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The Potato Index: TUF 9 Finale


(Guida turns taking a shot into an art form. Photo courtesy of UFC.com)

After another fun, free MMA weekend we turn once again to the Potato Index to tell us where everyone stands.  Those of you who are confused by what the numbers mean, just think of every fighter starting at his own particular zero coming into the event.  Then we make up a number to reflect how far he’s climbed or fallen after his latest fight.  Kind of like the stock market, but way more fun and only slightly more bullshit.

Diego Sanchez +104
Whatever you think the final scores should have been, Sanchez won that fight.  He was a whirlwind on the feet and even managed to be the aggressor from the bottom when it hit the mat.  But does a decision victory here equal a title shot?  We wouldn’t mind seeing Sanchez vs. Gray Maynard to establish a clear contender.



Clay Guida -27
He may have lost, but he did better than we expected and proved that he can take a shot with the best of them.  Despite a disastrous first round Guida kept on coming and probably could have gone two or three more rounds after the fight was over.  You don’t have to like him, but you should at least respect him.

James Wilks +58
One of the more forgettable TUF cast members from season nine turns in an exciting and dominant performance in the finale, pulling off a minor upset.  Now let’s see the UFC’s promotional muscle try and sell him as a genuine threat in the welterweight division.  Something tells us that it will be a subdued effort on their part.

DaMarques Johnson -51
The biggest talker and probably the best fighter on the American team looked absolutely overwhelmed from that start.  Chalk it up to Octagon jitters?  He’s still got enough raw talent and marketability that he’ll get another chance to prove himself, but he’d better make the most of it.

Chris Lytle +72
After telling us that all he wants are exciting, bonus-worthy fights Lytle goes out and produces exactly that.  He took Burns’ best shots and then gave them right back to him down the stretch.  After a fight like that we’re eager to see him in the Octagon again, maybe against former Burns foe Anthony Johnson?

Kevin Burns -49
He found out the hard way that hurting Lytle is not at all the same thing as finishing him.  The gritty performance is nothing to be ashamed of, but two straight losses never helps your job security in the UFC.

Ross Pearson +43
He did just barely enough to win the lightweight finale and the “six-figure contract,” though it wasn’t a memorable fight by any means.  He’s going to have to build his reputation from scratch in a very tough division.  Maybe now would be a good time to bring up the cautionary tale of Mac Danzig.

Andre Winner -40
His speed and athleticism seemed to evaporate in the clinch, which is where 90% of this fight took place.  A conservative approach may have been his undoing.  Now let’s see if he learned anything from it.  

Joe Stephenson +57
He needed that win in a bad way.  It wasn’t a thriller, but it wasn’t a loss either, so he’s got to be pleased.  If he becomes a regular at Greg Jackson’s maybe a minor revival is in the cards for “Daddy.”

Nate Diaz -51
You can complain that your opponent fought a boring fight, but that’s an argument that gets progressively weaker every time you employ it.  Diaz is a tough, resilient fighter, but he can’t show off his skills if he’s getting outwrestled all the time.  Now that everyone’s seen that hole in his game he can expect every opponent he faces to try and exploit it.

TUF 9: US vs. UK -87
Can we all agree that the nation against nation format is more interesting in concept than it is in practice?  The general lack of exciting talent on this season sure didn’t help, and it’s hard to get excited about the winners and their future in the UFC.  Let’s try and put this one behind us and hope Rashad, Rampage, and Kimbo will deliver next season.

Rogan/Goldberg +78
As much shit as we give Goldberg sometimes, this is the best duo in MMA broadcasting right now and the chemistry between them on Saturday showed why.  If only they could add the brilliantly detailed analysis that Pat Miletich has brought to Strikeforce.

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Maitreyan disciple- June 22, 2009 at 11:48 pm
No postfight props to stevia was a big mistake on Diegos part. He needs to highlight the cure and help jumpstart the stampede.
Dubbayoo- June 22, 2009 at 5:29 pm
@ NetGetsIrate(sometimes): All good. Fighting doesn't solve anything. Er, I mean..
Peppermint Nightmare- June 22, 2009 at 4:22 pm
Ok...seriously....you say I "don't have to like Guida, but at least respect him" and then the next thing you do is trash talk the fuck out of Wilks despite the fact that he DESTROYED your little boyfriend DaMarques Johnson.

What the fuck is your problem with Wilks?
NateGetsIrate- June 22, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Sorry Dubbayoo. Looks like I read that all wrong. I sometimes can get a little, uh... irate.
Dubbayoo- June 22, 2009 at 3:53 pm
@ Mr. NateGetsIrate(Diaz?): I actually scrolled straight to the comment box when read Mr. Just A Wrestler's post, I didn't even see yours until you called me names, which I just read. But on to answering your question and proving that I'm so smart- Rankings. Now be nice. I may be a son of a bitch, but I'm not smug.
NateGetsIrate- June 22, 2009 at 3:35 pm
@ Dubbayoo:

If you're so smart then answer my question you smug son of a bitch.
Truth2Pwr- June 22, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Nate Diaz is sort of this weird unholy love child of Royce Gracie's fighting style & Tank Abbott's attitude. He basically gets muscled around for most of a fight, yet his subs are so slick that you never know when he's gonna pull those gangly legs up and end the fight from his high guard. Of course unlike Royce, he curses his opponents out before, after, and most notably during his fights. Somewhere, Tank is smiling whenever Nate is on the card.
Dubbayoo- June 22, 2009 at 2:47 pm
@ Just A Wrestler: SEE? Told ya!
just some dong- June 22, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Edith's got a touch of the horse face... beautiful cans just can make up for that. Arianny's too hot to approach, like the sun. I'd buy Logan drinks all night if she'd let me.
john t- June 22, 2009 at 1:46 pm
I like Diaz a lot but Nate definitely needs to improve his wrestling or everyone is going to know what to do against him, although I doubt lesser opponents than Stevenson would want to be in his guard. I was actually going for Demarques, I think I bought his bullshit there for a while and thought he was gonna run through Wilkes, but Wilkes actually looked legit. I also liked the outcome of the Sanchez fight, but I hate that it makes me respect Guida now. What are you talking about though Fenix Knight? Edith is busted up looking, Arianny is fucking hot and Logan doesn't look wholesome she looks 12, its gross.
agentsmith- June 22, 2009 at 1:12 pm
@ x FenixKnight x:
-I'm glad Dent beat the shit outta Cameron.

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What fight did you watch? Cameron was fucking OWNING Dent right up until Dent submitted him.

As for the ring girls, I describe them to my wife like this: Edith is the slutty-looking one with big tits... pretty much what you expect a ring girl to look like. Logan is the opposite, pretty and wholesome-looking, totally girl-next-door, skinny and small tits... not what you expect a ring girl to look like at all. And Arianny is somewhere in between.
Spacebump- June 22, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Joe Daddy's boring style belongs on the prelims of any card he is on. Kevin Burns is a foul machine. His score should be -52 for the 3 nut kicks.
Sheps- June 22, 2009 at 12:05 pm
WHO THE HELL IS JOE STEPHENSON!?
MMAMoneyLine- June 22, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Wouldn't mind seeing Guida go to a camp like AKA to get his striking in order. When your wrestling and stamina is at that level, it wouldn't hurt to put them on the backburner in favor of some kickboxing and muay thai polishing.
Welcome to Logan- June 22, 2009 at 11:30 am
I would give it a draw in the mean face competition between Sanchez and Guida.
ScrambledEggs- June 22, 2009 at 11:09 am
Rogan & Goldberg are the absolute worst pair of broadcasters in MMA. I'm sick of watching UFC events with the volume turned down so I can barely fucking hear it, but it's necessary.
Goldberg has been doing this for years and is still as clueless as when he first started.
Rogan on the otherhand steers his commentary towards the guys he and Dana are tight with even if they're getting their ass kicked. Rogan is a completely biased broadcaster in a profession where you are supposed to be impartial.
shartacus- June 22, 2009 at 11:00 am
Rogan and Goldberg are the best duo. With Rogan bringing a good grasp of all the tools used in MMA and Goldberg being the less knowledgeable of the two that newer fans can relate to, they make a good combo. Smart marketing on the UFC's part
NateGetsIrate- June 22, 2009 at 10:55 am
So i get that the numbers are CP's arbitraty value for what a fighter is worth in CP's opinion for a specific event such as this last one... but are this numbers added up elsewhere? Is there an up to date number for each fighter to refer to after each event? For example, for the following fighters, their overall, cumulative (however the fuck that's spelled) value would come out to +1000 for BJ Penn, +800 for KenFlo, and +600 for Sanchez. Is there something like that or are we supposed to base how good a fighter is solely on their last performance?
Just A Wrestler- June 22, 2009 at 10:53 am
@dubbayoo.. what do CP's numbers mean?
831 Son- June 22, 2009 at 10:41 am
Yea DangadaDang that shit was badass.
DangadaDang- June 22, 2009 at 10:39 am
Lytle is the man, I thought he had literally punched Burns' eye through his head when that cut opened up almost instantly
831 Son- June 22, 2009 at 10:33 am
Learn to not write so much FenixKnight.

Joe Rogan is a savage.
x FenixKnight x- June 22, 2009 at 10:16 am
I say Diego gets the next shot with Edgar and Maynard fighting for the next No 1 contendor spot. I think Diego would beat both Maynard and Edgar right now anyway so why bother. BJ and Florian aren't gimmies for him though.

Thoughts on the show

-Diego "Yes" Sanchez is awesome! The fight lived up to the hype.
-Guida has a ton of heart and a granite chin
-Guida did a little square dance in that fight to which Rogan asked "what was that?" lol
-I'm glad Wilks beat the crap outta Duh-Marcus. I hated that guy on the show.
-Wilks has legit skills. I can see him doing some damage in the division.
-I'm glad Dent beat the shit outta Cameron.
-Good W for Joe Daddy though I would have liked for him to mix it up more, going to Jacksons was a great move.
-Nate Diaz is hilarious "Come on Joe, get to work bitch!"
-I hate watching 2 gassed fighters throwing wild bombs hoping for a knockout. Lytle needs to be let go or switch up his training.
-Brock Lesnar looked stupid with the growth on his chin but made me laugh with "worlds nastiest diapers"
-Kimbo will be in the UFC for a good while
-UFC's production keeps getting better and better with each event.
-And finally, if I had to choose which ring girl I would bang first it would be Edith, sorry Arianny. I don't know if she changed her makup around or what but damn she looked gorgeous on Sat. I never thought she had a horse face anyway. She has the best body out of the 3 too. *Boioioioioioiiiiiinnnnnnnnggggg
Dubbayoo- June 22, 2009 at 10:05 am
I bet people are still gonna ask what CP #'s mean. You'll see.
One Two- June 22, 2009 at 9:52 am
diego -104 for yelling YES! YES! YES! over and over like the creepy weirdo he is. and yeah rogan should get docked for excessive twitter talk.
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