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The NSAC Hardly Even Had to Think About Jon Jones’ Appeal

(Jon’s first mistake was not refusing to answer Mazzagatti’s questions without an attorney present.)

When Jon Jones explained the basis of his appeal to the Nevada State Athletic Commission in the mysterious case of the 12-to-6 elbow strikes, it seemed like he had cause enough to warrant a thorough discussion about what should have been done when a deaf fighter can’t continue due to a shoulder injury, and yet can’t immediately communicate this to the referee.  Turns out we were wrong, because the NSAC refused to rule on Jones’ appeal on the grounds that they don’t overturn decisions.  Unless somebody was on drugs.

This means the loss will stay on Jones’ previously perfect record, and apparently we won’t even have the conversation about whether Mazzagatti should have brought a translator into the cage to find out whether the illegal strikes were really the cause of Matt Hamill‘s inability to continue.  Not that the NSAC’s decision should surprise anyone.  This is the same commission who turned down Anthony Johnson‘s eye-poke appeal (also on Mazzagatti’s watch) due to "lack of remedy."

Sorry, "Bones."  If you can show that Hamill may have been smoking weed before the bout, then give the NSAC a call.  Otherwise, best to move on.

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XxStifflerxX- December 24, 2009 at 12:39 am
Cool! Thanks for the info!
UFC fan- December 23, 2009 at 8:44 pm
knuckles you are a fucking retard. even christmas can't save you from being one.

stiffler, you need to watch more, and read about, MMA, especially UFC.
glancing elbows, even throwing an elbow at a standing opponent is ok.
using your elbow on a downed opponent, who has a solid surface underneath them in a straightdown motion or 12 to 6 motion is illegal because of the crushing power you can deliver. the head has nowhere DOWN to go, thus all the force of these blows do more than cut ,they crack, break or crush.
It is stupid to be ok with this, because no matter how much a head-gina looks nasty and really bad, it is not life threatening.
However having your skull cracked and your brains scrambled is not a thing you want to do to someone unless you plan on killing them.
The fact "stupid nigger" Jones doesn't know the rules or understand common sense, doesn't mean it is any less dangerous.
All these morons who are up in arms that Jones got DQ'd for this, and just don't understand how it could happen, and how great he is are fools. I think they should take a shot or 2 in the same position and see if their already addled brain can figure out how bad it really is.
I think Jones should never be given a license to fight again, he is a menace, and I have no tolerance for his kind.
robthom- December 23, 2009 at 4:47 pm
@ "macreadysshack"
You thought you where the only "Thing" fan!

My brother what have they done!!!!

BTW: RIP our brother Dan, he just passed a few days ago after a very sickly existence.
He will always be a precious singularity!

XxStifflerxX- December 23, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Why where the elbows illegal? Like what made those elbows illegal. Since i usually see other fighters use their elbows. Like Tito Ortiz does in his ground and pound. Can someone explain? Plz?

buda1320- December 23, 2009 at 1:53 pm
"bones" has gotten away with more than one illegal blow in the octagon. glad he did the douchey thing and filed and lost and i laughed and he lost and his people are all "uuhh" and he's all "oh" and good.
knucklesamitch- December 23, 2009 at 12:24 pm
If you go back and watch the post fight interview, Hamill tells Rogan that he couldn't continue because of the shoulder...The idea that this fight wasn't at the very least considered a 'No Contest' is BS. There is no way in hell you can have Hamill stating in the post fight interview that his shoulder caused him to not be able to continue, yet Mazzagatti stopped the fight for illegal elbows.
Da Spied Her- December 23, 2009 at 12:24 pm
I guess Mother Jones isn't as powerful as Mother Penn.
macreadysshack- December 23, 2009 at 12:19 pm
@ robthom: Thanks for the love, bro (barely any homo). Were you referring to my screen name? Is it possible that there's another 'The Thing' fan out there? Macready: I just want to go up to my shack and get drunk.
clown_shoes- December 23, 2009 at 12:04 pm
Jones admitted afterward that part of the reason he threw those elbows was because he didn't really know the rules.

Seriously? I like to watch Jones fight and everything but what a complete fuck up.
UFC fan- December 23, 2009 at 11:59 am
Well I hate to say I said so....but I fucking said so.
And BEN I told you I was right, and you were backing a fucked horse, but noooooo you kept on putting up posts about how shocked you were, I gotta say, you were a dumbass about this.
robthom- December 23, 2009 at 11:44 am
"I wish Jones hadn't listened to his promoters/coaches and just taken the nsac decision like a man. "

skeletor- December 23, 2009 at 11:31 am
@ meanfinger

That's hardly the same thing. That was a close decision not a one sided ass beating, with a fucked up set of circumstances to end the fight. You will likely never see that same thing play out again.
robthom- December 23, 2009 at 11:09 am
Great title!
macreadysshack- December 23, 2009 at 10:42 am
Hamill was still fighting - sometimes all a fighter can do is survive for a little while and look for an opening/wait for a mistake. Ham didn't tap from the separated shoulder - he didn't look like he was about to quit. He was taking his ass beating and probably hoping Zeus would throw down a lightening bolt at Jones or something. The gnp, which included illegal elbows, stopped the fight.

I wish Jones hadn't listened to his promoters/coaches and just taken the nsac decision like a man. It was a complex issue but not a win-able position, in my opinion. Choose your battles and absolutely don't chose one that you are unlikely to win AND makes you look like an asshole.
Sabado Gigante- December 23, 2009 at 10:39 am

Jones wasn't submitted, or finished or anything. Nor did he throw an illegal strike that resulted in his opponent not being able to continue. How do you give a loss to someone who didn't lose???

That being said, the NSAC has a policy to follow, and unfortunately it goes against cases that are similar to Jones'. We all know where Jones stands in the pecking order, so the best thing for now is to forget about it and fight on... I hope both Jones and Hamill continue towards successful careers and I hope Mazagatti stops using meth before he officiates...
clutchy hopkins- December 23, 2009 at 10:24 am
i agree with the prof, fo sho
Robocop Didnt Tap- December 23, 2009 at 10:24 am
Should've played the race card...
One Two- December 23, 2009 at 10:22 am
hammil wouldn't be smoking weed Jon Jones would tell on him.
steampunk22- December 23, 2009 at 10:05 am
Man am I ever glad this held up.
ProfessorMMA- December 23, 2009 at 9:52 am
@Doc Martin:

my line 'good "call" by the NSAC' was a shot at the NSAC for not making any call at all.

The fact remains that Hamill hadn't given up due to his shoulder and the illegal strikes caused a major cut on his nose and possibly loss of consciousness or TKO like status. I think it's shitty for Jones but he's a shit kicker and will be around for a long time.

Also this should be an eye opener for the NSAC and the UFC as to how a deaf or disabled fighter is dealt with in certain situations.

personally i think matt hamill thought that mazzagatti was stopping the fight as a TKO for Jones and so didnt make any move to get up or comment.

It was kinda like the perfect storm to screw Jones.
Ronwah- December 23, 2009 at 9:50 am
Jones should appeal again, it's clear Mazzagatti is on drugs.
Doc Martin- December 23, 2009 at 9:40 am
I disagree with you ProfessorMMA that it was a good call. In regards to the shoulder injury Matt Hamil was not "fighting with it", he was surviving with it. Yes the blows were illegal, yes they caused a cut, but they most likely weren't the blows that knocked him unconscious, and the fight wasn't ruled in Hamil's favor because of the cut. The fact of the matter is, Mazzagatti interpreted Matt Hamil's lack of response as a result of injury from the illegal blows. In fact, Hamil's lack of response came from the fact that he's a deaf man with blood in his eyes.

The NSAC appeal process is a joke if it has no power to do anything about bad decisions.
meanfinger- December 23, 2009 at 9:37 am
@ skeletor- sure we all know that hamill beat bisping, but lost.. but in the long run, that one loss can hurt.. but we are talkin about a different breed of animal here.. jones is a BEAST!!
meanfinger- December 23, 2009 at 9:36 am
i agree with the decision. lets say corey hill broke his leg kickin someone else.. but he was a fuckin savage and started doin the aoki butt scoot, then his opponent kicked him in the head while he was scootin.. thats illegal and should end the fight even tho the beanstalks leg was snapped like a bammer stem and he couldnt finish the fight because of his leg injury
skeletor- December 23, 2009 at 9:34 am
Who gives a fuck. That loss on his record is really just a formality. Everybody knows he was winning (won) that fight, it's not going to hurt his career any.