, all alone in your divorced, alcoholic, crack smoking mothers basement and these will be the facts: 1. UFC will be the only premier league around. Just like Arena Football failed, XFL etc etc SF will fold as well 2. Feyodor will have lost to some nobody (Rogers quite possibly) and the myth will be busted and he will be exposed as a pudgy fraud 3. You will be forced to look in the mirror and tell yourself.... "i'm a failure, my life is a failure"
Thu, 08/06/09 - 03:55
@shanecarwinsnuthuggerlonerumpranger Exactly. I knew you were a Carwin knob choker. What a tool. I would say you're in the minority on this one. So Randy was gonna bring his decrepit old ass back to the UFC and wait a whole fuckin year to defend his title? Right, cause that's how business is done. Are you a noob at this shit because you sound like a 10 yr old kid? Every other word is penis with you. Guess it's safe to say what your orientation is (Don't worry chief, I'm not asking, so you don't have to tell. Just know that you're secret is safe with me.) Boy are you gonna be crying a few months from now. Bless your heart
Thu, 08/06/09 - 04:09
Godsloneranger: "Brock has 5 fights and he is awesome and beating everyone but he did'nt earn that title shot." Brock earned that title shot when he TKO'd the champion.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 04:17
@brockspenisismydaddy Well Randy did bring his old self back and did better against brock than anyone, busted his eye open. I sound like I am 10? You have made more penis jokes than me. I was talking about brocks penis tatoo. I am gay you fav fighter has well yes a giant penis on his chest if you like it it is your business. You are the lame one with all your super cool "mature" cuss words. Oneday I hope to grow up and use all those cool, mature, original cuss words. @swedish Ok I you maybe right about the ufc, I have no argument there. And Fedor if her continues yes he will lose he is human. So oneday soon when you get out of your parents bed, it might be tomorrow morning you will reliize these three things: 1.Brock has already lost. Brock did in his first 2 fights what Fedor hasnt done in 30 fights and thats lose. 2. Brock has already lost so there will never be a myth to bust. 3. You will look in the mirror without a shirt and say "something is missing" and you will get a brock lesnar penis tattoo.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 04:19
swedish anyone that loses is a fraud? I guess that means brock right
Thu, 08/06/09 - 04:29
@BillC Yes brock is good, but the whole point is he never shot of had a shot at randy. Yes he beat randy but he should have had to fought 5 more guys and if he beat them then maybe got a title shot. Look at Shane Carwin look at his record in the ufc and he still has to beat cain to get a title shot. He knocked out garbiel his last fight. Brock was given the title shot because of politics. If he wasnt in the wwe he never would have got that shot and you know that is true
Thu, 08/06/09 - 04:43
Forgive me godsloneranger for using profanity.....I know it makes your vagina pants wet on the inside when I do. I apologize. Maybe I should clear up something here. I never once said that Brock is my favorite fighter, I simply said it's insane to think he didn't deserve the shot. There wasn't anyone else to take it. Go back to 2nd grade and retake reading comprehension son. Now back to the issues at hand. All you can say is. Brock has a penis on his chest. Shane Carwin is awesome, I have all of his posters, etc, etc. You sir are a fuc(no cursewords or loneranger gets sand in his vag).....freaking moron. Who the hell is garbiel that Shane knocked out? I truly believe there is no way you are over the age of 10. You have as much knowledge as the tampon that you changed before you made your last post. Back to being the president of the Shane Carwin ballsack fan club for you, little boy. Leave the posting to the rest of us not firmly implanted on the jock of Mr. Carwin. That.Is.All.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 04:58
Garbiel is better than the 2-6 guy brock beat before ufc and heath hearing. Forgive me for using the penis so much for I know it makes your rectum wet just like Brock's tatoo. Brock no more deserved that title shot than bimbo slice.None else to take the title shot? So mighty brock comes along and goes 1-1 and there's are man. If brock was not in the wwe do you really think he would have got the shot? With the same 1-1 record? Have you been eating clue again. If brock deserves the title shot than everyother heavyweight thats is 1-1 his last two fights deserves it as well. You don't think I am over the age of 10? I don't think you get out of your house,have friends or sleep without a night light
Thu, 08/06/09 - 05:07
Speak english little boy. What exactly are you trying to say? I can't decipher your slingblade writing.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 05:14
You can't read little girl?English? Oh yeah you are king of proper english aren't you? Wipe the semen out of your eyes so you can see. Not enough 4 letter words for you?
Thu, 08/06/09 - 06:12
Fedor is such a joke, whens the last time he's fought someone that mattered ??? I doubt Dana/UFC are lieng to the mma world about the offer, you can say what you want but dw/ufc generally give a fuck about mma/its fighters. As for people complaining about $$ I don't feel sorry for anyone who fights 2-4 times a yr and is a millionaire. The few elite suspects not in the ufc wont get my support, i dont want to support 2 -3 ppv a month just b/c i love mma
Thu, 08/06/09 - 06:43
godsloneranger please explain how brock doesnt deserve a title shot so u bash the ufc.. but fedor signs with a company handing werdum a title shot...not to mention they say fedor doesnt get a title shot but he is the pound for pound champion ...and yet fedor made the right choice? I like mir and i too like carwin and hope beats brock but its a buisness and brock equals money...
Thu, 08/06/09 - 06:45
co promotion dipshits where do you think the real money is? Why fight for peanuts in the UFC for some asshole you don't like who doesn't like or respect you so you can buy him a new jet and the fertitas can buy some new slot machines for their casinos. UFC profits I'd say about 10% goes to the fighters. Fuck em fedor made the right decision here and StrikeForce has the Stronger HW division now. Suck it UFC fanboys.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 06:54
@thescott Well for starters Werdum is not 1-1. He has beat big names before. He was on a nice win streak in the ufc (more than brock by the way) before knocked out by santos. Has been in mma over a year has more than 3 fights under his belt. About the ufc isnt dana always saysing if they do this do than win this then they earn a title shot! I was under the impression Dana made the decision who got the shots based on wins/oppoents/and how good they won. Werdum was offered the title shot before Fedor signed. As to why Fedor doesn't get the shot IMO they want to build him up I guess but I feel Fedor should for sure have the first title shot over werdum but werdum has dont 1,000 times more thank Brock to earn shot. Werdum tapped out allistar. Now thescott please explain to me why deserved a title shot after beating a guy with a 2-6 record losing to frank mir and beating a one-eyed heath herring and getting a title shot?
Thu, 08/06/09 - 07:09
brock was given a title shot because it put asses into chairs and PPV revenue into DW's pockets. the UFC is a business. i'm not denigrating lesnar, he will wipe the mat with any of the current ufc heavies, he was just pushed along prematurely because he was a known, profitable entity. he has stepped up his game, learned from his early mistakes and wants to fight the best opponents. after he destroys the winner of cain/ carwin who's left? rothwell? hahaahaha.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 07:15
for fans of MMA a lotta you guys have no clue what you're talking about.... The second I saw "UFC's unbeatable offer" I knew something was up. DW has been talking trash on Fedor for years now...all of a sudden he's going to offer him $30 million dollars for 6 fights?? Fedor has ALWAYS said that the UFC and DW don't treat their fighters like human beings....this is not new. UFC knew they couldn't get Fedor without giving in to his needs, so instead they create this public smear campaign against him to make them look more credible and make him look like some stupid russian. And yes, Fedor is more popular overseas. Back in pride they used to have tens of thousands of people at their events.....look up the most attended UFC event....it doesn't even come close. Vladimir Putin has attended Fedor's sambo matches.....that'd be like Barrack Obama sitting front row at a Brock Lesnar wrestling match.... Fedor IS the best HW in the world, hands down. All you UFC fanboys talking trash on him have only fallen victim to DW's publicity scam and should think about removing your heads from your asses. If any of you think for a second that Fedor doesn't fight top competition, or he's ducking Brock, you need to find a new sport to watch. In a nutshell....here's whats happened.... UFC knows Fedor is the top HW in the world, THEY HAVE NO INTEREST IN FEDOR FIGHTING BROCK because if Lesnar loses to him his hype will take a huge blow, they just finalized this money gold mine in him, so instead of offering Fedor what he's worth to make Lesnar and the rest of their mediocre HW's look stupid...they offer him the same old contract that he's denied before and instead attack his credibility to make their HW class look better. Wake up and stop actin like you know something.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 07:37
there isn't a single HW fight the UFC could put together with their existing roster that i would pay more than $10.00 to see (in person or on ppv.) anyway you configure it the most compelling match they can field is lesnar vs. someone washed-up or lesnar vs. someone inexperienced/ overly-hyped. oh, wait... nevermind i forgot Rothwell vs. Struve
Thu, 08/06/09 - 07:40
retro speaks the truth. don't let your nationalism blind here, folks. this isn't rocky 3 and if it is it'll be the american on the juice this time..
Thu, 08/06/09 - 07:57
OMG... What Fedor and all you don't understand is one thing. Look at all the pro athletes in this country. It ain't in the money you get from the team/organization, its the money you get from your sponsors that makes you rich. If Fedor had came over here and won the fans over by beating this ass hole Brock a whole butt load of lucrative sponsor deals and everything else would have been running full steam in his direction earning him tens times what every one of these companies were willing to offer him. This is what the UFC offers that no one else offers is TV time on a stage that everyone is watching. These idiot Russians don't get this because this ain't how it works in their shit hole country. Fedor and his mafia overlooked a pot full of gold that won't exist ever again. Brock won't be hated like this forever, people won't want someone to beat him horribly forever, Fedor won't be in his prime forever. Plain and simple they screwed up big time here.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 08:04
stronger hw division...really? Rogers is ok but has a great future (in the UFC)...ummmm uhhhh overeem hasnt done s@#t other than nutshots in a year... Werdum lost to the numb 7 or 8 guy in the ufc and coulda been the champ of strikeforce...and then? Vs. Mir. Couture..big nog...carwin...congo...velaquez...cro crop...and anyone else wants to buy to get away from strikeforce...plus u add rothwell and all the guys from the next TUF including simms and big country...yeah strikeforces roster is pretty niceeee.
Thu, 08/06/09 - 08:10
Thank you retro, finally someone on this board who knows what the fuck they're talking about. UFC groupies are looking at it from the perspective of an adolescent fan of the WWE... yes the UFC are going in other markets but there's huge opportunities and endless talent around the world, how can you blame Fedor and M-1 from a business perspective. If you're a businessman or part owner of an organization (Fedor) you think in terms of years not single matches. If you like MMA and you have a brain that think past the latest UFC press release/Bens' blog, the latest shakeup is the best thing that's happened in awhile. "...Is there room for all of us under the umbrella of the UFC? ... Right now, there's only the UFC. You only have to fight in the UFC to make a living fighting, and I mean, everybody can't fight in the UFC, you know. They only got so many fight cards; there's only so many fights. And you know, there's just a wealth of good fighters coming up." -Forest Griffin
Thu, 08/06/09 - 10:32
Anyone who thinks that Strikeforce has descent HW is retarded. Overeem has never beaten a top 10 HW, and has lost to several LHWs. Werdum has beaten Gonzaga (now that's impressive?) and lost to Arlovski. Brett Rogers is completely unproven and does anyone really think he has shot?
Thu, 08/06/09 - 11:04
" retro Says: Thu, 08/06/2009 - 19:15 for fans of MMA a lotta you guys have no clue what you're talking about.... The second I saw "UFC's unbeatable offer" I knew something was up. DW has been talking trash on Fedor for years now...all of a sudden he's going to offer him $30 million dollars for 6 fights?? Fedor has ALWAYS said that the UFC and DW don't treat their fighters like human beings....this is not new. UFC knew they couldn't get Fedor without giving in to his needs, so instead they create this public smear campaign against him to make them look more credible and make him look like some stupid russian. And yes, Fedor is more popular overseas. Back in pride they used to have tens of thousands of people at their events.....look up the most attended UFC event....it doesn't even come close. Vladimir Putin has attended Fedor's sambo matches.....that'd be like Barrack Obama sitting front row at a Brock Lesnar wrestling match.... Fedor IS the best HW in the world, hands down. All you UFC fanboys talking trash on him have only fallen victim to DW's publicity scam and should think about removing your heads from your asses. If any of you think for a second that Fedor doesn't fight top competition, or he's ducking Brock, you need to find a new sport to watch. In a nutshell....here's whats happened.... UFC knows Fedor is the top HW in the world, THEY HAVE NO INTEREST IN FEDOR FIGHTING BROCK because if Lesnar loses to him his hype will take a huge blow, they just finalized this money gold mine in him, so instead of offering Fedor what he's worth to make Lesnar and the rest of their mediocre HW's look stupid...they offer him the same old contract that he's denied before and instead attack his credibility to make their HW class look better. Wake up and stop actin like you know something." wwwwop woop woooppppp, BULLSHIT ALERT! dude you live in such a fantasy world. No point in beating you up over it, you will wake up one day...maybe when you fucking grow up.
Fri, 08/07/09 - 01:33
Fedor's pudgy.
Fri, 08/07/09 - 04:55
first of all the guy with a 2-6 record was before the UFC no? As i stated before the UFC is a business that is why he GOT the title shot, i never said he EARNED one. I think he got a shot early but to defend Strikeforce and giving Werdum a title shot (and apparently 2 other guys that were ready to fight on the August card) is ridiculous. I know that Fedor is the best HW fighter in the world and # 2P4P behind GSP in my opinion but you cant defend the place he went to and their way of giving out title shots(Joe f*%&kin Riggs...really???) and bash Dana for what turned out to be a great BUSINESS decesion. If you recall Dana put Lesnar in against Mir and Herring (who i think may have a more accomplished resume than Werdum for all your bashing of him) before Couture and as was stated earlier on here it was more of a timing thing to fight Randy. He at least won his fight before a title shot, and using Werdum beating Overeem as your qualifier is stupid as well...Werdum is good because he beat the champ who hasnt fought in forever... Not to mention" As to why Fedor doesn't get the shot IMO they want to build him up" they just had a huge press conference saying he was the best HW in the world, what does he need to do to earn teh shot save a few babies and cats from a fire.. Strikeforce will be done within a year now that they have the M-1 Curse and Dana will be laughing all the way to the bank.. Good luck with your Fedor vs Carano pay per view becuase that is the best chance they will have to stay afloat in 12 months... Catchweight of 190...
Fri, 08/07/09 - 05:35
thescott I am glad you said he didnt ear it and it was for money. I just wish dadn would admit and all this garbage about earning a shot is just hot air. Yes its a business but that doesn't make it right. Dana is always the one barking p4p4 best fighter in the world,,,,blah blah blah he is gonna have to beat so and so and we will see if he gets a title shot. I wasn't defending strikeforce you asked me what did werdum do to earn and shot and I told you. I agree about riggs! You think herring has accomplished more than wedum. Strikefoce maybe done in a year I never said they would put ufc out of business. But merging with dream is awesome. They can put on some good main events. Brock Lesnar is a steriod using man that has a mighty record of 4-1 and Fedor is 30-0. It takes years of consitent fighting to earn his palce in the sport Brock skipps all of that and in over a year later is like the number 4 in the world. Acted crazy after he beat mir, very =========
Fri, 08/07/09 - 05:59
wow guys you're right, godsloneranger is ilitereat. oh and sPeLLcHeCk in the article itself: "the wrong attitude torwards their fighters" ?
Fri, 08/07/09 - 06:22
overeem never beat a top 10 heavyweight? True, but neither did Brock before he "earned" his title shot.
Fri, 08/07/09 - 07:33
"wwwwop woop woooppppp, BULLSHIT ALERT! dude you live in such a fantasy world. No point in beating you up over it, you will wake up one day...maybe when you fucking grow up." you couldn't have said anything more on point to prove mine 'UFC fan'...thanks ...i've been a fan of MMA for almost 10 years now... like it or not i know what i'm talking about....while you're dick riding lesnar like you're his chest tatoo
Fri, 08/07/09 - 08:38
Fedor has a Chuck belly going on in that pic, to funny.
Fri, 08/07/09 - 09:45
well at least with fedor's belly we know he aint on roids.
Fri, 08/07/09 - 11:31
One giant lame-ass headache, all this. I'm over it. Over it, I tell ya.
Fri, 08/07/09 - 12:31
i personally think Fedor would destroy Brock, as he has done with all other competition, however he and M-1 made a mistake not going to the UFC. As far as the earning a title shot again, your points are valid but Strikeforce takes a dart and throws it against a wall and whoevers pic it lands on gets a title shot... Lesnar (again not the world's largest fan) has never tested positive for steroids, so you referring to him as steroid usiing man is silly, not 1 positive test in college, not 1 positive when he played for the Vikings, not one since his MMA career started so please give that a rest. Pick on him for being a huge lay and pray no action sonof a bitch sure, but steroids are irrelevant. Lesnar may not have paid his dues but he beat the shit our of Herring, Randy and now our boy Mir. Was he a scumbag afterword, sure but who gives a shit. Fedor is not 30-0 he has a (bullshit) loss.Do you really believe Overeem or Werdum would have a shot in hell at Lesnar? Or even Carwin for that matter? Strikeforce will be a year maybe 18 months than done....That sucks for MMA but they shouldn't have f'ed with Dana...
Sat, 08/08/09 - 08:15
"retro Says: Fri, 08/07/2009 - 07:33 "wwwwop woop woooppppp, BULLSHIT ALERT! dude you live in such a fantasy world. No point in beating you up over it, you will wake up one day...maybe when you fucking grow up." you couldn't have said anything more on point to prove mine 'UFC fan'...thanks ...i've been a fan of MMA for almost 10 years now... like it or not i know what i'm talking about....while you're dick riding lesnar like you're his chest tatoo" wow 10 years huh? I got boxing gloves older than you....fuck off you tard you know jack and shit, and jack just left town.
Sat, 08/08/09 - 11:44
you're a fucken joke.... i said 10 years because who really watched mixed martial arts before the late 90's....not very many people.. and good for you and your boxing gloves....sounds like u mightve taken a few too many shots in your day "fuck off you tard"......lol "UFC Fan" you sound 15 years old...
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