Dana is very careful @ choosing when to refer to something with “UFC” or “MMA”. In this case, he’s referring to the UFC because, well, nobody’s ever died in the UFC. Despite Mazzagatti. If someone ever DOES die in a UFC fight.. well.. Dana can always say it hasn’t happened in the WEC. And if someone ever DOES die in the WEC… he may as well say that it never happened in PRIDE, and the book is closed. And they allowed ya to juice and kick/knee to the head back then! (perhaps NSAC should reconsider that, now that I think about it…)

Aaaaand JUST to be tasteless, I’m going to speculate that perhaps Germany is still trying to distance itself from things that combine violence, domination, competition… especially with a superpower that’s located south of Canada, after that um, other thing that happened there back when video was in black and white.

Also, does it even matter that kids can’t get in? Is it a demographic that matters right away? Their dads will just go w/o them, and they’ll stay home and order the PPV with or without permission.

@ Art Gibbs:

Well MMA and Boxing have definitly existed in the last decade. How many MMA-related deaths were in the last 10 years? Were there really that many more boxing matches than MMA fights that there’s no comparing the 2 in safety?

Sounds like libel to me. Get the lawyers out.

Who honestly gives a rats ass if some minor in Germany can check out the UFC live, you have grown men who can’t even watch it live in NY or Ontario and many other states /provinces

The people that did die were in no good MMA organizations with NO medical evaluations or safety precautions. So that argument is Irrelevant.

@ Art Gibs- You are pointing out a minor flaw in the Argument . And the conclusive evidence is all over . Where were you all this time that MMA or UFC has existed. Noob. The Ben’s arent here to write an argumentative essay on why MMA is safer than Boxing or Football. So uh yea save it for your English class.

How old do you have to be to get into the Holocaust museum?

“What the fuck is wrong with German People?”

But seriously, their fascist views on media, video games, and sports violence is completely ridiculous and totally illogical.

But of course these people will tell you that no person or nation ever decided to be violent, invade their neighboring countries, or exterminate entire peoples until violent media made them do it….

This from the land of doo doo porn.

3 people have died competing in MMA; just non in the UFC or sanctioned bouts.

same old same old, if you don’t like MMA that’s fine, but its not like it’s been forced on the people in Germany. Just like hamburgers aren’t forced on vegetarians, they are there to cater to some tastes (literally) and if you’re not into it then by all means complain about the people that do…i think you’ll find similar sorta situations have occurred around the world over the years, particularly in Germany. Its called racism, Not cool.

anyways the comparison between mma and boxing is a well travelled path, what about the riots and mentals running around after their teams have lost in other sports? that’s just human behaviour, at least in MMA its restrained to a point and for the most part closely regulated.

chill Germany

Sam Vasquez from Renegades Extreme Fighting show at the Toyota Center in Houston, died weeks later from blunt trauma to the head sustained in the fight.

Douglas Dedge was the other one I mentioned.

Apparently there was a third that I wasn’t aware of, according to wikipedia. Also in an unsanctioned bout.

Haven’t there actually been two deaths in mma? One in an unsanctioned fight in another country where the participant had a pre-existing heart condition, and one in the U.S. where I think he died of brain trauma? I thought there had been 2, one sketchy one that shouldn’t even count and one legitimate death.

“Shouldnt that tell alone you something?”
Cut n’ paste + Germany diss fail.

Though I don’t disagree with Dana developing a Roger Murtaugh over the issue.

mma has had A death but…….. 1 in 20 years compared to like 5 a year in boxing.. even with the difference in participation id say its a decent argument. plus in boxing.. a guy gets concussed, hes given 8 seconds to gather his wits, then gets the go ahead to get concussed again.. where as in mma a guy gets concussed and they stop the fight.. hmmm which is more dangerous

Keep in mind these are the people that love David Hasselhoff. Shouldnt that tell alone you something?

Read my post carefully. I’m not arguing that MMA is dangerous. I’m simply (and correctly) pointing out the obvious flaw in that common argument: MMA hasn’t had a death, whereas football and boxing have. If MMA was around as long as football or boxing, and was just as popular, then the analogy would be spot on. But MMA isn’t as popular and the comparison, although somewhat helpful, certainly isn’t conclusive evidence that MMA is safer.

Now, how can you argue with that?

I was just about to say… the worst injuries sustained at fight for the troops were a broken leg and dislocated elbow, not exactly life threatening.

They should stay home where its safe and listen to blissful sounds of their countries folk singers… RAMMSTEIN

MM — I don’t know about you, but I define “serious injury” as something that is potentially life threatening. Broken legs and arms don’t fall into that catagory.

SSDD

Well if the Germans say so, it must be true.

After all, they’d never claim something to be good when it was, in fact, a total piece of crap.

Also, the most dangerous youth sport in the world (by a huge number) has been soccer. Maybe we should keep our children safe by keeping them off the soccer fields?

Art, are you German? German youth are better acclimated to MMA. After all, they can still buy cigarettes from vending machines, and also purchase alcohol. Obviously the German gaming authorities have not been paying any attention to the fastest growing sport in the world.

I guess Dana forgot about the “Fight For The Troops” show which had a couple of serious, gruesome injuries (One by stupidity and one by freak-accident).

I think the argument that there are more deaths and serious injuries every year from boxing or playing football is a decent one. But, it totally overlooks the fact that there are LOTS more people who box and play football than people who do MMA. As more and more people get involved in MMA, the chances of death and serious injury will escalate. So, you can’t really compare MMA to boxing and football yet because it simply isn’t as popular.

Im mother russia…

Oh wait, wrong country.