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- June 14, 2011 at 9:08 am
another example of why you don't go FULL retard when writing an article...
- June 14, 2011 at 7:18 am
Writer X’s points are either half-truths or old and stale or both. When comparing AVERAGE PPVs from 5 years ago, did anyone think to compare number of events? 12x450k is not the same as 16x450k. My gut feeling is that there are both more PPVs and more televised events now than back in the UFC 50?s when I began watching. And both are revenue streams for the UFC and equal to growth. How come the fighter salaries have risen and bonuses nearly doubled if they’re making the same money? They wouldn’t.
- June 14, 2011 at 7:08 am
Seriously here's some numbers -
in 2005 there were 10 events
I think even a simpleton could see growth here.. lets assume they were all PPV's (they arent but im sure the Live events garner some decent cash) in any case there is growth, at an average price of $55/ppv ($50(SD)$60(HD)) he went from revenue of 274MILLION to this years revenue of a mere $603 MILLION. more than 50% growth since 2005, id say is impressive, particularly considering that most of this occurred during a GLOBAL ECONOMIC CRISIS.
I think you get the point.. I took about 20 minutes to figure these stats out... but good news.. other than the facts I thought that the piece was well written.
- June 14, 2011 at 6:14 am
I just love that caption - best one so far. I'm a woman and a HUGE fan of MMA and the UFC. My opinion of Dana is that he's a guy in charge of a guy sport. All the stupid 12 year old guy behavior from the athletes, etc is acceptable to me because it's a testosterone driven sport and always will be. It would be nice if the fans didn't forget that there are women fighters and if the UFC would promote those fighters as well. It would be nice for future generations of girls to see MMA as a viable sport for them. All of this would be nice, but its not something I expect to see. As long as the sport is guy driven it will be a guy's sport, and I will expect to be the only girl in the room - as usual. Does that make it less legitimate? Of course not, but it doesn't help either.
- June 13, 2011 at 2:10 am
According to MMAPayout.com, the first 12 months (2/4/06-2/3/07) saw 11 events with an average of 515k buys and total PPV buys of 5,670,000. The last 12 months (3/27/10-3/19/11) saw 16 events with an average of 624k buys and total PPV buys of 9,990,000.
There are 75% more PPV buys per year.
- June 10, 2011 at 11:19 am
Articles like this make me realize why CP is not BloodyElbow, MMAfighting, Sherdog, MMajunkie, etc. Pretty gutless. I think Dana is a fairly large sized asshole but look what the guy did with his friend's money. Stick to posting comedy stuff and naked ring girls. Leave the journalism to the journalists.
- June 10, 2011 at 10:18 am
I completely disagree with Gladheateher's comment that "This type of journalism is silly. I cant take it seriously."
As a member of the sports media myself I back insightful, opinion-based journalism such as this wholeheartedly.
I have no doubt that this feature is going to be immensely popular and I’m sure the numbers – in terms of reads and comments – will back this up.
Keep it up CP!
- June 10, 2011 at 9:33 am
No question, keep Dana, since he's been at the helm the UFC has experienced exponential growth. Just off the top of my head you have: the purchase of Pride, WFA, WEC, & Strikeforce, the creation of The Ultimate Fighter (and say what you will, but it's 14th season is about to start), MMA sanctioning in the majority of North America, the UK, Australia, & Germany, a partnership with microsoft, facebook, youtube, ESPN3, Flash Entertainment, Versus, Spike, Showtime, and whatever the name of that Chinese internet TV channel is called. And "writer X" compares UFC buys for 52 & 126, that Liddell/Couture 3 versus Shogun/Jones, which is hardly a fair comparison. It seems awful conveniant to overlook GSP/Shields. Dana is a promoter, his job is to make you believe that every fight he's selling you is the most exciting and competative fight to date; incedentally, he is also the president of the UFC & ad hoc figurehead of MMA, making his other job to convince you that MMA & the UFC is the safest, most exciting, fastestest growing sport in existence. No one has to "sell" you the validity of the NFL or NBA anymore, & this is why those sports don't have Dana-like characters any longer. If you concede that MMA isnot yet on solid ground as a legitimate sport, then you must alsi concede that Dana is a necessary evil for the moment.
Spitting into the wind
- June 10, 2011 at 9:18 am
Well said Goldstein! For one of them there Jews you're alllright!!!!
Tell Brookhouse/Snowden to eat a fucking dick.
- June 10, 2011 at 8:53 am
@ArmFarmer - if they look like big pieces of shit beating the shit out of each other, with Rogan and Goldie sounding like diarrhea... well I hope you'll still be a fan. Haha
- June 10, 2011 at 8:51 am
One thing that was forgotten in the pro-Dana argument... this is a biggie... Why are PPV buys stagnant? It has nothing to do with Dana's foul mouth. It doesn't help that they aren't on broadcast TV yet... but don't forget that this country is in the middle of a huge recession. People aren't buying a lot of things right now, or they are at least cutting way back. $50 PPV buys are tough to swallow when there are a couple a month and people are hanging on to their dollars. Gas is high, utilities are high, everything is more expensive right now. That's one of the biggest problems. Make they PPV's half price and see if they buy rate goes up.
Plus, the sport has gotten big. When I first started watching UFC, you had to buy it or else you couldn't see it. Now I can take my pick of 10+ bars in town where I can watch it for free. That's because of the huge growth. Every bar that shows the PPVs is PACKED to the gills for every event... because people would rather shell out $40 for wings, beers, and tip than pay more to watch it at home. And a lot of those broke summabitches just sit there and watch the free fight and only order a Coke with free refills.
- June 10, 2011 at 6:29 am
It's obviously Ben Fowlkes.
- June 10, 2011 at 5:39 am
They could just keep doing what they are doing for 10 years and the demographic they are reaching will broaden on it's own. If you were 30 when you started watching tuf1, then 10 years from now you're going to be in your late 40's and chances are you will still be a fan. That's the way I see it happening. It will evolve on it's own as the current fans age and the new fans come in. 30 years from now, assuming mma doesn't completely collapse, it should be as big as the other major sports. I'm not going to turn my back on mma just because I turned 40 or 50. At least I hope not, not so sure after the latest southpark episode lol
- June 10, 2011 at 4:22 am
There is no other word to perfectly describe "Writer X" than cunty. This isn't Ben vs Ben because I refuse to believe that Ben F would have an issue with the whole cunty situation. Maybe its just Ben G doing both sides though, thats possible.
- June 10, 2011 at 3:05 am
I'd also like to say, the head of FIFA is Sepp Blatter, who is sexist, short-sighted and corrupt. He has held the job for years and football has not only held onto its position as the world's biggest sport but it has grown. He has stood in the way of any innovation or technological advances and has generally been a prick. I prefer Dana White, much.
Buff Frank Mir
- June 10, 2011 at 1:55 am
Isee Dana as a fan as much as a business man. I agree with much (not all) of what he says. his reasons for disliking CP, I don't agree but for fighting there's no better!!
- June 10, 2011 at 1:44 am
Like karma said "were all UFC nutthuggers over here".
Seriously though, how could anyone expect mma to overcome what boxing never could?
BTW, the stats quoted in both articles are useless. You can't base an argument with data taken out of context, unless you're in junior high and you have an essay due tomorrow.
I think these writers are having a competition to see who can get the largest comment count.
Buff Frank Mir
- June 10, 2011 at 1:27 am
I'm sorry, but i quit reading when i heard the writer X pro Maggie H part. I assumed maybe unwarranted, that since its against BG that this article is biased....
Mir please break Brocks neck
- June 9, 2011 at 11:51 pm
I 100% agree with Catalyst8487 . Dana is promoting the UFC and is doing it WELL. Fact is, MMA is 'as real as it gets'. I dont know how anyone watches golf or baseball. Ive been to more exciting funerals than watching those 'sports'. I DO feel that MMA and the UFC are a business FIRST! And right now...BUSINESS IS VERY GOOD. Remember back when Dana had a little hair and Evan Tanner (R.I.P.) was champ? The venues were empty! Now... the term 'sold out' is synonymous with UFC PPV's. I pose this last statement..in response to this article.... Ask yourself THIS question: IF Dana was to be released, would it stop YOU from tuning in to UFC events? Dana or no-Dana.... I enjoy the fights and Im a fan. Im an MMA fan....and the UFC brings it to my TV. I dont care about the UFC..... If CBS or NBC or Ricks Fight League brought GOOD fights to my TV....I'd watch them too. Its all about WATCHING GOOD FIGHTS..... no matter whom 'brings it'. Quite frankly... I would be more 'upset' if Joe Rogan got let go. I enjoy his commentary. But if he got canned.... Frank MIr or Kenny Florian could fill the seat (Id be fine with that too). Thx for reading.
- June 9, 2011 at 11:05 pm
Dana should stay - no doubt about it. On a side note I just want to say the CP users make me laugh out loud with every visit. Not only are you all fucking hilarious but you all have some great opinions , most of them actually valid. The ironic thing is, half of you who bitch about "I could of won that fight" or "Man he was shit", are probably just as overweight as me, sitting at your keyboard and haven't been in a fight since school or college. Either way, I just wanted to take the time to say I love you all. Oh and CP, I'm still awaiting my free T shirt from you guys. I live in Denmark, but I will be visiting New York. So you can post it to me there - What a great CP fan I am, wanting to promote your site with a t shirt AND save you money on postage....
Cage Potato "That's a big fucking request but FUCK it, I'll do it"
Thanks in advance
- June 9, 2011 at 10:51 pm
Writer X is a bit cunty imho.
- June 9, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Ever since I became an MMA fan, I've had mixed feelings about Dana White.
I think he's done a hell of a lot for the UFC, and by extension, MMA in the US. And frankly, despite my beefs with him about certain issues, I still find him a likeable character. I do think he's hindering MMA to some extent with his focus on that 18-34 male demographic, but I don't think that's necessarily personal; I think if he saw the value in reaching other demographics, he would.
What I'd like to see, more than anything, is reaching out to those other demographics--because the potential is there. I know plenty of women who are interested in MMA, and men outside those age ranges, who have become MMA fans thanks to having someone explain what's going on (and who have a natural appreciation for watching good violence). Making a point of explaining what's going on, featuring female fighters, and making sure ALL fans feel welcome are my top recommendations to do this.
This is a relatively new sport, and everyone I've shown clips to is baffled about why I'm into it until I explain what the fighters are doing and why. All the women I've talked to about MMA are much more interested when I show them female fights. There's just no reason for the UFC--and Dana--to settle for an audience solely of bros when a whole lot more people might be interested. The skills and violence and excitement inherent to MMA aren't going to evaporate if more and different kinds of people are watching.
- June 9, 2011 at 10:27 pm
Yeah, love CP but this whole lets talk serious about the UFC and what they should and should not condone is getting a bit old. The UFC/MMA will be as mainstream as boxing and to think it will be whatched by the whole family during public holidays is laughable, it's a fucking blood sport for christ sakes I wouldn't want my kids watching it, my wife can't sit in the same room when I'm watching MMA and I get that, it's exactly the same as I don't give a shit about what sex samatha has had/having in the city. I watch UFC for the same reason I read CP. The UFC is still crackin along full of character and entertainment inside and outside of the ring, CP your turning into the vagina monologues with these articles.
- June 9, 2011 at 10:20 pm
first off the whole demographics thing is bullshit...... just cause you say so? I don't fucking think so and I happen to know better.
dumbest, most self serving, self important clap-trap I ever seen written.
lastly ....Goddamn it Ben Goldstein you stupid ass when are you going to accept the fact you fucked up, you deserved your dressing down, and your gonna be blacklisted by Dana until you fix the goddamn problem here.....writing stupid fucking garbage like this will not help your cause. grow up man, just cause all your demographics thing your great doesn't mean your messageboard is growing....ohhh see what I did there? Yeah exactly, shoes on the other foot now huh?
- June 9, 2011 at 7:24 pm
So he can't be a businessman AND a character? He grew the sport thanks in part to his character. Now that's business.
- June 9, 2011 at 6:53 pm
I think writer x id either miker , bg, or the spammer. Of course all could be the same. Damn you anonomous internet
- June 9, 2011 at 6:08 pm
I honestly think DW is a great face for the company sure he is a braggart but he kicks ass and speaks his mind just like the fighters we love to watch in the UFC this fight won't be basketball but it is bigger then the x games or almost any other niche sport out there.
I do think it will continue to grow but no entertainment can keep growing at their former rates now they just have to sustain fanbase and grow steadily if it kept growing at the rate it was it would burnout.
Thanks for the debate cp.
- June 9, 2011 at 5:55 pm
Ok writer x. My turn. Last night burrows cheap shotted a goalie at the closing moments of a game decided. His punishment? 2 min early shower. Nhl executives do not have the balls to deal with it. Daley cheap shots during a contender match, dww bans him. Nfl\nba\mlb players make racist comments almost daily, not a single commissioner has the balls to step in. You have never once seen dw be afraid. Drugs, 20 babies mommas, paid thru a 10 year contract and broke (buy 1 share of the celtics. You will see) and they do nothing if the media doesn't whine. Zuffa held a conference on money management. Dw's suggestion. He ain't your cup of tea (penis flavored) but what you miss is 3 things:
A. Dw is one of us the most sought after demographic ever. No matter how old he gets.
B. The fetteris do the business side. They all use their strengths.
C. If we need to appease a bitch like you who writes like bg. Well the sports dead anyway.
- June 9, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Vote goes to BG. However maybe Ol' DW should take his own advice and maybe "learn to play the game". We don't need more Stern's and Goodell's, but White should definitely tone down his attitude in some cases.
- June 9, 2011 at 5:50 pm
paragraph comments = yaaaaaawn. boot'em!
- June 9, 2011 at 5:08 pm
So, unless Dana can get the UFC to appeal to that crucial 14-16 year old girls market, he's a failure? I hate to break it to you, but UFC appeals mainly to young males, and it will ALWAYS appeal mostly to young males. It's the nature of the sport. It's like saying that Justin Bieber is a failure (Hey, I know he sucks, but he makes LOTS of money) because he hasn't cracked the 30 year old male demographic.
And 25% growth (400K to 498K for average PPV sales) in a few years is pretty damn impressive, especially considering that the number of PPV's a year has increased considerably. Hows does making more money per show, and having more shows per year = Stagnation?
- June 9, 2011 at 4:54 pm
Writer X: is it you, Dad? I still miss dad...
- June 9, 2011 at 4:47 pm
No. The UFC still needs Dana White for a while more. Everyone sees this mainstream sport and network deal as all there is left to the sport, when that is just the endpoint. Far from the case. The sport is still growing and evolving, and he is the driving force behind it; PPV numbers are not everything. The brand has expanded in such a short time unbelievably. For the big announcements that everyone laughed off in the opening of foreign UFC offices, huge. The fighters' summit and insurance plans, huge. The social media use, huge. The pieces are still being laid down.
But yes, he will have to step back eventually. He can't get it to the top of the mountain (mainstream, he may get a network deal). He will have to step back and quiet up, and continue to earn his deserved 9% share. The UFC is going to need someone with his level of passion for the sport, but the pure record that can go mainstream. Not the hotheaded, media controlling, f-bombing man who has done everything for the sport, but someone who can be vetted and accepted by the public (your David Sterns, Bud Seligs, Roger Goodells); even-tempered professionals, but with a passion for the sport to match and to be the promoter that Dana White has been.
And this all has been started. The next one has already been selected. It's uncertain when he will take over fully, but he will be introduced over time and built up to be as recognizable as Dana White. He is the fucking cardboard cutout of what the commissioner of a sport should be, but also young, in touch with the fans, and the same tireless promotion that DW brings. The UFC is building a temple here; DW has laid the foundation, secured the kingdom, and killed the enemies. But the temple can't be built with the blood on his hands. The UFC's Solomon is coming in the future. Watch.
- June 9, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Dana White is who we need,the douch bag that wrote the article, must be one of those homos thats very sensitive. The PPV numbers ain't going down and their multlipying by the year, I remember only havin 1 PPV every 2 months slowly were having up to 3 shows a month 2PPV and a freebie, so how is it on a decline Boxing has maybe 2 on a good year!!!!
- June 9, 2011 at 4:35 pm
I don't wan't a polished image of some cunty tool of a business man representing MMA. I wan't someone who speaks his mind as I believe Dana does. I could care less if MMA gets as popular as the NFL or the NBA.
- June 9, 2011 at 4:30 pm
The UFC will never propel mma to be as mainstream/popular/etc. as the main sports of the world so long as Dana White continues to act in the manner he does. He either has to reform his image and the UFC's. As for mma in the U.S., the same aforementioned reasons apply. A combat sport will not be as mainstream as other sports in the world and socieities in this day and age, especially when the UFC is dominating mma with its tyrannical prick as its president. Professional fighting doesn't appeal to everyone of all ages. It's sad, but true.
- June 9, 2011 at 4:25 pm
I think Rampage went too far though, with the humping thing a while back, but charges can be pressed. This is why there is a justice system.
- June 9, 2011 at 4:23 pm
If you do not put your name on your opinion, it is not your opinion and is therefore invalid. For all we know, Writer X could be some random 14 year old kid from the Sherdog forums. You guys cry out for professional standards, what happened to journalistic standards...you know like putting your name to things, not using 'anonymous sources'. this is weak, weak sauce.
In terms of growth, X talks about pay per view buys, but does not mention the increased frequency of events each year. You are basically saying that there are only 50,000ish more pay per view buys per ppv. Combine that with an increased number of pay per views per year and that growth turns into more significant growth, which we have. This also ignores increased gate revenues as well as ancillary revenues such as UFC gyms (or something else that probably actually makes money).
I watch MMA because I love martial arts and hate generic sports talk. A UFC broadcast that excluded Joe Rogan because he said a word on the internet would be a sad thing. I don't want Gus Johnson or any normal sportscaster, MMA is awesome because it is full of characters, something that existed in other sports in the 60s not now though. They all act like Tiger Woods (Pre-Fallout), which is booooring.
- June 9, 2011 at 4:18 pm
No growth? From a pay-per-view every couple months, ultimate fighter once a year, no replays on tv, no free tv events, and no prelims airing to: At least one pay-per-view per month, One free event every 6 months, Fight Nights on TV, Ultimate fighter one right after another, live prelims airing on free tv or internet, replays on Spike, and a zillion MMA websites promoting the shit out of the UFC ...really now .. this guy is a credible writer? Give me a FKN break. Does he have any marketing or television experience to run numbers? Obviously not. I do not even need to read BG's response to side with him. Pathetic writer X. Keep your head in the sand, Thats clearly where it belongs.
- June 9, 2011 at 4:02 pm
"By Writer X"
He's so ashamed of his POS article that he doesn't have the guts to put his real name up.
- June 9, 2011 at 4:02 pm
Do you know how bored I am of listening to GSP do pre-fight interviews. Why? Because he sounds like a fucking robot! A robot that is selling his brand and doesn't want to go off-point and hurt his profitability.
This supposed sexist behavior you babies are still talking about is acceptable to the UFC because fighters antics often help with promotion (money). But once you enter the media machine of network sports profitability will demand that you discipline your athletes, and all in the name of respect for women (or whatever the offended group is).
Only the terminally naive think this is about respect for anything but making money.
The rawness of the sport and it's participants is a large factor in it's success. Polish it away at your own risk.
Nut Puncher 9000
- June 9, 2011 at 4:00 pm
I just wanted to say that if you need, I will debate ANYONE, on any topic MMA related and hold my ground. I dont care what it is. Try me...PLEASE.
- June 9, 2011 at 3:59 pm
I just wanted to remind Writer X that here at Cagepotato We're all UFC Nutthuggers(PLease refer to posts before the Strikeforce Buyout). I think Dana white is the best thing for MMA honestly and he isn't going anywhere so I'd get comfy with the idea of having him at the Helm until he's about the age of 93(I.E. Ralph Wilson) or until he some how has cholesterol overload. Is he cocky? Yes, but does he not have a damn good reason to be cocky? Yes. Conversation over.
- June 9, 2011 at 3:58 pm
hey nation dont forget about growth in the rest of the world. its not all about the US market. england, australia, canada are all ppv nations as well. so even if ufc do 450000 buy over there im sure the will top that number up. ufc is growing and we should look at international ppv numbers too. dont forgot about downloaders who download the event a half an hour after its finished. dana is doing a great job.
- June 9, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Dana White is the type of person I'd hang out with... but not hire. The fact is, the UFC grew because it gobbled up competition because the brothers have deep pockets, not because Dana did anything intelligent. MMA was going to grow no matter what... yes the company was falling apart and unable to do shows when it was purchased BUT keep in mind the changes made to allow it to happen were decided by the commissions. Dana is too busy trying to appeal to the fans.... let the fighters do that... Dana should be trying to appeal to businesses.
- June 9, 2011 at 3:51 pm
As much as I hate to agree with a Jew, BG has my vote.
- June 9, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Is that Kevin Iole still bitching about DW in regards to Maggie's stupid fucking article. Seriously grow a pair. Your website's 15 mins of fame is over.
- June 9, 2011 at 3:47 pm
Not that I don't always love what he says, but RSparrow said everything that needs to be said on the matter.
Kid Clam Curtains
- June 9, 2011 at 3:46 pm
@ Fried Taco
You're right...it is Ben v Ben. Writer X complaining again about Joe Rogan using the term 'cunty' gave it away.
- June 9, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Get Off Me
- June 9, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Until there is reform to judging the sport(judging all disciplines evenly) and some changes in rules during the fight, it does not matter if Dana White is at the helm or not of the UFC. the UFC's primary obstacle that needs to be addressed, they cannot even address themselves, they need commissions to start clarifying the judging criteria. If Dana can somehow acknowledge this fact and work towards remedying the situation than he has a shot a getting into other demographics.
- June 9, 2011 at 3:40 pm
"it matters what they are bringing in, and if that is the same number of buys per show but twice as many shows per year then they are at 100% growth"
no it doesnt. If its the same fuckin ppl buying the PPVs' that doesn't mean the audience is growing just the UFCs' wallets
Why didnt DfuckinW install a carbon copy of himself in what is, in his words, the most important market in the world, being Canada? Tom Wright sure doesn't talk or present himself like the baldfather, seems to be doing a good job.
DW realizes himself that he isnt always the best man for the job, thats why one of the Ferittas are brokering(supposedly) the deal with Showtime
Why are ppls' panties in such a bunch over this article, go have a good cry and get it out of your system
- June 9, 2011 at 3:19 pm
It's nice you finally brought back Ben vs. Ben!
- June 9, 2011 at 3:19 pm
"UFC, as a brand, is stagnant"
No, it's not. Cherry picking one random event and saying PPV numbers are the same doesn't mean jack.
The UFC adds more events every year and keeps the average buyrates consistent, the total buyrates year over year have continued growing, and they are available on Spike and Versus in increasing amounts (nevermind the fact that they also own Strikeforce, which is available on Showtime and HDNet)
I know only a few people really geek out enough to read sites like MMAPayout that actually look over these numbers, but I'd expect a writer to do a bit better than a random internet commenter.
Also, CP, send this idiot back to BloodyElbow.
- June 9, 2011 at 3:16 pm
Ben wins via Writer X not having the SACK to put his name on it. It should say Writer XX instead. BOOM! #misogynismrules
- June 9, 2011 at 3:14 pm
Okay, so I guess this is more than just what the title question implies, and you actually have arguments on both sides. Still, it is a stupid fucking argument to have in the first place.
- June 9, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Didn't yet read the article, but from just looking at the title I'd say, "HELL FUCKING NO!"
I'm not even going to indulge this crap by explaining why, other than to just say he is the primary reason we still have this sport today, and he is the primary force for its continued growth. And I feel this way without ever having interned for him, either.
- June 9, 2011 at 2:59 pm
It seems to me that both writers failed to realize that Dana promotes the UFC, a brand, and not MMA, a sport. MMA as a sport is thriving but the UFC, as a brand, is stagnant.
I would not replace Dana White. When he is selling a brand he is fucking brilliant.
- June 9, 2011 at 2:58 pm
- Can we stop pretending UFC is some niche sport nobody cares about? They’re sponsored by brands like Harley Davidson, Bud Light and Dodge. Fighters have sponsors like Under Armor and Xbox. Jon Jones and Dana White are currently appearing in a Bud Light commercial. Dana White is appearing at Microsoft’s event to plug UFC being available on Xbox Live. Fighters are appearing on Jay Leno, Jimmy Kimmel, Dr Phil and others. UFC PPVs are outselling all but the most popular of all boxing fights. How much more mainstream can it get?
- If UFC wants to be as widespread as the NFL etc, they need to stop promoting guys fighting and start promoting team sports based out of different cities playing with balls. There are always going to be people who are adverse to combat sports. UFC is no more niche than boxing.
- June 9, 2011 at 2:57 pm
How about a slightly more professional Dana? Too many extremes and not enough logical gray area in these article(s).
- June 9, 2011 at 2:56 pm
@vanilla gorilla "i agree 100 percent"
- June 9, 2011 at 2:56 pm
This article is border-line retarded. Where would the UFC be without him? Let him stick around until he goes out in a big ball of flames.
It could be Snowden, but I think he would have included 3-4 Strikeforce references and some old school UFC stuff.
Also, I don't think he would have been so shortsighted to write the following (even as pretentious as he is):
"Sure, there have been a couple 1 million-plus PPV events, but the average for PPV buys between UFC 57 and UFC 128 is actually 498,704. So, I ask you, where is the growth that White and the UFC speak about?"
LOL... so dumb... so dumb.
- June 9, 2011 at 2:56 pm
both had some decent points, however to rebut the oblivious writer x who wrote .
*Sure, there have been a couple 1 million-plus PPV events, but the average for PPV buys between UFC 57 and UFC 128 is actually 498,704. So, I ask you, where is the growth that White and the UFC speak about?*
roughly 498,000 ppv buys x 49.99 per household = 24,895,020 dollars...
the growth you poignatly bring up is in the UFC's very VERY deep pockets.
now times that by 12 shows per year on average and you get
$298,740,240 a year even if you take the 98 mil away for payroll and marketing expenses and whatnot there making bank, and that good sir , is what it's all about, with a few more years those numbers will quadruple
- June 9, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Why does the UFC need to get any bigger than it is already? It certainly entertains me every time I watch. Screw the NFL and NBA. I like the UFC because it isnt filled with bitchy, cunty, whiney PUSSIES who complain about something like a black guy who beats people up in a cage not acting like a "gentlemen". Fact is, MMA athletes are 100 times classier than and basketball or football players.
- June 9, 2011 at 2:54 pm
This article pisses me off. Here is the real question if you want to talk about growth. How many total PPV buys in 2006 vs 2010. It doesn't matter how many buys there are per show, it matters what they are bringing in, and if that is the same number of buys per show but twice as many shows per year then they are at 100% growth. If you want to analyze it then do it properly, not just in a bitter douchebag who doesn't have press credentials type way
- June 9, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Dana White is the absolute best thing for the UFC, can't find the fan loyalty anywhere else. Writer X lost my interest as soon as he typed the word "behaviour" Grow some nuts!
- June 9, 2011 at 2:46 pm
I cunt read this shit. I mean, I tried, but halfway through Writer X's article I just felt weird down there, nawmsayin? Not good weird, either. So, basically, I'mma quote granpappy..."If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Unless you want me to break it for you. I didn't think so. And goddammit woman MAKE ME A SAMMICH!"
- June 9, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Masculenity is not a bad thing. I'm a suit that reads cagepotato for fuck sakes. On the weekend, I want to drink some beers and watch some interesting fights.
Getting on Network would be nice. If that means no condom depot and sponsors of that similarity, that is fine with me. Until that happens, the marketing on Spike will only reach the niche.
- June 9, 2011 at 2:39 pm
it's jonathan snowden, id recognize that snarky pretentious self important mother fucker's keyboard mashing anywhere
- June 9, 2011 at 2:39 pm
Null vote. This type of journalism is silly. I cant take it seriously.
Kid Clam Curtains
- June 9, 2011 at 2:38 pm
Dana, as abrasive and egotistical as he is, took a shitty, failing company that promotes a joke of a sport and turned it into a massively successful company that promotes a now legitimate sport. Saying he should go is laughable. Do you think David Stern or Roger Goodell could have done what Dana has done? Not a chance. Fighting will always be different than MLB, NBA, NFL, NHL etc. because its inherently much more violent (albeit arguably safer than some). Putting a politically correct ex-attorney vagina at the head of the company will not change the fact that some people don't want to see other people get their faces smashed on TV. He's made almost every right move to this point and is making huge money for himself and his bosses...why change it?
- June 9, 2011 at 2:35 pm
oh, this will get CP on Dana's good side.
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