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Overeem Added to October Glory Card in Moscow; Your Move Zuffa

United Glory announced today that Strikeforce heavyweight champion Alistair Overeem is slated to compete in its next event scheduled for October in Moscow, Russia.

According to the poster for the event, “The Reem” will be joined by fellow Golden Glory fighters Sergei Kharitonov and Siyar Bahadurzada on the card.

Some might think that the move by Overeem, who was removed from the Strikeforce Heavyweight Grand Prix after refusing to compete in the second round of the tournament a month earlier than he was originally slated to do so, may have been done for leverage in negotiating his next deal with the Zuffa-owned organization. According to his longtime trainer Martijn de Jong, who first confirmed his fighter’s inclusion on the Glory card with MMAFighting’s Ariel Helwani, that is not the case and an opponent for “The Demolition Man” who will compete in the MMA portion of the show, will be named soon.

His current agreement was to conclude at the end of the GP, however it’s unclear whether or not he is still under contract with Strikeforce since he is no longer in the tournament.

Overeem, who, like Nick Diaz recently stated that he may make the transition to boxing if he continues to feel disrespected by Strikeforce and UFC ‘s parent company, told Helwani during last week’s episode of the MMA Hour that he would be fighting in October regardless of whether or not it was under the Zuffa umbrella. It appears he wasn’t kidding.

It will be interesting to see how this develops.

 

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Lonnie Batt- July 29, 2011 at 6:25 pm
JUST LIKE i SAID WE ALLISTERS DAYS AS A WORLD CLASS HEAVYWEIGHT ARE OVER,,,,,RELEASED FROM STRIKEFORCE,,,,,,MARK MY WORDS....
ArmFarmer- July 29, 2011 at 7:03 am
Interesting facts, but I still think fedor would get destroyed against lesnar, carwen, cain, and I think any of the fighters I listed in my rankings would have great chances of winning.
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XENOPHON- July 28, 2011 at 7:48 pm
@ArmFarmer

I think that's a good place you provided for a estimated ranking. I can't find much fault off the cuff - thanks. I'm gonna run with it.

Here's what I see using the names we threw out, plus a couple extra at the bottom.

Cain (8-0) 29 years 244 pounds 6 foot 1 inches
Junior (13-1) 26 years 239 pounds 6 foot 4 inches
Lesnar (5-2) 34 years 280 pounds 6 foot 3 inches
Carwin (12-2) 36 years 254 pounds 6 foot 2 inches
Mir (15-5) 32 years 260 pounds 6 foot 3 inches
FEDOR (31-3) 34 years 230 pounds 6 foot
Mitrione (5-0) 33 years 261 pounds 6 foot 3 inches
Schaub (8-1) 28 years 245 pounds 6 foot 4 inches
Nelson (15-6) 35 years 260 pounds 6 foot
Nogueira (32-6-1) 35 years 234 pounds 6 foot 3 inches
Struve (21-5) 23 years 255 pounds 6 foot 11 inches


There is something disproportional.

The average win ratio is (15-3)
The average age is 31 years
The average weight is 251 pounds
The average height is 6 foot 3 inches


If Fedor where to join the UFC he has:


- twice as many wins
- a par loss record
- is 21 pounds lighter
- is 3 inches shorter


when compared to the average UFC Heavyweight.


If Fedor stepped in to fight Cain Velasquez today, he would have nearly 4.25 times the experience, he would be 5 years older, be 14 pounds lighter, and give up 1 inch in height.



As you pointed out, less weight can sometime equate to quickness. Outside of this I think it is impossible for Cain to ever gain as much experience over a 5 year period. I think the the UFC would be completely stupid to not sign Fedor. He would at worse be there for only 3 fights.
ArmFarmer- July 28, 2011 at 4:53 pm
Ufc has 25 heavyweights? Lol.. Thats a tough one. Carwins got back to back losses agaisnt lesnar and dos santos, lesnar got mopped up by cain, mir is on a streak but got crushed twice, mitrione and schaub are on streaks but no big wins.. I guess my rankings would be something like: cain, junior, lesnar, carwen, mir, fedor, mitrione/schaub, nelson? That makes sense right? Mirs last two were cro cop via ko and nelson via rape right?
@birdman
I think strikeforce belt carries a tad more weight than your ultimate backyard championship.. I dont completely disagree with what youre getting at but thats a bit extreme.
XENOPHON- July 28, 2011 at 4:50 pm
@Birdman
Much of what you write is true. The only thing UFC ever had going for it was that they corralled the game first. As they grew, especially Dana's ego, they became better and contractually locking people down. In one way the UFC is much like Facebook. They won all rights to just about everything. A monopoly, no doubt in my mind.
This control will one day unravel much of what they have sought so hard to exploit. As for the Reem, the UFC will go on with or without the Reem. Yet, there are many other avenues he can pursue.
I think the Reem's refusal to be allowed to get caged by Fluffa is a good thing. He has talent and their other venues.
Possibly the Reem knows that by winning (or losing)the StrikeFarce tournament, he would have to seriously step up his game if reentering the UFC, and has optioned to walk rather impinge in his record. That's called brand management.
Is he leaving money on the table, sure he is. Yet for some men, money is not everything, winning is.
If money is the sole angle, then the currency in Europe or Asia also can be direct deposited and is worth more - which in the end means negotiations are easier.
If you are planning to fight inside the UFC, then you must know that you will have to do more than give a reach around.
Look at it this way, the Reem is walking away from what Tito would surely suck cock over.

Go Bellator!
FRITO-BANDITO- July 28, 2011 at 4:06 pm
To ArmFarmer: Wish I had seen it. I might agree with you.
Birdman- July 28, 2011 at 3:29 pm
Ok, let me start this by saying that I am a huge fan of 'The Reem", however, I just have to say....this has become the most backwards ass shit I have ever witnessed in my life. I truly believe that Alister doesn't give a shit about proving himself in MMA. Everyone who is not in denial knows that the UFC is the grand poobah of the MMA world. Now I know that statement is going to draw the ire of so called "real fans", who root for any third rate organization over the UFC, but I do believe these are real fans that are just angry over the fact that someone they don't care for on a PERSONAL level, happens to run the only company that really matters in a sport that they genuninely love. But back to my original point. In a world where every fighter works their ass off and dreams of a day where they can be considered "real" atheletes, on par with NFL, MLB & NBA players, you would assume that these guys would jump at any opportunity to prove themselves worthy of such accolades, but no, in an MMA world where, more and more we hear phrases like "Anderson Silva money" or "GSP deals" and with more and more endorsment deals coming to the table we see so many fighters assuming, based on performances made in these third rate promotions, that they deserve these things from the outset. I find myself sympatizing with Dana White on this issue, and wanting to say, "No one knows who the fuck you are. Now tell me again why I'm supposed to pay you this kind of money." In the end the answer seems so clear. If you want the big bucks, if you want the endorsment deals, if you want notariety and fame, if you are interested in the "Anderson Silva money" or the "GSP deals" then earn them. The same way they earned them...by fighting fights that mean something. I could start a promotion tomorrow, put my self on my own roster as a light heavyweight figher, sign up my neighbor to fight me, beat the shit out of him in my back yard and become the new undisputed light heavyweight champion of the "who fucking cares" promotion and that is going to mean the same thing to the UFC and the people as any belt from Strikeforce, Pride, Shark Fights, Affliction, Bellator or any other fucking promotion you can think of....absolutely fucking nothing. So I guess if I could wish one thing for fighters like "The Reem" is to stop feeling so entitled and just do what you're good at...fight....and in the end if you are as good as we all know you are, then the next generation of fighters can bitch about not getting "Alister Money".
XENOPHON- July 28, 2011 at 3:00 pm
@ArmFarmer

I will remind that Fedor has defended his titles, far more times than any recent UFC titleholders.

Tell me this.

Based on the rankings of top 25 UFC heavyweights where do you (or anyone) see Fedor being slotted if the UFC was to sign him today - regardless of a win or loss against Hendo?
ArmFarmer- July 28, 2011 at 2:44 pm
I was originally picking henderson all the way, expected him to dominate.. But now im not so sure. Looks like fedor is in shape and motivated.. But im still gonna go with henderson. Even though fedor is praised for fighting bigger guys i think thats what gave him his edge. He was faster and more technical than his opponents.. Heavyweights in mma and wrestling tend to be a lower caliber of talent overall imo. I mean.. Sylvia held ufc gold twice.
To fritobandito.. If you had read the original article you would understand. I had to read it several times to make sense of it. Its been edited.. It was really bad.
XENOPHON- July 28, 2011 at 2:33 pm
@ArmFarmer

Sure, as you say any debate should wait until after the big brawl. BTW who are you picking to win the fight, Fedor or Hendo? Personally they both get a thumbs up from me, but I want to see Fedor not retire. As "Me_likey" says, the game has evolved, and I was dismayed that he fell to the arm bar. As for the weight differences I believe all his fights have been at heavyweight, surely he could move down as suggestive from his Bigfoot loss, but there is nothing wrong with being smaller with only 3 losses to his name out of 31 fights - IMHO.
Lonnie Batt- July 28, 2011 at 1:56 pm
I have been saying it,, this guy is afraid to lose,,, he loves his statis and he is doing exactly what you all are suspecting he is,, we are never going to see him fight anyone in the UFC MARK MY WORDS,,,I also believe the time is going to come when he will be forced to fight Silva because Silva will win the tournament, and MARK THESE WORDS ALSO,,,, HE WILL NOT FIGHT SILVA EITHER... he is going to push this boxing issue and also hide inside K1 I believe that his MMA days as a world top heavyweight are over !!!!! BELIEVE IT!~!!!!!!
FRITO-BANDITO- July 28, 2011 at 1:16 pm
It's obvious what Overdone is ducking, he's ducking wrestling and BJJ. Those are his weaknesses. He's primarily a striker. He did not BEAT Werdum he avoided him. Hell he avoided him for three rounds. He avoided the ground game and hell he even avoided the striking. Antonio Silva would have gotten him in a clinch and forced it to the ground, fight over.

By the way, I hated Mrs. Charman's High School English Class. This is a forum for MMA news and comment. I read it for content, not for punctuation and spelling. I welcome your comments on MMA and MMA fighters thou I may dissagree. I think comments about High School English should be addressed to the management.
ArmFarmer- July 28, 2011 at 9:52 am
We might as well wait til after saturday for this debate. I think if he loses to hendo in anything other than a close decision, he will probably just retire.
Me likey- July 28, 2011 at 9:42 am
i see validity to both armfarmer and xenophon's arguments. what clinches it for me is the fact that in his day royce gracie was a dominant champion too. now he can't even get on a card in his own country. for good reason too. he has aged and the game has evolved. fedor is however still young and has the ability to make a huge comeback. i don't see him having a chance at doing it at heavyweight though. he has to go to 205 for a chance at becoming relevant again.
ArmFarmer- July 28, 2011 at 9:32 am
Also, while I understand that things were different years ago, his wins by todays standards aren't even impressive. Guys like Hunt, Sylvia, Arlovski, Coleman, Cro Cop.. all of these guys that he's beaten are, by todays standards, cans. He needs to beat someone the caliber of overeem, carwin, dos santos, lesnar, or cain to put himself back into the spotlight. I know he's accomplished a lot, but as of now he is yesterdays news.
ArmFarmer- July 28, 2011 at 9:28 am
Supreme catch of the decade? Fedor is virtually worthless to the ufc now.. what are you smoking? I see your points, but those do not translate into value for ufc. As far as the ufc is concerned, fedor is an undersized heavyweight that most people have never even heard of who is coming off of two consecutive humiliating defeats. Value to the ufc means "will a large percentage of people pay to watch this guy fight?", and while fedor may be a draw for us.. you have to keep in mind that the majority of ufc's fan base consists of drunken frat boys that don't know the difference between a guillotine and a triangle choke.. and are unaware that mma exists outside of ufc.
XENOPHON- July 28, 2011 at 9:16 am
@SumDumGuy

I am unsure of of the 3-2 reference you made regarding Fedor. I see his record standing as 31-3. I think the loss to Werdum was a matter of getting caught - it happens.
As for the loss to Bigfoot, it may have a been a safe stoppage, but I will forever wonder what would have happened if the 3rd round had been allowed to happen? All of Fedor's 3 round performances have always been wins.

If we use your numbers (5 fights) for Fedor, we get this:

Loss - A. Silva (StrikeForce)
Loss - Werdum (StrikeForce)
Win - Rogers (StrikeForce)
Win - Arlovski (Affliction)
Win - T. Silva (Affliction)

After this Fedor carries 28 nearly consecutive wins. Whats impressive, is that combined he has bested or floored Lindland, Hunt, Coleman, Crocop, A.R. Nogueria, Randleman, Herring, Schilt, Sobral, Arona and a few others.

One can dismiss some of Fedor's accomplishments but is often forgotten that he has dispatched with ease most all top ranked fighters he has stood up against, and done so consistently in the 1st round.

At the age of 34 years old, compared to a Couture (now 48 years old and with a record of 19-11) Fedor's 31-3 is supreme. I don't want to come across like I'm sucking Fedor's crank, but any fighter who carries win ratio better than 10:1 and who has dominated the best from: Pride, BODog, M1, Yarennoka (GRIN), StrikeForce, and many UFC champions now dethroned yet easily dispatched by Fedor mean's he is still the supreme catch of the decade for the UFC.

Come on, the fucking mans nickname is is the "Last Emperor" he's earned it, and he still has whats most important to the money grubber collective of the Fajita boys, Dwight, and their Arab brethren...people like him (even if critical), they want to see him fight, and he sells tickets! Isn't that what really matters most, making sure Dana White can drive dick-little sports cars?
Fedor Penn- July 28, 2011 at 9:06 am
Overeem vs Badr Hari K-1 rules, make it happen.
jamiepert- July 28, 2011 at 8:55 am
It's a joke, Fedor has losses to his name because he fights anyone put in front of him. Overeem has ducked Antonio Silva it is obvious...
PERPATRAITOR- July 28, 2011 at 8:32 am
I would like to congratulate ant farmer for commenting on the actual story finally. He's not only just here for grammar and spell checks guys....
Me likey- July 28, 2011 at 8:16 am
thining-thinking edit button
Me likey- July 28, 2011 at 8:14 am
naive? thining that overeem isn't using ped's is naive. He weighed in at 224 against Buentello back in November, 2007. He was 242 against Mirko in November 2008. He weighed in at 254 3 months later. 30 pds of muscle in 13 months? he also gained all that muscle while competing in japan. drug testing there is virtually nonexistant.
i am not saying a person can't put on muscle but it is going to take an extended amount of time. gsp said it would take him over a year to put on enough weight to start fighting at 185. that is only 15 pound weight difference.
as far as testing for his last fight and being clean. you can cycle off and clean out your system. you will notice he was 15 pounds lighter his first fight being tested.
ArmFarmer- July 28, 2011 at 8:09 am
I mean, Overeem did hold onto strikeforce's heavyweight title for like 3 years without defending it once, and he's got a history of can crushing and fighting outside of the states, so I can see why people get tired of his bouncing around. I would love for ufc to sign him so that he'd be put against the best in the world and not have the freedom to crush cans in dream whenever he feels like it.
KarmaAteMyCat- July 28, 2011 at 7:35 am
Really guys? He let you down? He's dodging something? You guys are astonishing! I hear forming our own opinions based off of logic and reason might create some sense of knowledge on the subject. How surprised I wasn't when I read people getting all Emotional about how he let you down. That's pushing it into the whole "I can't live without you" zone aka the creeper zone. I find it disgusting that we're always bringing up the elusive Drug test with Overeem because of how he's already been tested as recent as his last fight and didn't pop for anything. I think you all bring the gavel down a bit to hard on the Reem. Everyone in Strikeforce is aloud to compete in outside leagues I mean come on don't be naive. Nick Diaz was going to compete in a boxing match against Jeff Lacey, Shinya Aoki competes in the Japanese Circuit still so why can't Overeem? He does hold a world title or three. He might even have a guinness world record. So next time we talk about the Reem remember he is just a guy we love to watch fight so just let him do his thing. Did you honestly expect that tournament to go off without a hitch? That would be insanely naive.
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