well said... What has dumbfounded me is how one political party in this nation that has 'always' been the more closely associated as "pro-business" party, but in recent years has morphed into this "Terminator" on behave of big business and all of their activities, has co-opted everyday people who had otherwise been just run-of-the-mill Republican voter's. And now, they are protecting insurance premiums, and drug prices. They even voted no recently to allow the government to negotiate the best possible price on behave of Medicare, and the Prescription drug bill that was passed under Republican leadership... Why it is OKAY for the entire World to have cheap drugs, but not the citizens of the U.S., is beyond comprehension...

Life AND Death are neither a liberal nor a rot-gut right-wing Conservative wingnut issue, but I can promise you this, rob-the-knob-bobbing-razor that in order for a nation like ours to remain competitively poised for the major challenges we will face requires we have AND maintain well-educated, healthy citizens, to deal with all of the complexities.

If, you think a big fist and a lousy attitude are how we as a nation are going to win now AND into the future, then perhaps you should become a local MMA wannabe yourself, and leave the thinking to those who have the IQ and are emotionally equipped to deal with the world as it is, not the way some silly halfwit parrots to everyone that it should be.

We (The US) are ONLY a matter of a few years away from the critical tipping point with concern to health care insurance costs. I recently heard a TV show host comment on the health insurance costs he pays for his wife AND he, AND that their premiums have increased to just over $1100.00 per month, and that save for prescription's like blood-pressure AND cholesterol drugs, along with the normal 6 month checkup's that require deductibles he and his wife haven't used his health care insurance even one time.

Sticking one's head in the sand on important the issues that affect us all is idiocy, then spewing a few derogatory statements about people who hold different views than you, is real fucking intelligent flaphead. You need to wiseup, those Right wing radio and TV people who give you your opinions, are "fiddling as Rome burns." Things are more fucked up than you are capable of understanding my friend. Maybe you should increase your propane inhalation to 3 hits an hour!

LoL. ...Sounds like it. Let's go fuck her!

honestly, can Cagepotato refrain from unnecessary posts like this in the future? Who really cares about some off-handed remark from Brock Lesnar. It just cheapens the site.

@RedBaron

Toronto General was like a trip back 30 years, mint-green paint, 2nd rate care, etc. No comparison

This is your argument ... mint green paint ... LOL

I can't beleive that brock said we are a third world country.I go to florida every winter and beleive me I feel sorry for my friends.A friend pays $700.00 a month for insurance and working minimum wages which is way below ours.You dare\ tell us that we are 3rd world country...you moron ..check the way average american lives before opening your big month

9200 equalls, fuck all on the NHS, mother fuckers !!!!!!!!!!!!!

and 9200 equalls about 9650 Canadian!!!! holy fuck Ricky!!!!!

@ J-Dog

Wait... So youre saying it costs you an average of about 9200 per child??? Do the same rules apply for the Duggar's??!!!

Brock sucks balls!! HATE that guy!!

Well shit, if he was at the fuckin Mayo Clinic, he's right.

"Since official slavery is illegal, the corporations needed new ways to keep people working for a barely livable wage and Insurance is one of those means. "


^^
This applies to so much more about murica than just healthcare.


"...because our country runs on one thing; Citizens in debt. "

My girlfriend is a nurse and she thinks Brock Lesnar is brilliant.

She's retarded, though.

Yeah dude, I know a few trappers/guides that live in northern Manitoba and they make a killing.

Fishings huuuge in northern manitoba also, In the summer thats all you see is americans buying fishing licences and convoys of them all over town with big ass boats. Fucking guys drive from texas, and alabama and California and stuff, Thats insane!! I guess Catfish must be getting a little old down there.
Anyways keep coming down and catch all the pike you want!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM OUT

@ Vader

You'd be surprised by what Americans can do with guns in Canada. American hunting is a HUGE source of income to Canada and they get weapons accross the border very easily. A BC hunting trip for a Bighorn sheep could net the Guide around $30,000.

With that said, we are talking about Gimli...not sure what kind of big game hunting he was doing.

@ Kittarl

Darwin award candidate...

a couple of years back i split hot black tea fresh from the kettle, straight on to my dick, 3 day in hospital, high as a kite on painkillers. And do you want to know how much it cost me? fuck all !
NHS paid mother fuckers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

^^ no shit ghostboner! cant you see how 831 completes a sentence without "dawg"? defenitely not Nate Diaz...

What an awesome comment. I read it through twice, with special attention to the second-last paragraph. Nice one. If only someone in power had the balls to make something happen, right?

I also liked someone else's comment on how Lesnar was in Gimli, Manitoba, population 5800 - and how that was an accurate representation of socialized healthcare and doctors in Canada, in general.

BTW, what the fuck was Lesnar doing hunting in Canada? Did he have a licence to do so? And whose gun was he using? What about the permit on that gun? Did anybody ask these questions? I know there are only 3 cops in Gimli, but they could have stopped rolling the town drunk long enough to ask these questions, I think.

$8000 to have a baby?!?!

jacking off to internet porn is free my friend...

I also think its amazing how people choose either this side or that side. Think about shit for your fucking self. If you think Beck OR Olberman (sp?) aren't lying to you, your out of reality. You go listen to both of them and then think about things and realize the truth is somewhere in the middle.

After 3 surgeries in Toronto General (not a small Canadian hospital) and 20 surgeries in smallish UMC Hospital in Lubbock Texas (car accident), I can assure you Brock is right on this one. Toronto General was like a trip back 30 years, mint-green paint, 2nd rate care, etc. No comparison.

Overhaul is not the answer. Tweaking is.

Canada healthcare is better if your low income want to get checkups all the time for free etc..

US healthcare has better emergency care, and your fine as long as you have a job etc or pay out of pocket(As I Do).

If US govt. added free clinics everywhere it would be better than Canada in every area. The working class with insurance could keep the "cadillac" plans, and the low income could go to free clinics. If they tied that into schools etc, everyone would come out better. It would create jobs, be much easier on the taxpayer, and everyone would have a choice.

BROCK . . . YOU ARE A JACKASS!! YOU ARE NOW ON A POLITICAL AGENDA! AMERICANS THAT CANNOT AFFORD HEALTHCARE DON'T DESERVE AFFORDABLE INSURANCE??
THE ONLY REASON YOU DIDN'T GET YOUR COLON TAKEN OUT WAS BC DANA STOPPED FUKKIN' YOU IN THE ASS FOR 3 WEEKS!!
NICE WORK DANA, LET'S MAKE THE UFC A POLITICAL STATEMENT . . . DUMBASS!!

There is entirely too much money being passes around the higher ups in the insurance companies and the lobbyist to ever allow socialized health care in America because our country runs on one thing; Citizens in debt. Since official slavery is illegal, the corporations needed new ways to keep people working for a barely livable wage and Insurance is one of those means. The health care fat cats figured out that if they jack up the price of health care with one hand while working closely with health care providers with the other, they can intimidate the lower classes into working shit jobs that they wouldn't normally take under the threat of having no way to recover should they become sick. It's the poor people who are forced to pay back ridiculously high hospital bills/student loans with interest/mortgages that are making all these corporations rich. The threat of going broke due to illness keeps the poor and uneducated going to work at Starbucks/7-11/McDonalds so that they don't lose their insurance.

Want to go to college? Sell your mortal soul to Sallie Mae or work fast food for the rest of your life. Want to have a dependable car to get to your job? Get an auto loan or take the bus and risk getting fired due to undependable transportation(Why do you think they ask on the application?) Want a family? Better get that home loan or raise your kids in a shitty apartment(Better have good credit). Want to take your children to a doctor? You better pay the insurance people or you're going to lose everything! Debt is the new Slavery.

And guys like Brock going out and convincing people whose opinions are easily swayed(especially when their patriotism is being challenged) that socialized health care is terrible, without any kind of evidence to back up his own claim other than his own experience at one clinic. I have news for you Brock; plenty of people are misdiagnosed in American medicine. Plenty of Americans have died needlessly do to a doctor's mistake, even the ones that can afford your health care. And yet, in the face of all the evidence that proves otherwise, people will still cling to the belief that there isn't anything wrong with our system, that the American way is the right way and anyone who tells you opposite is either a commie or a retard. USA #1, everyone else HACK PTOOEY and if you don't love it, leave it!

I don't understand why anyone, ANYONE, would be against a health care system that allowed all American citizens the right to basic health care. If the elite wish to pay for privatized care, then that's their right as well and they shouldn't be forced a government plan if they don't want to. However, I refuse to believe that there is any good reason that we can't follow the example set by other developed countries like Canada and England.

I'd keep typing, but my left arm just went numb....

Hey, is there a link between steroid use and being having an enlarged asshole? I'm not sure, but I think that's the very definition of diverticulitis.

@ Charming Charlie:

Hey, back the fuck off of "Daybreakers" there, son.

"I'd like to thank my sponsors for my health, that's right my sponsors, you hear that Bud Light? Yeah, I thought so. Talk all the shit you want now!"

Kudos to Cagepotato for having the balls/intelligence to acknowledge the seriousness of the healthcare debate in the US; considering a big part of your audience is fine-malt-liquor drinking, Harley-Davidson fantasizing, Daybreakers-watching recent Marine recruits, who may have done inadequate research before forming an opinion.

I just listened to the second video and it seems that the doctors where ever he trains could not figure out what was wrong with him either. Then after missing two -three weeks of training due to illness he decides to go hunting somewhere in Canada. Then blames the Canadian health care system for not knowing what was is wrong with him but he admits his own hospital didn't know either.

I think he just wanted to hold on to Shane's belt for a little longer....I'm just saying if you can't train due to illness the best thing to do is go hunting not to get a second opinion...

Good for Brock being open about his political views, knowing it would send most of the lib media into a hissy fit, making them throw out a bunch of talking points. You quote a fucking NY Times article as a source? GTFO. If I want that shit I'll go to daily kos.

This is crazy, every exact thing that happened to lesnar happened to my dad about 2 years ago now. He started off just not feeling well for a long time, then one day at work his fever went through the roof and his stomach felt like it exploded, He went to the local hospital in the small 6000 people town of flin flon, manitoba and the doctors were dumbfounded for months, even did several stomach surgeries and gave him a colostamy bag, hed get better for a week and fall right back into the horrible pain. Finally, he decided that the doctors in flin flon manitoba are fucking idiots and instead of going to bismark north dakota.... He went to Winnipeg Manitoba which is the major city of our province. Within the first few minutes of my dad being in the MAJOR metropolitan hospital in a big city, the doctor diagnosed him with diverticulosis and right away got him in to surgery to have everything redone right and take the colostomy bag off. He is now 100% in good health.

Brock is just being ignorant and I think hes done to much hunting up here in canada and forgot we have citys too.

You can get a misdiagnosis anywhere, especially in Canada. (lol. Just kidding you hosers).

So he hunts our animals, uses our healthcare and then bitches about? Fuck a Brock Lesnar.

^^hahaha you just wont let that go will you? Im sorry ghost, but I am not Nate Diaz.

GroundFighterMMA Says:
Wed, 01/20/2010 - 13:27

What is the combined weight for the two guys in that video?

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Ego or physical?

@El Famous Burrito - Amen brother.

@CP - You guys really have a point to hammer home on this health care thing don't you? Is your next article going to involve Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid?

@831 Son - So that is why you lost to Guida? Busted ankle. Should have taken more time to rehab. Makes more sense now. Huh, well good luck at 170.

You canucks get all worked up once someone even mentions Canada.

Brock for Prez and Dana as VP.

They would figuratively and literally whip this country into shape. For now we will need to settle for heroes such as Scott Brown.

BTW Canadian health care blows. Don't believe everything Micheal Moore tells you lemmings.

What a moron. As if a small facility in the boonies in Manitoba or Saskatchewan or eastern Ontario is representative of health care in major metropolitan centres. Try jumping in helicopter and going to any of the world class hospitals in Vancouver, Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Toronto, Montreal, Quebec City, etc.

I'll take the Canadian health care system over the US's any day. There's a reason why Canadians live longer, have less infant mortality, and are generally healthier than Americans. But hey, if people like bankruptcies and poor people getting no healthcare, then what are you gonna do...?

wait, so all it took was something Canadian to beat the "unbeatable"?
Were the hell is Tim Hague when you need him.

@J-Dog

$8000 for a birth?

I was just at the hospital in the small town where I live (in British Columbia, Canada) and happened to see a list of charges at admitting for non-canadian residents. Since I was waiting for them to give me my ID bracelet, process me for surgery, I read it over real quick.

It would have cost you $1000, no questions asked, at the hospital in my town.


The American system is a joke and its one of the many downfalls of a ridiculous, ignorant and crooked country.

I sprained my wrist writing this comment, and it cost me $976.52 to get it fixed.

The absolute craziest thing about the whole healthcare debate/mandatory insurance is how backwards the whole system is. Yes, people who can not pay for insurance are further penalized by higher medical costs. You get a bill for $100,000, the hospital expects you to pay $100,000; you have insurance, the hospital will take about $20,000, max, from the insurance company. Guaranteed money, referrals, repeats, willingness to undergo more procedures, hospitals are willing to take less and less money just because you are insured.
I have no problem paying higher taxes for a healthier nation, but I think there are much better, cheaper ways of doing it. Up to me, throw some money at prenatal care and preventative medicine. If you want to reach everyone who needs it, just subsidize healthcare; taxes will pay to insure millions of people who will never use it; free med-school to students who will do ten years of salaried general practice, focusing on mass-clinic work. ehhh

Some of the above comments are even more ridiculous then Brock's. That's great if someone has health insurance and it covers stuff, but what about the 50 million Americans that don't? Try getting layed off and having that shit happen to you, you'd be fucked...and please no one follow up with "well don't get layed off then," because way too many people on here got way too much time on their hands to be employed.

Bull's eye Brock Lesnar! You're totally right, and I'm Canadian

America does have the greatest health care system in the world...if you are rich. Yes, the Mayo clinic is in the US, as are many of the top ranked health facilities in the world, but if any one of us got sick would we able able to go there? No. I'm shocked a guy sponsored by bullets and beef jerky would be so ignorant and ethnocentric.

I've been sitting here for like 15 minutes trying to think of snarky ways to call Dana White fat. I've finally come to the conclusion that there is no punchline: he's just fat. That is all.

What's with all this healthcare debate? Don't you guys watch the 700 club? All you have to do is send a prayer request along with a stack of crisp hundred dollar bills to Pat Robertson and he will heal you on behalf of God. Seriously, I'm not making this up. Pat Robertson has the power to heal people who send him money.

$10 co-pay!

It was cool because my insurance company sent a detailed bill and I was able to see the cost of everything for the ice-cups to cost of the operating room.

I heard Brock Lesnar was healed when he sacrificed a lamb to himself by cutting it up and jerkifying it in a dehydrator. Later that night Brock Lesnar came to himself in a dream and said "Brock Bless You". The next morning his stomach holes were healed and his gut puss had disappeared.

I am Canadian but had ACL surgery in Michigan, with physio and everything it was $78 000 approx. (out patient) Fortunately, I work in Michigan and have coverage. It took me 9 months to have an MRI done on my knee in Canada. Prior to having anything done in Michigan

I honestly don't think the doctors are better or worse but in Canada doctors are capped at about $400 000/year by the government. In the USA it is a business and the more one can bill the more one can earn.

Think about it if you are a doctor in Canada and work you butt off and reach your cap in October are you going to work much in November or Decemeber? Human nature says "no"

just my two cents

PS. Since he "fled" to Bismarck ND, I would assume he was either in Manitoba or Saskatchewan since if you look on a map Bismarch is almost on the border of those two provinces.

@ df42--- HOLY SHIT!! Imagine if you had to pay all that.

@agentsmith: Yeah, straight up. Those STUPID Cancer patients, El Famous Burrito has no time for 'em...

^ correct

I would not do any MMA training if i we had a crappy health care system like you yanks! Unless your a pro and MMA is your job! the injureys, the bills and time off work would just not be worth it!

Get Up And Kill, I think you mean "Rex-I was 7 years old and it happened at school. Nowaday's I would just take my dog sled." Not 831-" "

@ 831

Thank God for insurance!

@ Rex

I was 7 years old and it happened at school. Nowaday's I would just take my dog sled.

@J-Dog: I had my son in 2004: Didn't cost me a dime. I can;t imagine having to pay an $8000 bill every time I had a kid. Lesnar is lucky that the facility even saw him in Canada. If he were a Canadian in the States, they would have either denied him because he didn't have insurance or he would have stuck with a huge bill. If he doesn't pay the taxes to support it, he shouldn't bitch about our system.

I am with GetUpAndKill: The system isn't perfect and a two-tier system would porbably speed things up for those who could afford it, but to me, and to most Canadians, healthcare is a basic human right and everyone should have access to quality care, regardless of their income.

I wonder if Lesnar dares to compare the differences between the Canadian and American public education systems. That's a comparison he won't win....

PoliticalPotato

Brock is a fighter. Think about how qualified he is to speak on national political issues. (the same goes for actors and musicians).

@ El Famous Burrito:

So whenever someone requires medical attention it's because they did something stupid?

Eating yourself to a heart attack at 35 is a completely preventable death, but if you fat donut-fucks want to do it, I'm not paying to support you.

Riding your skateboard off the stairwell of a parking garage is a completely avoidable medical expense, but if your inbred cunt-spawn wants to do it, you can pay for it yourself.

I'll take car of myself, thank you very much. You can keep your money, let me keep mine.

SO he is diagnosed in the States ... he goes hunting in the middle of no where in Canada ... rushes to the hospital in the middle of nowhere .. damn's all Canadian health care ... then rushes to an American hospital ... and praises that they saved his life ...

ARE YOU SERIOUS !

Too bad no one got Brock's opinion on Canada's gun and gay marriage laws while we're at it, that could have been some funny shit.

@ J-Dog

Thanks for replying. Thats crazy! I suppose if you are in the wealthy minority than the subject wouldn't matter. Survival of the fittest doesn't apply anymore to the modern age...though the Canadian system has faults, it atleast provides reasonable service to everybody.

It makes you wonder if every time Lesnar opens his mouth, DW holds his breath and waits for something utterly retarded to spill out?

The town in Canada that Brock was treated in is now rumored to be Gimli, Manitoba... population: 5800. So yeah, totally representative of Canadian health care, and all socialized medicine in general.

@Hulk Smash
Eat your heart out :)

@GFMMA
Brock-270, DW-230 and Brocks pinch-1= 501.

For all the healthcare talk I am done, say your prayers, (s)excercise and take your vitamins(....) no matter where you live.

GetUpAndKill---- I Broke my ankle in training last August and was diagnosed with a Bimalleolar fracture and a ruptured tendon. I had a buddy drive me to the ER so I could avoid all ambulance costs. I waited a couple hours, payed like a 50 dollar co-pay to get xrays, then I had surgery a week later once swelling went down and had 7 screws and a metal plate put in. The surgery bill was around 16 grand but my insurance covered most and all I had to pay was 300 bucks for that (it was an outpatient procedure which cut down on hostpital costs too). After about 4 months I got the cast off and started physical therapy which my insurance also pretty much covers so I payed about 275 for around 11 sessions. All in all, about 900 dollars for everything (including a walking boot, crutches).

Brock would like to thank his sponsor Jack Links jerky for curing his disease.

GetUp&Kill>>You take the ambulance for a broken leg? Wuss.

To be honest, i couldn't answer the question properly. I have health insurance, and frankly, i don't pay attention to the paperwork passed back and forth between doctors and insurance companies here. Everything is inflated. While i was enlisted, i wasn't even involved in the billing paperwork--out of sight, out of mind. One point that shouldn't be overlooked is that anyone who shows up in an ER in the US is cared for, whether they can pay for it or not.

We DO NEED REFORM. On that, at least, Brock is correct. But the US is demonstrably in bad shape in the health care sector, mostly due to spending most of our dollars on administration.

Now, the Dems had a chance to push through some truly revolutionary change in health care, damn near a year to get it done, and they failed. They managed to stab themselves in the face when they were not just in a position of power, but unstoppably dominating the legislative and executive branches of the government. Had they been motivated, they could have proposed and passed a single-payer system, or an outright communist system, if they'd wanted to, and Faux News would have only been able to wring their hands and whine.

As a result of eleven months of negotiations, horse trading, circle jerking, mistress banging, intern diddling, and general around-fuckery, we have proposals that will do next to nothing to reduce administrative costs, help health care professionals, or offer coverage to all. At this point, i wonder what the fuck was the goddamn point, you know?

But fuck Brock. He's healthy again, i hope someone makes him bleed his own blood.

Goat, that plan would probably eliminate/cure homosexuality altogether. Great success!!

Stopped listening when the asshole mentioned "Obama". That's just the last guy on earth I wanna hear talk about anything political...

I don't know the answers, but it cost me $8000 out of pocket for my wife to have a baby (my part after insurance), and I pay more for insurance per month than I do for my mortgage. Shit's not cheap. And then they denied an RSV vaccination for my preemie that the doctors said was necessary (and $1200), but the insurance company didn't agree it was necessary so they wouldn't pay for it.

I paid the same for our 2nd baby the following year (max out of pocket). It damn near put us in the poor house to have to pay that much cash in such a short period on medical bills. No more babies for us!

Good for you guys to point out the absurdity of Lesnar's comparison. No one needs Brock Lesnar's political views, as if they're not apparent any time he says or does anything. Good thing for Lesnar is that he's just so damn easy to hate, he'll never stop selling... maybe that's the GOP's plan, too.

You have to pay for health care..?! Crazy... Whats next, paying for education..?

Wasn't it Lesnar's super human immune system that eventually healed his ailing body? Maybe we should reform to hold Lesnar in a medical cell for the remainder of his life, continuously draining the blood from his body and dumping it in our nation's water supply. Our necks and homophobia would increase in size by 15%.

I should have known cage potato was made up of a bunch of lib hippy bitches. I should have to pay for someone elses healthcare. And I should also pay their fucking mortgage when they buy a house they can't afford while the rest of us have to rent.

How can it be worse than the NHS? Where as far as I'm aware, all the doctors are constantly being sued, despite never treating anyone because of the waiting periods, and they're mostly illegal immigrants who molest children. At least that's what it says in the Sun...

Hey Brock, Arsenio Hall called and wants his Flat Top back.

On the issue, I have a question:

What would it cost you Yanks if you broke your leg in the US? Add up the ambulance ride, hospital time, physio etc. and give me a reasonable estimate.

What is the combined weight for the two guys in that video?

Thanks for the T-shirts CP.