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More Questionable Numbers From Affliction?

The big question we’ve been waiting to hear an answer to this week is, what of Affliction’s pay-per-view numbers? VP Tom Atencio claimed they did “well over” 100,000 buys. He also said, in the post-fight press conference, that he’d be releasing the numbers on Thursday or Friday of this week. And yet, so far nothing official. Subscribers to Dave Meltzer’s “Wrestling Observer” relayed the following tidbit from the latest issue via the Sherdog forums:

“As far as the numbers went, the big number everyone is looking for is the Affliction PPV number. Based on independent estimates we’ve heard, the number has been estimated at between 50,000 and 85,000 buys. Atencio claimed the number as being higher, saying it topped 100,000, although at press time, any numbers could only be considered rough estimates. Atencio told us that since UFC doesn’t release numbers, he’s not going to either (I know, after saying it was more than 100,000). Keep in mind that Pride claimed 150,000 buys for its first U.S. PPV in 2006, and the real number ended up being 40,000 (we know that because Nevada taxes on PPV revenue so you can get a real number; California does not so getting real numbers will be more difficult).”

“Independent estimates” is a vague phrase to begin with, but with all this speculation floating around the only way for Affliction to silence it is to release the numbers. If they don’t, we’ll have to assume that they probably didn’t hit that golden number of 100,000 buys as Atencio claimed.

It’s a big week for Affliction and dubious numbers. Next you’re going to tell me that the Tim Sylvia Signature Series Affliction t-shirt doesn’t really cost $58. No, that one checks out actually. At least there are some things you can still depend on.

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John- July 25, 2008 at 5:14 am
I know it's all about the fights but shit was this production ever badly put together. The sound and video guys in charge of cutting between scenes and controlling audio should be fired, and the announcers sucked balls! It was like watching UFC 1 all over again. The announcers kept repeating things over and over because the video guys were screwing up, or they didn't know when the cut to another scene would be. Audio levels were totally off at every switchup. Just piss poor work by inexperienced people. Good fights though.
UFC fan- July 24, 2008 at 11:12 pm
"who gives a ass how much they sold man its abut the fights not about the sales stupid americans trying to compare shit, Face it affliction dominated ufc"

Brilliant, way to represent-----represent the STUPID group!

Hey dumbass if Affliction didnt even break 100,000 buys then they didnt dominate anything but their own pocketbook.
yeah us stupid Americans always trying to compare shit.......funny I guess thats why we aren't some 3rd world backwater piece of shit like where your from huh? stupid loser with your stupid loser talk.
Steve- July 24, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Ben, you used to write for the IFL, how is this any worse than the IFL would announce a crowd of like 9,329 when the paid total was like 8 tickets sold for $160 gate and one t-shirt sold?
slapjaw ackrite- July 24, 2008 at 3:28 pm
being an anglo-american (english/us halfbreed) and well traveled around the world, i can honestly say that a lot of people do look up to america and think its cool. the very same people, however, often hate individual americans because we tend to be cocky, obnoxious, loud, im better cause im yank bastards.

of course, not all of us, but its the assholes that leave the more prominent impressions.

and the fucin man is right too, accents get tail.
the fucin man- July 24, 2008 at 2:34 pm
i dont want to be an american that way when i go thier all the yank slags want to suck my pork sword and sit on my face while they pedal my ears
tricky dicky- July 24, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Who gives a shit if they don't want to release their numbers. I'm not sure they are concerned if the people in internet land think their show was a flop. I thought it was fantastic.

Changing gears.. I would put tom at about 5 foot 9 or 10. Me and my twin brother took a pic with him and I am 5 foot 11 and only marginally taller than him..

Either way, I am glad to see them moving ahead with more shows.
mknightshamalamadingdong- July 24, 2008 at 1:42 pm
wheres andre?
Plain old Kevin- July 24, 2008 at 12:56 pm
I did enjoy the Affliction fights more, but I watched the UFC that night. I knew I could see all of the Affliction fights online and skip the bullshit spectacle.

Everybody wants to be an American that's why they try to bash us. The term "Americanization" is used for a reason.
BigBrown- July 24, 2008 at 11:13 am
sfrhui.......get off this "stupid American" site with your bullshit comments if you don't like it.
sfrhui- July 24, 2008 at 9:17 am
who gives a ass how much they sold man its abut the fights not about the sales stupid americans trying to compare shit, Face it affliction dominated ufc
MrBrutal- July 24, 2008 at 8:08 am
Tim Sylvia is 6 foot 8, but he usually slouches. Fedor is like 6 2. The small guy is prob around 5'10''
Anonymous- July 24, 2008 at 6:22 am
When I first saw the picture I thought the dude all the way to the right was Dane Cook.
The Bloc- July 24, 2008 at 12:54 am
It's obvious they didnt make as much as they were planning to or the numbers would be out already. The question isnt if they lost money or not, now the question is how much they lost.
KG- July 24, 2008 at 12:30 am
Atencio looks like Webster compared to those guys.. either hes really small or those dudes are huge
TrouserSnout- July 24, 2008 at 12:06 am
Holy Sh*t......Randy Couture's got an Affliction T-Shirt...