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Nate Diaz Manager Mike Kogan Won’t Stop, Can’t Stop, Making His Client Look Bad


(Mike Kogan’s profile pic courtesy of FindABearTonight.xxx)

At this point, we all know that Nate Diaz has been suspended and fined for calling Bryan Caraway a “Fag” through his twitter account. Other than deleting and re-wording his original tweet, Diaz has been silent on the matter since originally criticizing Caraway for accepting the Submission of the Night bonus cash that was originally designated for Pat Healy until “Bam Bam” tested positive for marijuana metabolites after choking out Jim Miller at UFC 159.

Diaz’s new manager Mike Kogan, however, just can’t seem to shut up about it all — and he’s making his client look even worse in the process.

Immediately following Diaz’s tweet, Kogan issued a ridiculous justification to MMA Junkie that showcased a stunning lack of self-awareness.

Guess what? The word faggot, at least in Northern California, and where Nate is from, means bitch,” Kogan said. “It means you’re a little punk. It has nothing to do with homosexuals at all. So when Nate made the comment that he made, he didn’t make it in reference to homosexuals or calling Caraway a homosexual. He just said it was a bitch move.”

Separating the word “faggot” from its many historical applications for insulting gay people, as Kogan tried to do, is a stretch. But let’s say that it was possible to separate them. We’d still be left with Diaz publicly calling someone a “bitch” — another word commonly used to insinuate homosexuality, and far more often used to insult women — and Kogan defending the usage of that word just as strongly.

Even if we recognize the obvious fact that Diaz’s tweet was insensitive, few people would crucify him simply for using those slurs in a moment of frustration. All we’re asking for is a little reflection, and some recognition of the fact that, though you may not be a bad dude deep down, that was an insensitive thing to say and a sincere apology is warranted. Or, again, to at least shut up about it all.

Kogan seems far too dense to do that. The manager was recently on MMA Fighting’s MMA Hour and went out of his way to insist that both he and Diaz are offering no apologies.

“Nate doesn’t feel remorse for what he said,” Kogan told MMA Fighting.”I don’t feel remorse for what he said. I don’t feel remorse for defending what [Diaz] said or elaborating on what he said. Because it was not a homophobic statement. It was not intended to offend homosexuals. We weren’t even talking about homosexuals. One can debate the multiple uses of this term. We can sit here and debate in the English language, there’s a lot of words that mean a lot of different things, but whatever. As it is, it wasn’t intended to be used the way people tried to twist the way it was being used. So therefore, what does he have to feel bad about?”

Yes, Mike, we can sit here and “debate in the English language,” which makes sense because that’s the language we’re using, and it is true that there are “lots of words that mean a lot of different things.” None of that seems relevant in any way to the discussion at hand, though.

“If we would have made a homophobic statement, or a statement that was clearly intended to insult homosexuals, that’s one thing,” Kogan went on, unbelievably.

“You come out and say, ‘Hey, you know what, I’m really sorry it hurt people. We didn’t mean to do that.’ But to me, and this is just my philosophy, and I’m sure it’s going to be disagreed with by many people. This is how I think, and how Nate thinks. The mere fact that there is a protocol to deal with these crisis situation implies its lack of sincerity.”

Like all of Kogan’s statements, the above one deserves a second read-through, if only for how unintentionally funny it is. Kogan actually says that, if you say something that is “clearly intended to insult homosexuals,” then you should go out and disingenuously apologize for hurting people, lying by saying, “we didn’t mean to do that.”

Kogan misses a couple key points — if you hurt people, it doesn’t matter much if you intended to or not. Also, no one is asking for false apologies from Diaz or, now, Kogan.

Mike, you aren’t waging some continued war against b.s. What folks are hoping for is some recognition that, intended or not, Diaz insulted and hurt people, and some basic consideration of that fact.

You know, because he’s an adult and all.

From his public statements thus far, it seems unlikely that Kogan will change his mind about the need for reflection and apologies. For the sake of Diaz’s career, however, we hope that he changes his approach to managing the public relations of his clients.

Maybe we’re judging Kogan prematurely. Mike, if you want to come here and, “in the English language,” actually discuss these issues with folks willing to ask you serious questions, we’ll welcome it.

If you’re interested in saying something different or better explaining yourself and your client, we’re interested. Because, lashing out at others and not taking responsibility for hurtful actions is kind of a bitch move, you know?

- Elias Cepeda

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dipsetkilla316- May 22, 2013 at 8:23 am
He seemed to use the word retarted a bit much, probably because he just learned it that day and decided to use it in a sentence. This guy has the Intelligence, of his clients the Diaz brotarts. 3 minutes in to the interview with ariel I understood y he is the daiz bros manager, it's prob easy for them to communicate with each other. Nate- dis some bushit I didn't mean to use the word fag in a derogatory way, and now every ones mad at me that's fucking gay. Kogan- that's fucking retarted duuuuuuuu. Nick- Stockton 209 Cesar Gracie jujitsu war mma wat wat wat wat wat.
mookiestick- May 22, 2013 at 8:23 am
Mike Kogan looks a lot like Joe Rogan
Thumblaster- May 22, 2013 at 3:53 am
@ mr mis NEVER call a short faggot a nicket
Mr_Misanthropy- May 22, 2013 at 1:23 am
A faggot, in the meaning of "bundle", is an archaic English unit applied to bundles of certain items. Alternate spellings in Early Modern English include fagate, faget, fagett, faggott, fagot, fagatt, fagott, ffagott, fgt and faggat.[1]
Sometimes called a short faggot, a faggot of sticks equals a bundle of wood sticks or billets that is three feet (0.914 metres) in length and two feet (0.609 metres) in circumference.[1] The measurement was standardised in ordinances by 1474.[1] A small short faggot was also called a nicket.[2] A brush-faggot (sometimes shortened to brush) was a bundle of similar size made of brushwood.[3]
A long faggot of sticks equals a bundle larger than three feet long. In a book on slang used at Winchester College, fire-dogs were fire-baskets which could hold long faggots, and half-faggots were smaller baskets which could only hold a short faggot, and were later converted for use with coal.[4] A long faggot was also called a kidd faggot.[5] A fascine (or bavin[3]) is a type of long faggot which is approximately 13 to 20 feet long and 8 to 9 inches in diameter and used to maintain earthworks such as trenches.[6][7][8]
A faggot was also a unit of weight used to measure iron or steel rods or bars totaling 120 pounds (54.43 kilograms).

How many faggots have you packed in your life?
Mr_Misanthropy- May 21, 2013 at 10:33 pm
OH MY FAWKING GAHD who wrote this shit? It's so gay it makes me want to go get my ass crack waxed.
Mr_Misanthropy- May 22, 2013 at 1:20 am
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Thumblaster- May 21, 2013 at 7:11 pm
Why is calling someone a ciggarette such a big deal, jesus , these anti-tobacco people are sensitive
soultaker- May 21, 2013 at 5:53 pm
This is VERY easy. Diaz is an EMPLOYEE. There is a code of conduct from the UFC. It DOESN'T MATTER WHAT HE MEANT. We all know that we could not go to our job and use the word faggot. We would be fired. If you do not believe me, try it. I dare you. The Diaz brothers think they are in their own world.. they are not. They are in the UFC world and they sign the checks. Kogan's job is to make the Diaz brothers aware of this. He is not doing his job and Diaz brothers will lose in the end. Its not the right time to start a crusade and bring even more attention to your stupidity.
danomite- May 21, 2013 at 4:40 pm
I think Mike Kogan and the Alliance for Changing the Meaning of Words in the comments below are missing the point here. It doesn't matter if Mike Kogan, the person, believes the word faggot can be used in a non-bigoted way. Mike Kogan, the manager, needs to realize that his FUCKING JOB is to do what is in the best interest of Nate Diaz's career, and getting Nate canned from the UFC just because he wants to stand up for his right to call people faggots is not in anyone's best interest.

If that doesn't make sense to Mike, let me put it this way. As manager, I assume he gets a percentage of Nate's salary. Well, 10% of whatever Nate makes in the UFC is a whole hell of a lot more than 10% of what he would make in Xtreme Fighting Legacy Challenger or whatever regional show he'd be fighting in if he gets fired. So if Mike Kogan likes money, he should probably shut the fuck up.
algiersheadkick504- May 21, 2013 at 4:38 pm
He should just change his name to world peace and will be forgiven
SethF- May 21, 2013 at 4:07 pm
BREAKING: Bjorn Rebney admits he paid off Mike Kogan before that interview, because Bellator has been flirting with the idea of a 163 lb. tournament next season.
Lex Talionis- May 21, 2013 at 3:58 pm
Drop your last couple fights, prove you can't compete at 155 or 170 so you ask for your very own weight class, spit in Dana's face and refuse to apologize. LOL later homie, the good news is you can say whatever the fuck you want when you fight for bellator
El Guapo- May 21, 2013 at 1:47 pm
Nate doesn't HAVE to apologize for shit. It is America, after all, dagnabbit. But if he wants to keep fighting for the UFC he'd be wise to do so. It's not rocket surgery, you guys.
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ReX13- May 21, 2013 at 12:38 pm
the bitchassery is strong with this one.
dranokills- May 21, 2013 at 12:32 pm
I think having to apologize for using a WORD is the dumbest,gayest, bitchassness, candy-ass, fake-ass, pussy-whipped, rim jobbing, teabagging, politically correct, BAG-O-DICKS I have ever heard of!
teep- May 21, 2013 at 12:20 pm
"All we are looking for is a little reflection"... you are so funny Elias! Diaz made that statement several fat blunts ago, he doesn't even remember what he said or why he said it.
algiersheadkick504- May 21, 2013 at 12:10 pm
I'm sorry the gay community is so damn sensitive
El Guapo- May 21, 2013 at 12:08 pm
Nate and his manager are right that calling a straight guy a faggot has nothing to do with sexual orientation. But they're wrong to to assume it's not offensive to some people.
And they're as wrong as can be to keep the drama going. Nate should've just apologized and been done with it, even if he isn't sincere. It's a touchy subject that people will never agree on. That's just the way it is. So to keep the debate going and risking his job/paycheck isn't very smart, homie.
soultaker- May 21, 2013 at 12:08 pm
This is what happens when your uneducated and there is a relationship with the business world. The Diaz brothers are fighters and their management is supposed to be the bridge between the two worlds. Unfortunately, they have surrounded themselves with like minded people. I live near Stockton and there are a lot of posers. They think they are smart and streetwise but they are idiots. Too bad the Diaz brothers didn't surround themselves with professionals who could have let them fight and took care of the business side. They will pay the price when they can no longer fight and look back at this train wreck.
anderson wanderlei paulo thiago alves silva- May 21, 2013 at 11:25 am
Where I'm from the word slut means a lady who says yes a lot
DaltonSwayze- May 21, 2013 at 11:23 am
Kogan is absolutely correct in principle, but dead wrong so far as Nate's future earnings are concerned. The word "fag"has been applied to plenty of different groups over the years, and while it is still used as a slur toward homosexuals, it's primary function is absolutely not homophobic in nature.

I'm absolutely in favor of taking the word back from the bigots
LoneWolf- May 21, 2013 at 11:15 am
Wow, people are so fucking stupid. "butthurtness" What are you 12? Being from the "bay" or any other place, doesn't mean shit when you say things online. People are from all over the world and don't understand your or this idiot managers comments. The worlds a big place homie, check out a map sometime.

"lilricky707- May 21, 2013 at 10:48 am
Im from the bay and the word faggot means bitch when your refering to a straight man.. Stop with the butthurtness already"
lilricky707- May 21, 2013 at 1:35 pm
and fyi the bay is northern california
lilricky707- May 21, 2013 at 1:33 pm
try 20. lol shut your loser ass up dude.

im defend the managers comment and if this were England then the word wouldn't be offensive to gays so yes depending on your region the word has different meanings
lilricky707- May 21, 2013 at 10:48 am
Im from the bay and the word faggot means bitch when your refering to a straight man.. Stop with the butthurtness already
Deadpanda- May 21, 2013 at 10:38 am
Louis CK says, "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fcja4WFFzDw"

And on that note: stop being such faggots and get over it. Diaz paid the fine & a bunch of people cried over the way some stupid thuglife kid from Stockton expressed himself, big deal, who died, what was the damage?. Lets stack this storm of words up next to the tornado in OK & see what killed more people & destroyed more lives.

Only someone with a weak mind & low sense of self is hurt by an intangible sound living inside of your own head. The world has bigger problems than how some people feel about something they can rise above with rational internal reasoning.

... flame on
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