Lesnars “Key to Victory” before every fight is – Do not enter cage with Fedor.

Fedor would arm-bar Lesnar easily if his first right hand didn’t touch Brock’s chin. It’s crazy some are saying the 31-1 guy has to prove himself against the 4-1 guy who has yet to face a top MMA HW. Brock Lesnar will lose a fight in the UFC before Fedor ever makes it there.

Fedor is the most overrated fighter since CroCup. Everyone said how guys in the UFC had no idea what CroCup could do, but now we’ve seen how awesome he is at sucking..
Fedor versus any of these guys would give him a loss:
Velasquez, Gonzaga, Mir, Lesnar, shit even Couture…

maybe big john wasn’t at 104 because he hasn’t reffed for the ufc in almost two years.

Not to bring this back to Kimbo but the Grimm is basically doing what Kimbo should’ve been doing from the get go if he was actually serious about MMA. Both are power punchers but one actually looks like he’s been training a ground game.

Aside from the Shields fight, the event was pretty damn entertaining with a good mix of ground and grappling skills shown rather than just brawling.

The level of striking power Shields has is the equivalent of a middle tier featherweight at this point. I knew he couldn’t strike on his feet but his ground striking was even more pathetic.

“Brock will be Fedor’s asterisk”?

don’t you the opposite? fedor don’t need to prove shit. it’s dana and brock that need fedor.

also sok suks

fedor rules the world. rogers has a future. shields is boring but effective. mayhem needs some takedown defence. mousasi needs some legit opponents.

i’d take rogers over the current crop of ufc heavies, save for lesnar.

strikeforce put on a pretty good show. i was surprised and hope their business model is more robust than t-shirt sales. competition is good and i hope dana feels some heat from this showing. 5 million people is pretty good considering what a marginal sport MMA is still. strikeforce put together fights that people want to see. your move mr. white… and please don’t give us randy vs. big nog again.

Totally agree about sokoudju, whenever things aren’t going his way he finds a way out. Sok has loads of talent but that doesn’t mean jack if you have no heart.

Every Sokodju fight looks like he takes a dive. I agree that he gives up when the fight isn’t going his way.

Anyone else notice the “Brett Favre at Lambeau Field” comment? Seriously, who let those douche nozzles into the show, let alone so close to a microphone.

CBS did not adequately promote this fight. Fedor didn’t look as muscular for this fight but his cardio wasn’t a problem. I would give my left nut to see Fedor knock out Brock but it will never happen. Brock will be Fedor’s asterisk.

Imakeutap

I hear ya. Still curious as to what that cut of profits would look like.

Here’s my Aftermath:

Fedor: +30. He won, in good fashion with a lot of heads watching. He didn’t look indestructable, and speaks no english, so he’s not winning a lot of fans over. Nut huggers aside, I doubt he will ever be a draw, especially with the glaring lack of talent in Strikeforce’s heavyweight division.

Rogers: +10. He lost, and looked nervous as hell at the beginning, but put on an ok performance. I think way too much pr and distractions before the fight, plus the immense pressure of main eventing a nationally televised card against a fighter everyone in the promotion says is going to destroy you has something to do with it. In the end, he’s still pretty green, the next 2 years will decide whether he will ever ascend to the elite level. Flash ko’s don’t last forever.

Shields: -1 billion. Who wants to see this guy hump a guy for 25 minutes again? He’s the new ‘old koscheck’. The koscheck that had only 3 fights.

Miller: -10. He lost, in a boring fight, but tried to press the action. Can someone teach this guy how to defend a shot? He’s still way more marketable, and exciting than shields.

Sok: -1000. He always quits! He was doing damn good in the 1st round, great tosses, really had mousasi in some precarious positions. Everytime this guy fights, gets a little tired, and ends up on his back he quits. It’s sad, for some reason I’m always rooting for him, and i’m always dissapointed(bob sapp certainly doesn’t count).

Mousasi: even. He won, but didn’t really run through sok, until sok quit. He destroyed babalu, but had a lot of trouble with sok.

Werdum/Silva. boring. Seriously, who wants to see Werdum fight fedor? Snore.

@ Fight Fan

Fedor’s payout will mean nothing since he is a part owner of M-1 Global and will be profiting off the show’s production. He will probably show a small salary just like he did in Affliction. The money he is making doesn’t have to be reported to the athletic comission.

@ agentsmith- Dana and the rest of the athletic commisions only have a “business friendship.” They arent close at all with the NSAC besides being in Nevada and the UFC has no say whatsoever in who refs or judges a fight or else alot of things would be different and Cecil “mentally challenged” Peoples would not be judging. I really cant explain why Big John wasnt at UFC 104 seeing how it was in Cali though.

I agree with Lonewolf too that that shields fight should have been stood up at least 5 times. Shields is a joke and I hope he loses all the fans that he has, if he even had any. There needs to be more rules concerning people wasting time and doing the lay and pray for the whole round. Stand them up if they are being tools and take away like 1 or 2 points if they keep doing it. Its getting ridiculous and only hurts MMA.

+3 for the announcers? more like -33

@Art Gibs:

Yes, it’s the commissions that decide and the UFC has no direct control, but make no mistake, it probably wasn’t just a coincidence that Big John wasn’t used at UFC 104 even though it was in California where he is licensed. He reffed several of the fights at the Strikeforce event this weekend, but not a single one at UFC 104… how odd.

And the Nevada athletic commission has all but admitted that his application to get re-licensed there has basically been shuffled to the bottom of the pile… undoubtedly because of his negative comments about the NSAC, and maybe about the UFC too. Dana White and the Fertita bros are quite close with the boys at the NSAC too, by the way.

I’m taking some of what I said back.

5 Million viewers is pretty good honestly…and truth be told, it was Fedor that pulled that number. Some of the ratings suggest that Jake Shields single-handedly killed a full ratings point himself.

But I will still say until Fedor can fight Brock, Carwin, Velasquez, or hell…even Roy Nelson, he wont get the kinda paycheck he could.

I just want to see the payouts. Fedor’s take-home might provide some insight as to whether we might ever see him in in the Octagon.

Dude, was anyone else as annoyed with Big John as I was during the Shields Miller fight? I mean stand the fight up if there is nothing going on, on the ground!!! WTF. Miller got robbed and robbed himself…effing asshole.

-50 for Big John McCarthy

I have to agree with MKO. As much of a d-bag as Goldeberg is I can’t help but appreciate him when I see these other promotions announcers. I can’t stand Ranallo, that guy drives me crazy with his stupid catch phrases. Plus his voice bugs me because it doesn’t match his looks at all. The worst of all was that guy from Affliction with the raspy voice. I hope to never hear him again.

I thought it was a pretty good card. I had my 82 year old Grandfather in town visiting and he sat down to watch it with me. 5th round of the Shields fight I felt like an asshat as I tried to tell him that fights usually aren’t this boring. He was pretty entertained by Miller’s ring entrance though, as was I.

I was impressed with Sokoudjou. But the entire fight I was counting down in my head for when he got beaten down. ” Gegard kills him in 3….2…..1..” It lasted longer than I expected but the outcome was inevitable. Awesome job on the 1 commercial in between rounds and fights. Fail on the 15 minutes of commercials before the Fedor fight. I thought my brain was going to melt.

CP: Maintenance?? Tell GoDaddy to knock the bs off.

@agentsmith:

I don’t think DW has direct control over which refs are in the ring. It’s the commissions that decide, I think, but DW can probably influence them. So Big John could presumably ref a UFC fight in a state where’s he’s licensed and where DW doesn’t have influence.

The entire “aftermath” can be summed up by simply saying:

Good thing it was free.

I was at a bar playing some pool leading up to the Fedor/Rogers fight. Pretty good sized place with only two TVs (thankfully by the tables) showing the fights. There was an impressive crowd around for the main event, and when Fedor got his nose busted…I seemed to be the only one that knew it wasn’t gunna set the Russian back.

It’s easy to be an “armchair corner man” but how did Rogers not know he was hurting Fedor with those punches? Then again, soon as he did let loose…he left an opening big enough to drive a bus through (ie: Fedor’s right hand).

Most of the people in the bar had no idea who was fighting…just that a black dude was fighting a Russian. Which means..CBS did buns with their attempt to find a new crowd.

Soon as the Neilson ratings become available…we will see the UFC replays got a bigger draw than this did. And until Fedor wants a real challenge…gives up the M1 crap and goes to the UFC…no one is really going to care who he fights.

@Hamma Fist Eblo:

I agree, Sokoudjou just gave up. He’s done that in several fights. It’s like he doesn’t believe he can win, which is so strange because he definitely looked like he could’ve won based on his first-round performance; he had awesome throws and nasty leg kicks. He’s wasting his talent; it’s a shame.

I wonder what Dana White thinks of Big John being the ref for his biggest (although still distant) rival’s big show? Combine that with his signing on for EA Sports’ video game, and it’s looking less and less likely that Big John will ever step in the octagon again.

Speaking of which, +100 for the EA Sports marketing department… running ads showing gameplay with that night’s main event fighters is fucking GENIUS.

Goldberg gets better and better? I want some of what you’re smoking.

Yea, all he has to do is train on a heavy bag. Or eat Korean dog meat and drink his own urine. You know, whichever.

Gotta give Rogers credit. He looked much better than anyone could expect, and despite the knockout, showed he has an excellent chin; I couldn’t believe the final shot didn’t knock him cold. Did Fedor look a bit softer than usual? He always has the belly, but just looked a bit different. I don’t think Fedor prepared 100%, and I wasn’t too sure how well he worked on the cage, or that he was able to keep someone as strong as Rogers on his back. Good showing by both, though.
Horrible, horrible announcing. +3, really? Goldberg gets better and better as the competition lowers the bar.

You know I’m happy for Brett Rogers and the success he has had in MMA, he was able to quit his job at Wal*Mart, buy a house for his family, get a buncha shitty prison tattoo’s oh and get KTFO by T.L.E.
You keep living the American dream there Grim.

I also thought Sokodjou did way better than expected. He seemed explosive again. Though he totally quit at the end. +10 skills -20 heart.

Jake Shields has everything except punching power. Can he train that somehow?

*entertaining* wow… community college

Im pissed off at Brett. His one and only longshot chance to win the fight was by KO, but yet he performed in such a way as to realize afterward that he should have thrown his hands more. Its disappointing. I hope it eats at him.

Sokoudjou -114: Don’t go away mad, Sokoudjou….just go away.

Strikeforce Production Values -86: Was it just me, or did the ‘look’ of the whole show seem like EliteXC redux? Can we be just a little original, okay?

The 2nd Round +27: That’s the first time Fedors seen the second round in years!

i love these “aftermaths”… i know the oddsmakers had fedor as a huge favorite but i felt like that fight was bar-none the most intertaining of the night, and it was good to see he was somewhat human for once! gnp is how to beat him… rogers damaged him with a couple for the 5 seconds he was in fedors guard… scary to think what lesnar might actually be able to do! good to see other sports blogs covering mma like TheDailyBore.com too. two awesome free tv cards in 2 weekends, we’re headed mainstream people!!