@fxdfp

Don't believe everything Mike Goldberg tells you. When two fighters enter the ring/octagon/cage/backyard the belt is vacated, and whoever wins the match, is the new champ. The "to beat the champ you have to CLEARLY beat the champ" -talk is all BS. I've seen belts switch owners by split-decision, do you mean all of these fights were judged wrong?

I'm tired of talking about this fight, Shogun lost, Machida won, end of story, but I agree with you on Dana wanting to hype this rematch because there's no one else that Machida could fight right now.

Why was there so much controversy over this fight? You have to TAKE the title away from the champ. You have fight way harder and do WAY more than exchange kicks with the champ to take his title. It has to be done in a decisive fashion so there is no doubt you won and who is the champ. Shogun did NOT do that and I don't think he deserves a rematch. Shogun did NOT out perform the champ that night. He stood with him - got some shots in, took some shots - but did not display why he is worthy of the title. The fact is that there is no one else to fight Machida right now and Dana is trying to make some drama BS out of this...

If Shogun wants the title he has to rip it away from Machida, not gingerly sneak it away...

@OneTwo

I agree with you totally. I think Machida lost and should vacate the title.
Oh wait, does that mean Forrest should vacate the TUF prize and let Stephan Bonnar and Mike Swick fight each other for it? Because I really thought Bonnar won the Finale.

Maybe I don't agree with you after all. Come to think about it, you're an idiot. The only honorable thing to do here is that you stop breathing immediately.

i mean doesnt the picture say it all aha..nd nice new colors by the way

"daoulas" wat the hell are you talking about the only reason forrest won that fight is cuz rampage injured his knee in the second round,rampage woulda knocked him out if that didnt happen on the other hand machida was not injured he just got handled by shogun in every round and i hope he does the same thing in may.fuck machida..

fuck machida. Shogun will smoke his ass in may and I can't wait for the Canadians to start chanting to Machida and Black House, "OVERRATED!!!"

@OneTwo:

I especially like the part where you start "Your retarded". That speaks volumes as to the level of thought you are capable of.

Which explains why you think there is ANY way Shogun took all 5 rounds.

You say that "Shogun landed 40 more strikes" like a strike count means anything. Does it matter that that most of those were glancing blows? Over the span of 5 rounds, that is a whole 8 strikes per round more. That isn't what I would call domination exactly.

So you don't give a shit about the judges, the trained professionals who sit ringside and watch nothing but the fight, or their decisions, yet you expect Machida to vacate the belt because some halfwit on a comments sections says he needs to? WHo are YOU to say that he doesn't deserve the belt? You certainly aren't going to take it from him. Like someone said above, if you have a problem with the judging, don't just talk about it, be about it. Go take the COMMAND seminar at Big Johns school and get to work.

It saddens me how little you actually know about this sport. Keep watching though, you will get it. Hopefully before your 14th birthday.

remind me in 6 months.

^^
Your CLEARLY a shmuck IMO.

To get the title means you have to CLEARLY beat the title holder. Shogun failed to do that.

Shogun nuthuggers can kiss my hairy ass.

Bahaha.

Come on man, yeah some people think Rua won but no one gave him every round, thats just ridiculous.

Machida was awarded the decision, controversial as it may be, but he didn't lose every round. You've got to have the sense to see THAT atleast. Let the rematch decide it, if Rua is that much of a better fighter it will be all the sweeter. I like both fighters, I just wanna see a title fight NOT go to decision.

@onetwo

Hell yeah! Don't let these other crap talkin fags get you down. Clearly they're biased piss drinkin machida lovers.

Your retarded Shogun won every single round. Shogun landed forty more strikes. I'll repeat that Forty. yeah real close fight.

lets see if we fought and you hit me once then i hit you Forty one times. would you call that close. that would be me hitting you forty more times.

I could give two shits what some douche boxing judges think. machida should have enough respect for the Sport, his opponent and the fans to vacate his damn title. everyone knows he ain't the champ including himself.

Tito's porn name should be Poundage Headstrong.

^^Daolus

Agreed. On the coin flip part. ;P

The judges scored it for Machida.

He didn't lose.

A controversial win yes, a win that a lot of people thought should have BEEN a loss, but the judges scored it for Machida. So he won. He didn't lose. No amount of bitching is going to change that. Crappy judging? Yeah probably. Less bitching if it was a Split Decision for Machida? Oh HELL yes. Does any of that change the fact that the judges scored it for Machida? Nope. So shut up.

The fight was not one sided, everyone will agree on that (accept you apparently). Shogun clearly won the last two rounds, with Machida dominating the first and third with the second being up for debate. If it bothers you so much go sign up for Big John's mma ref school, put in a few years regulating fights, and then try and get in as a judge. Maybe you will do better. Shit happens, mistakes happen, roll with the punches. I'm so tired of people bringing this shit up over and over and over. Move on.

I would like to see the better fighter win in the rematch, I am a fan of both. I would also like to see them finish the fight in less than 25 minutes. Thats all. Was I disappointed in the judging, yeah I didn't think it was unanimous for either but I would've accepted a split decision for either side in the end. The rematch is a good idea, just leave it at that.

yeah man if it goes to decision its not an ass kicking.

shogun won just like forrest won against rampage

my point: I AGREE its shity to see belts passed around with leg kicking wars but if you let it go to decision its really a toss of the coin.

It can't be an ass kicking if it went to decision.

Keep crying you dumb ass. Machida has EARNED the belt already, what the fuck are you talking about. He might not have earned that win against Shogun but who cares since THERE WILL BE A REMATCH. If Shogun outperforms Machida and wins, then he clearly belongs champ. If he doesnt, which is probably whats going to happen, then he will be the one needing to EARN it. He didnt earn shit to even get this title fight. Beating Chuck when Chuck is already on his way out is not that impressive. This argument is like your arguments regarding Strikeforce being a way better organization than the UFC, idiot.

HE LOST!!!!! maybe you guys are content to let MMA become boxing. I'm not.

Why should he keep a belt that isn't his?

And as far as watching a rematch, sure if machida wins a few fights and EARNS it. this would be like fedor fighting rogers in his next fight fucking GAY.

i could see if it was a close controvercial decision like coture/vera or rampage /forest but this wasn't a close fight. it was a one sided ass kicking.

"That also happens to be May Day, so maybe Machida and Rua will celebrate by leading their fellow UFC workers in a bloody revolution against the bourgeoisie oppressors in the Zuffa front office."

LOL.

May 1 is also recognized as the beginning of spring. It's a holy day for pagans.

Anyway, let's hope neither Machida nor Rua gets injured or sick before May. The UFC seems to be cursed lately when it comes to fight cancellations.

I'm rooting for Rua.

@OneTwo:

So you expect him to vacate the title, something he fought 5 hard rounds for, when you can't even let the decision go, and you had NOTHING invested in the fight? You had ZERO personal interest in any of the happenings, short of betting on MMA, which is retarded to begin with. But you expect the guy who fought this heart out to just say "Oh, the judges were wrong, I don't want the title"?

You must be joking.

So you don't want to see "this shit again" you say? Which shit is that exactly? The shit where the 2 best fighters at LHW on the planet fight to see who is the champion? Yeah, I can see where you wouldn't want to bother watching that shit.............................................

@ One Two- You are a pussy dude. You would NEVER vacate your title just because other people thought you lost if you happened to be in the UFC. Dumb fuck, if Shogun is a worthy champion then he should have no problem beating Machida again anyway. You seriously have a dumb ass mindset and horrible logic.

^^Tyler Dyrden

Machida had surgery on his hand after the fight, relatively minor, but he would not have enough time to train after being cleared to fight. Assuming his recovery is on time. Thats the biggest reason it was postponed, nothing fancy, nothing controversial, just surgery.

Why in the hell would he vacate his title?

The only person not looking forward to this rematch is probably that hit and run faggot machida.

WAR SHOGUN indeed sir.

I'm not calling him a slimeball cause the judges gave him the win i'm calling him a slimeball for acting like and telling everyone he won, instead of doing the honorable thing and vacating the title. he could at the very least acknoledge the loss which every single person in the MMA community allready knows happened.

And Shogun won't be more dangerous machida knows his game plan and his mistakes machidas getting rewarded here while Shogun gets fucked. If shogun loses its bullshit, and demands another immediate rematch its a god damn joke.

I believe tito reserves the rights to call himself Poundage Poundington, after what he said in regards to his upcoming forrest griffin fight, where he's gonna ground and pound and pound and poundage him, or something to that effect. idiot.,

My question is why will this rematch take so long to take effect? The fight happened in November, but won't be avenged until May? that's about 6 months away! why not 3 months? neither one of them is injured as i recall....why's Dana being so delayed about this? i thought he was the one that was so mad about Shogun losing, right? sorry robthom thats just MO.

one two, you're retarded. you're calling machida a slimeball for getting the W, when it's the judges that make the call....idiot. i just hope machida wakes up and comes out on fire next time, because shogun is only going to get MORE dangerous.

WAR SHOGUN!

The longish wait is actually good news IMO. It would be a mistake to just throw them back together too quick like Sylvia/AA 3. It may be a little longer than necessary, but better a little longer than not long enough for them to be at 100%.
Just have to wait, but I have absolutely no doubt that it will be well worth it when it gets here!

(Shogun clearly won that BTW!)

Fucking vacate your title machida! you slimeball honorless fuck you lost. no one wants to watch this again.

I think they should let shogun pound on the winner of Couture/Coleman, or Ortiz/Griffin first. He deserves the pay day and there's almost no shot of him losing to any of those four guys.