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Newsflash: Judo Not as Exciting as MMA, Even in the Olympics

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When we wrote about American judoka Ryan Reser and his plea for more love from MMA fans, some of you responded with disappointment that there wasn’t a lot of judo on tap during NBC’s Olympic coverage. Here’s a clip courtesy of Korean TV and, no matter what Reser says, I don’t see it catching on the way MMA did. Maybe it’s just me, but the most exciting part of these clips is the announcers losing their minds during the brief bursts of action. Anyway, you people said you wanted to see it. So soak it up, jerks.

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will- September 21, 2008 at 3:14 am
Well my thoughts are simple. Ya think the best guys in the world are not going to have a very close technical fight? You think they are just going to huck each other around? Most people that think that don't have a CLUE about fighting of any type. Good MMA is technical too but its the mismatches that people like to watch. . .
I've seen to many fat out of shape low level MMA matches in the last year with guys with muffin tops hanging over their shorts gassing in 3 minutes. Those fights totally suck and are more representative of the sport than the glory leagues. My bet is the dudes making the derogatory comments are typical low level MMA crowd members. Look around next MMA match you are at and snicker to yourself on this comment, you will understand my comments completely. Put any of those guys with a good judo guy of any level and its a 20 second fight. . . long enough for the judo guy to chase him down and either throw him on his head, twist his arm off,or choke the crap out of him. Try going to a judo club for a few nights and see how fit and how tough you have to be. If a Judo guy could punch look out. . .
kicksboxes- August 18, 2008 at 12:52 am
What? No tae kwon do? And where's the wushu? Gimme the WUSHU!!!
Xamot- August 15, 2008 at 7:00 pm
I like the irony of how MMA fans who enjoy watching men roll around and ass hug each other are commenting on how "gay" judo is.

Here's a tip frat fighters, you lose the right to use the word "gay" when the first time you mount another man.
Bootylam!- August 14, 2008 at 7:21 pm
"I'd wear short sleeves, THEN what Bitches?" FUNNY! Like I said, grabbing clothes and rearranging feet sucks. Forgot about the slapping, which makes it suck harder.
Dudeman- August 14, 2008 at 5:50 pm
I admit i'm ignorant of judo. Is it just take downs? Are there no submissions?
again.....admitting ignorance here....
Marcel- August 14, 2008 at 2:13 pm
dude, that throw at the end of the second video, on white gi's head was truly freakin awesome.
skidding- August 14, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Modern Olympic Judo is a point based sport, meaning you're not supposed to watch it with a combat perspective. Also, Judo and Ju jitsu used to be the same thing. However, the sport of Judo branched off to make it a spectator sport. Because people found it boring to watch groundwork, they kept on modifying it to try to enforce contestants to show more exciting aspects of grappling, which are takedowns from the standing position. The judo you see on tv is a game, meant to be watched after you understand the rules and how you win and accrue points. That is why you won't see people getting pwned with soccer kicks to the heads in turtle position.

Watching high level Judo is boring and gay if you aren't familiar with the different levels of judo. The boring aspects are a result of both contestants possessing a high level of skills. Their gi grabbing looks random and spastic. If you watch low level Judo, you don't have any of that chaotic gi grabbing because people haven't mastered throws. In Olympic Judo, if you let your opponent get his grip of choice on you, he'll throw you with a move he's practiced a thousand of times every week since he/she was 7.
Vrax- August 14, 2008 at 12:56 pm
If anyone gives a shit is the best site around.

"just so you know" is quite right, Judo became popular after Kano's team decimated the Japanese Jujutsu team, winning the right to train the Japanese police forces. The spelling "Jitsu" is from the Portuguese spelling of "Jiu-jitsu" and is not correct when referring to Japanese traditional arts.

Thanks for posting these clips. Sure Judo competition is not as exciting as MMA, but it beats the fuck out of synchronized diving.
yourmothersays- August 14, 2008 at 12:28 pm
that shit sucks ass - id wear short sleeves THEN what bitches - how fuckin gay does it get
Clyde- August 14, 2008 at 10:41 am
The thing I don't like about judo is that ippon is the end of it. One clean throw or submission and it's over. I know you can always make the argument that if someone has submitted it's the end of a fight but I think it would be a better system if you either had to go for the full 5 minutes and whoever is ahead on points is the winner, or you fight to say 3 or 5 points so you can play a bit more freely. Like how in MMA you can loose a round and come back to win a fight, you could concede a point when going for something and it wouldn't be the end of it.

Equally, I think you should have longer on the ground because it's really annoying that when someone tries a throw like kata garuma and fails, the other guy is in a great place to choke or armbar him but isn't given the time to try, the refs just separate them and restart.
SiDeBuRnZ- August 14, 2008 at 8:39 am
this is like having an MMA match end after Karo lands a takedown....
Krazy Kracker- August 14, 2008 at 6:49 am
Reminds me of soccer announcers... mmmmGOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAALLLLL!!!!!!
Thank you so much Ryan's lover Pablo- August 14, 2008 at 3:54 am
You really enlightened me with that novel of a post, with that in mind, Judo still sucks Big Foot's dick =)
Ryan's_Lover_Pablo- August 14, 2008 at 3:37 am
What the fuck do you nitwits think BJJ is? Judo.

Mitsuyo Maeda/Conde Koma brought Judo to Brazil and among those he taught was Helio Gracie and his brothers.

Judo's creator, Kano, took many jujutsu styles such as Kit?-ry? and Y?shin-ry? and created the Gokyo. Gracie took judo that he learned and kept some aspects and threw out others in the same way..
Note that there are many techniques and locks that Maeda taught Gracie that were later banned in Judo which has changed enormously as it became the international sport it is now.
Over the past 5-6 decades, the sport judo aspect has made it such that its become a sport which has less and less newaza ground fighting. That doesnt mean that it doesnt exist or isnt taught. (while some methods havent been taught for decades)

In Judo competition, the only legal joint techniques are arm locks which still means about 30 grappling techniques but most real dojos will show also the non-sport judo variations as well.

At the time Maeda taught in south america, there was a very popular branch of Kodokan Judo practiced at kosen schools in Japan whose training is famous for the extra focus given grappling and wrestling techniques. It is called "newaza Judo or Kosen Judo."
Just like BJJ now, Kosen judo put much less emphasison standing projections while sport judo went the other way.

So mr big shot MMA dude who swears by the americana let me remind you that the real name of it in judo is Ude-garami. Gracie nuthuggers speak in reverant terms of the Kimura which when it was taught to Helio and Carlos was known as Gyaku ude-garami and Omoplata is Ashi-garami. Rear naked choke? In Jujutsu and Judo it is known as the Hadaka Jime. The armlock everyone goes gaga for? Its Juji-gatame

You like those moves?
Never forget where ALL of BJJ you love comes from.
Same art form, different branches and specialties.

Those who call judo incomplete are the same narrow minded nitwits as those who call BBJ or newaza judo gay grappling. Their knowledge of this school of martial arts was from the 2-3 moves they seen in an MMA fight and they decided that these were good and the rest they dont know sucks.
Thank god those assholes dont actually anything but wack off to pictures from the cast of the UFC reality shows.
just so you know...- August 14, 2008 at 3:24 am
Zak - Judo doesn't have an "original 'samurai' form". Samurai's were trained in traditional Jiu Jitsu. Judo was an off-shoot of Jitsu that came a lot later. I believe Judo came about in the late 19th Century. Some time after the 1870's.

Look into a guy named Jigoro Kano if you're interested.
none- August 14, 2008 at 2:18 am
Just a bunch damn gi grabbing
KneeToTheFace- August 14, 2008 at 2:00 am
ADCC is a million times more competitive than this is.

The simple fact that these guys have minimal ground ability makes watching this as an Olympic sport extremely painful. I agree, there are some nice looking ippons but in general these guys don' pull off shit. It's like a 90% failure rate, and when one or the other turtles up, they both just stand up instead of grappling, which is the natural course of a fight like this.

Shinya Aoki would devastate these guys in a grappling match. Sure, they might be better at a point-based "judo" than him, but if somebody turtled up like that after a single failed throw, a true grappler would just take the back and try to work a submission.

All that said, there is of course technical merit to what these guys pull off, but the practicality of it is questionable at best. It definitely requires precision and quickness, it's just so incomplete.
Beat- August 14, 2008 at 12:43 am
Like ADCC is really a mile a minute action. The technical side will always be under appreciated, but the hardcore JOO-JITSU audience would definitely appreciate it.
j- August 14, 2008 at 12:18 am
reminds me of elementary school.

"dont touch me"
'dont touch me"
"dont touch me!"
Than- August 13, 2008 at 11:51 pm
The problem with high level (Olympic or any blackbelt) Judo OR BJJ is that when the two opponents are very good its a slow technical match that looks very boring to the untrained eye. If you ever have gone to a BJJ competition, watch the white and blue belts, then watch the black belts. The black belts seam like they are not doing much of anything because they are so tactical. Basically for casual fans low level BJJ or Judo is more exciting than high level BJJ or Judo.
zak- August 13, 2008 at 11:09 pm
Judo is freaking sweet. Yeah there might be down time periods but I am amazed at how they takedown people. It is also cool to see it in its original 'samurai' form
Big Mike- August 13, 2008 at 10:55 pm
Seems like the white dude is more concerned with making sure his shirt stays tucked in his belt then winning a fight.
MMANewbExpert- August 13, 2008 at 9:56 pm
This reminds me of my nights with my wife. I keep grabbing at her clothes and she keeps smacking my hands away. If I can get a good grip on her and pull something off then I win and she has to have sex with me. If I can't then I go to sleep a loser.
tb- August 13, 2008 at 9:39 pm
I actually enjoyed those clips.

Good job.... for once.
Cliff Huxtable- August 13, 2008 at 9:32 pm