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Pat Miletich Serves Josh Gross

“Yeah, you heard me right, four eyes!”

The boys over at MMA Live invited veteran mixed martial arts journalist Josh Gross to the set for their latest episode on Thursday. The banter lightly touched on Strikeforce’s fight bookings (or lack thereof) and Dan Henderson‘s legacy before Gross unveiled ESPN’s first official MMA rankings. Cutting edge stuff, guys. While the fighters rounding out their top ten pound-for-pound list did hail from many different weight classes, they all had one thing in common: current contracts with the UFC.

All ten fighters call the Octagon home. No fighters from Strikeforce or Bellator or any Pat Miletich took umbrage.

Miletich doesn’t waste any time mincing words (fun starts at 17:05)

“Well, to be honest with you, I mean I honestly, I feel the number one through three, I agree with 100%. Cain Velazquez #4, but the rest of it, it looks like a 1-900 call in and vote for your American Idol to me. Where’s Gilbert Melendez? Where’s Eddie Alvarez? Where’s Overeem, the only guy in MMA that can go over to K1 and crush people? Josh, it looks like you’re kinda trying to get credentialed by Dana White again. Getting the White gig again. So I got some questions about that.”

Daaaaaaamn! We love watching people get served and all, but is this accusation really warranted? As Anik had mentioned seconds earlier, these aren’t Josh Gross’s official P4P rankings, they are ESPN’s. A team of five ESPN journalists, of whom Gross was one, came together to create the UFC-laden list. Had contributor Franklin McNeil presented these rankings we wouldn’t be in this situation, because no one would dare question his journalistic integrity. For those unfamiliar with Gross’s UFC saga, Bloody Elbow has your history lesson.

The real crime here is not the accusation, but that we aren’t treated to a reaction from Gross. A proper rebuttal or even a quick shot of his glasses fogging up in anger would have sufficed. Anik himself could have come to Gross’s defense merely by repeating that he too took part in the rankings, but instead he settles for an “oh snap!!!” in the background and quickly changes the subject.

In the end though, this is much ado about nothing. By their very nature rankings are biased and speculative, with pound-for-pound rankings being the worst of the bunch. These debates are an exercise in futility, and since you could use the exercise, how badly did ESPN fuck up their first go at MMA rankings?

1) Anderson Silva

2) GSP

3) Jose Aldo

4) Frankie Edgar

5) Shogun Rua

6) Dominick Cruz

7) Cain Velasquez

8 ) Jon Jones

9) Jake Shields

10) Gray Maynard

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Ric Flair- March 14, 2011 at 9:59 am
somebody needs to tell Johnny Unitas... errr... I mean uhh... Pat Miletich that bleach is a very refreshing drink!
Mir please break Brocks neck- March 13, 2011 at 8:49 pm
My Top Ten:

1) Anderson Silva
2) Lou Ferrigno
3) GSP
5) Johnny 'Bones' Jones
6) Ron Jeremy
7) Sean Penn
8) Lyoto Machida
9) Lorenzo Fertitta's breath
10) Frank Fertitta's vagina
stopdrinkingpee- March 12, 2011 at 12:54 pm
The list looks pretty reasonable, except for one thing. I don't understand how anyone who watched Silva vs. Sonnen, Silva vs. Maia, Silva vs. Leites, and Silva vs. Cote can rank Anderson Silva ahead of GSP.

Yeah, the front kick to Belfort's chin was nice. GSP had more good rounds in his last fight than Silva has in the last three years combined.
Fried Taco- March 12, 2011 at 12:13 pm
So Josh has the last laugh! He didn't need to respond to Pat, he let Dana do the talking for him. You're Dana's bitch once again Pat!
KarmaAteMyCat- March 12, 2011 at 11:28 am
He is so obnoxious.
dranokills- March 12, 2011 at 11:04 am
Pat mila BITCH needs to shut the hell up, and stop talking out his ass.
He is way to bias to his buddys to be honest with himself much less others.
so Pat bitchamitch if you are reading...shut up asshole.
therealtristan- March 12, 2011 at 10:45 am
Well, I can tell you right now if I had beat the #4 guy once and fought him to a draw in his last fight, I'd be pretty pissed to be ranked #10.
KrmtDfrog- March 12, 2011 at 10:25 am
The only person 'Tich mentioned that has a possible consideration is Gil, as he's the only top 5 or so fighter in that list. Overeem's best win in 5 years has been Brett Rogers. Alvarez has a still fairly recent loss to Aoki, who got KTFO'd by a cross-dressing kickboxer and dominated for 23 some-odd minutes by Gil.
KarmaAteMyCat- March 12, 2011 at 9:31 am
The people hating on Nick Diaz need to hate on AO for the same can crushing reasons. Fucking stupid how you guys have such selective memories. Hurp Durp! No seriously that shits annoying. Oh CCman you must be one handsome and well endowed mother fucker if your my father. Heh.

Karmaatemycat stands for logic in MMA Bitchs!
PERPATRAITOR- March 12, 2011 at 9:14 am
Nick Diaz should be on the list, right above Palhares, right Turd!?!?
ccman- March 12, 2011 at 9:01 am
Good for you Karma.. now say it about mike and ben..... come back to the fun side. I am your father karmaaaaaaa.
KarmaAteMyCat- March 12, 2011 at 8:39 am
If Pat and his announce team of dumb asses hadn't forgotten the unified rules of MMA I might give a flying fuck what he has to say. I know this is very out of character for me but fuck that guy.
elpistolero45- March 12, 2011 at 8:38 am
@danomite: Jose Aldo beats the crap out of everyone he fights, and he does in an impressive fashion.
Kimbos Bread- March 12, 2011 at 8:27 am
Pat Miletich is MMA's version of the late porn sensation Buck Adams.
RwilsonR- March 12, 2011 at 8:27 am
I just don't get the need to mandatorily put guys from other organizations on a rankings list just for the sake of inclusion. I've just never understood this type of minor league affirmative action.
ccman- March 12, 2011 at 8:24 am
Aniks an ass kiss, and his live blog is 800 "your the greastest" 'questions' folled by 12 stories why he called chost and 4 boxing questions, 3 mma questions and 1 don't text and drive. His stuff sucks live with his softball questions and predictions based on whose been on the show.
I don't think I would want him standing up for me, not that he would have the balls anyway.
RwilsonR- March 12, 2011 at 8:15 am
Gilbert Melendez has losses to Josh Thompson and Ishida in the last 3 years, and wins over other overrated lightweights.
Eddie Alvarez has losses to Shinya Aoki and Nick Thompson in the last 3 years, and wins over other overrated lightweights.
Alistair Overeem had 7 losses in the last five years, including going on a three fight losing streak until he miraculously transformed his body, and is currently on a 6 fight win streak with wins over such notables as Tony Sylvester, Gary Goodridge, and James Thompson. His best win is over Brett Rogers. If you want to count his wins over undersized competition in a different sport, I'm not really sure where to rank that. Maybe Roger Gracie should be on the list then for his undefeated MMA record and his Mundials and ADCC record. Hell
nicey- March 12, 2011 at 8:11 am

fuck off.
frdkrgr- March 12, 2011 at 8:04 am
Where the "Terry Funk" is Tank Abbott on this god awful list?
jgrant- March 12, 2011 at 8:01 am
I think if it was a list of top ten LW's, then Melendez and Alvarez deserve to be on it (though I waver on Alvarez considering his best win is Huerta who wasn't ranked at the time and whose best wins are Leonard Garcia and Clay Guida). If it was a list of top ten HW's then Overeem deserves to be on it. However, Miletich uses wicked faulty logic in why Overeem should be included. Because Overeem can win in K-1, he should be a top guy? So I guess since Joe Warren can win so many wrestling competitions, he should be a top guy. And I guess all the judo competitions that Akiyama has won get him in there too. I think it's awesome/badass that Overeem can go kick ass in K-1 and I get striking is a part of MMA but saying that his K-1 wins should earn him MMA adulation is like saying Ben Askren's wrestling automatically make him top 10 too.

I actually have no problem with this list at all. And as Miletich proved in the show, he is very upset about the notion that Jake Shields beat Dan Henderson and I think Shields's inclusion mixed with Miletich's inability to comprehend SF's second-tier status to the UFC means he's going to go on a rant like this everytime.
youenjoyzedella- March 12, 2011 at 7:57 am
We spend a lot of time on here and have a pretty good idea of the goings on in the MMA community, or at least think we do. Though it consumes many of our lives, it hardly exists in the majority of others. Even guys who go to BJJ classes at a local gym and have friends that do MMA will refer to their friends as doing "UFC". I'm not saying that this reporter is unaware that other organizations exists, but he's likely not quite as involved in MMA as he should be.
jimbonics- March 12, 2011 at 7:44 am
Fighters IN the UFC are not tested in every fight.
danomite- March 12, 2011 at 7:42 am
You want to know where Melendez, Alvarez, and Overeem are Pat? They're out fighting lesser competition, that's where they are. I could see his point if those guys were not listed in the top 10 for their respective weight classes but this is supposed to be a list of the ten best fighters in the sport.
The only problem I have with this and any other p4p list for that matter is that Jose Aldo is always ranked #3. Why? he got the belt from Mike brown(who has gone 2-3 since then), defended against Urijah Faber (who was 2-2 in his four previous fights, and got a title shot coming off an impressive 1-fight winning streak) and defended again against Manny Gamburyan (nothing I really need to say about that other than it's Manny fucking Gamburyan for christ's sake!!). Somehow that's better than what frankie edgar did against BJ Penn twice? Okay buddy...
mattyr31- March 12, 2011 at 7:38 am
The list looks good!!! Fighters outside of the UFC are not tested in every fight.
cecils_pupils- March 12, 2011 at 7:16 am
Any P4P list that does not have Ken Shamrock is a joke.