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Quote of the Day: Brock Lesnar Retired Because Overeem Was “Just That Much Better Than Me”

In a recent interview given to Jim Rome, Dana White was a little more candid than we have seen when discussing Brock Lesnar’s recent retirement, specifically what was going through the former UFC Heavyweight Champion’s mind moments after becoming permanently incontinent compliments of an Alistair Overeem body kick. “It felt like I got kicked by a horse,” said Lesnar. Ok, so maybe that’s an exaggeration, but White states that Lesnar didn’t see himself taking down “The Reem” anytime soon, figuratively or literally:

The conversations I’ve had with Brock Lesnar since that fight, all indications point to it’s over. … Here’s what Brock said to me, he said ‘I’ll tell you what after my surgery from diverticulitis, this last surgery I had, I have never felt so good in my life.’ He said ‘I’ve had the best camp I’ve ever had, no injuries, I was in great shape, all the things that could go right, went right, that guy is just that much better than me and it’s time for me to retire.

Well, this pretty much seals the deal on that issue. If there were any doubts as to Mr. Lesnar’s heart and true investment in MMA, here you go.

And before you uproar with cries of “The man went through multiple surgeries!” and “You try and fight Overeem!”, please take note that we are not knocking the man for his toughness; anyone who could take the beating that Shane Carwin dealt him in the first round of their title fight back at UFC 116 and come out smiling in the second is surely more badass than anyone who wrote about it. But it seems so disappointing that Lesnar chose to retire when, in his own words, he was the best he ever felt. Whether or not he is truly as healthy as he claims is something we may never know, but considering what a groundbreaking achievement it was for a professional wrestler to be both signed by and be successful in the UFC, it’s a shame that ultimately Lesnar couldn’t break the stereotype that has existed for every professional wrestler who has tried to compete in MMA since; that they’re all just jumping ship, in it for the money. Brock Lesnar didn’t exactly convince us that the theory was ungrounded, especially with this line of reasoning.

Look at it this way, if every fighter retired because they had been beaten by a truly better opponent, what would have become of Rampage Jackson after Wanderlei Silva obliterated him back at PRIDE FC – Final Conflict 23? Surely not the man who, after suffering yet another KO via knees just one year later, would eventually knockout Wandy at UFC 92. THAT’S what separates true fighters from the rest. Desire. Come to think of it, Wanderlei would have ended the career of Kasushi Sakuraba as well, which might have been a good thing. At least he’d be able to remember who his kids are nowadays.

But it’s an issue of the past now, and we’ve already dwelled upon it too much. So we guess we should just be grateful for what Lesnar managed to accomplish, as brief as it may have seemed.


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aj tac- January 14, 2012 at 12:19 pm
Hilarious reading the WWE fans that followed Brock to the UFC and hung on Dana White every word "Lex Lugars MMA". Hopefully they will got back with him.

Yesterday he was the greatest heavy weight of all time and would have smashed an on form Fedor. 3 Months ago Reem was an over hyped fighter from Strike force who shouldn;t be in the top ten! Even a washed up Fedor would take apart Lesnar and we all saw the out come with Reem. Hilarious that these WWE fans had Lesnar smashing the current K1, Dream and Strike force champ. He was destroyed in minutes by fellow wrestler Cain and he was supposed to be much much more superior with this wrestling knowledge. I thinks it well proven now what real true MMA fans where saying all along. Dana has yet again proven hes great at the hype machine. Now this same fans are on Reems D*k.

Lesnar was just a big bully who thought his size would work after the win against Mir. His attitude after that fight was disgraceful for the sport. He soon realised the truth and ate more than a humble piece of pie.
RearNakedBoke- January 13, 2012 at 8:22 pm
"it’s a shame that ultimately Lesnar couldn’t break the stereotype that has existed for every professional wrestler who has tried to compete in MMA since; that they’re all just jumping ship, in it for the money" Minowa, Saku, Barnett......
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Angry Whopper- January 13, 2012 at 8:57 am
I'ma steal a line from a previous CP article: Lesnar loves to beat people up; he doesn't love fighting. That sentence sums it all up. Peel away the BS about Reem roiding or not, Carwin's empty gas tank, the fact that Randy's a gazillion years old, and look at who he's fought and under what conditions. He steamrolled some guys that he damn well should have. Once some valid competitors were arranged, he's been reduced to a can. I agree with the sentiment that Lesnar was a big money grab for the UFC, and that his fighting game wasn't prepared as it needed to be in order to survive in the organization. If he were to continue MMA, I predict he goes the way of Bob Sapp.
Dagnut- January 13, 2012 at 8:46 am
@ Armfarmer he isn't cutting to make HW he used to cut for LHW walked around 220 so he has put on about 30-40lbs he weighed in @ 256 for Lesnar??..look I'm not saying hasn't done steroids but saying steroids made him the fighter he is,is wrong...he has got better through a mixture of increased physical abilities((helped by steroids maybe-- on that note how many of the guys in pride who where "humiliating" him where juicing?))and experience..he has been in the ring 62 times..62...yeah a lot of them where cans but he fights and he fights often...he knows his craft..I was actually impressed by his performance against Werdum, he did what he had too and didn't get drawn in... whether you rate Werdum is debatable but he is he had a loss too him so he was bound to be weary... fighters can improve over time..JDS may be too quick for him with hand speed but Overeem can not be counted out...not a "fan" in particular of any fighter but I'll always fight his corner on this site, where I was shot down inflames for suggesting a couple of years ago that he was a serious contender..there seems to be huge bias against fighters who aren't UFC..even when Hendo lost to Shields it was "he's too old he's finished blah blah" he's back in the UFC he's everyone's hero again.
Overreem had no take down defence and no ground game to speak off in his early often exposed himself when defending take downs or his hands went down to quickly to fakes..reading head movement in MMA and kick boxing are different arts, it's an acquired fairness to him he turned his career around steroids or not and had a plan to get back to the top, he fought in easier promotions re-learnt his trade, got his confidence back and now he's a serious contender...people take different routes to the top
KDHR3TBC- January 13, 2012 at 8:11 am
Taking an unadulterated shot at Sakuraba? Pure class.
Fatty McDickbutts- January 13, 2012 at 7:55 am
@ArmFarmer -- He passed his last two tests (in fact, he's never even failed a test); weighed in SMALLER than Brock, and yet he's a 'roid hog? You're starting to sound like that bitch Josh Gross
ArmFarmer- January 13, 2012 at 6:22 am
dagnut, how many guys have you seen that have excellent muay thai technique that still get dominated and shit on? I didn't say overeem has poor technique, I said he wouldn't be where he is if he didn't juice himself into a cartoon character. Watch his old fights.. he had good striking technique when he got ktfo by lidell, when he tapped to non-fight ending strikes from arona, when he got ktfo while he was literally running away from that blonde dude with the difficult to remember name. He has always had good striking technique, and he still got utterly humiliated every time he fought anyone ranked. He was a lanky lhw that got schooled by any top fighter, then suddenly he's cutting wieght to make hw, his skull has doubled in size, and he's smashing everyone? Gimme a break. He hasn't even had an impressive performance against a legit hw anyway.. and no i don't consider the brock that showed up against him was a legit hw fighter.
google- January 13, 2012 at 5:45 am
so let me get this str8, if a guy retires at a time when you think he can still do more, you questions his heart as a fighter, and if he stays in to long(like tito,wandy,chuck)you question that as well. Is ther a good time for a fighter to go out?
Dagnut- January 13, 2012 at 3:52 am
The article might have held some credence if lesanr had just lost for the first time..but he was completely outclassed by Cain...brushed aside by Overeem he knows he's Dranokills says any decent heavy weight would beat him he was hand fed opponents with no chance of beating thing he is is not is stupid, he knows his stock has dropped dramatically...he wouldn't be getting half the purse for his next's a business...would you work as hard if your salary got cut? would you fuck he knows he won't get as motivated again for a smaller purse and lesser name.....probably the stupidest premise for an article I've ever read on this site...and that's saying something there have been some stinkers...
as for Overeem only being good because of steroids what a crock of shit.. steroids don't give you technique....have a look at that GIF that kick is textbook muay thai..he swivels on the ball of his foot, throws his hips in..kicks like that destroy you... steroids don't teach you that..there is a massive difference being kicked and being kicked by well executed kick...anyone dismissing that kick doesn't understand it.
intercept440- January 12, 2012 at 9:45 pm
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SnackDaddy- January 12, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Lesnar was always afraid of getting hit. You can tell that ever since the Carwin landed a flush punch on his face for the first time and he curled. It showed in his eyes. You can't compete in this sport if you're afraid of getting hurt. Simple as. I'm glad he competed for however long he did. He was a big draw and managed to be in some entertaining fights/rivalries. However, he was never going to be champ again, or fight for the belt for that matter. The days where he could bully his opponents because of his size were over, and the competition was leaving him behind. I'm glad he realized that and chose to retire.
dranokills- January 12, 2012 at 9:08 pm
I do not get where everyone is giving Cock chestner so much credit for heart and toughness. It is a fact he fought an OLD, smaller, weaker champ in randy. he fought the likes of heath herring, and he got lucky against No tank carwin who has been exposed for his weakness, hes not even a top 5 fighter. It's real simple, any heavyweight, of youth, and good skill can and would beat Brock. The only thing Brock could beat are newbie cans. If Brock can't take you down and jack off your face with those hams he calls hands, he has NO other skill than being a big fucking pile of useless muscle. Brock is a quitter, a pussy, and a no talent hack. When the real pressure is on he folds like a house of cards, always has, always will. He has made his money being a freak show, simple as that. I never liked him from day one, and I knew sooner or later a REAL MMA fighter would put him in his place, I am just shocked it took this many beatings to make it clear. He is a mental midget, an antisocial moron, and an all around poor sport...take my ball and go home cunt. Just cause everyone cannot stop talking about him just shows me that everyone likes train wreck, no talents over hard working real MMA fighters. He's gone boys and girls, you can know climb down off his nuts.
edhedicus- January 12, 2012 at 8:11 pm
The worst thing that can happen to a professional fighter is realization of your mortality. Changes your priorities, and suddenly being a badass isn't as important as bouncing your kid on your knee. Enjoy your millions Brock, WAR JDS!!!!
Todd M- January 12, 2012 at 8:00 pm
Lol @ Ghost, CP fights 2012 Ghostboner vs Dicksword, Someones Getting Reemed.
Me likey- January 12, 2012 at 7:11 pm
The bad thing is that Brock lost that fight before he ever got in the cage. He made one half ass takedown attempt and that was his only way to win. He ripped on Cain for playing the striking game with junior and went in and did the same thing with overeem. He is scared to get hit and knows it. That is why he retired. I don't blame him though. If your scared then your scared
Drewimus- January 12, 2012 at 7:04 pm
I really wish Danga would put his name at the TOP of his posts, so I would know better than to waste a minute of my life reading it.
Punchthedonky- January 12, 2012 at 6:06 pm
@steampunk22 I totally agree!

@skeletor Just go away!
steampunk22- January 12, 2012 at 4:55 pm
What a terrible fucking post.
dignan- January 12, 2012 at 4:41 pm
ArmFarmer: You're moronic if you think The Muscle Shark and Big Lez didn't/don't/haven't juiced.

I do agree how mediocre and non-intimidating Overeem was earlier in his career.
XENOPHON- January 12, 2012 at 4:36 pm
RECORD: Brock Lesnar, Hall of Fame:
Coming off the street, it only took me 4 fights to win the UFC Heavy Title.
You know, the UFC, the same promotion who still claims they have the very best fighters in the world.
Horse Renoir- January 12, 2012 at 4:22 pm
I'm glad he retired when he did. I love Lesnar, but I'll admit he wasn't the best. He was good, just not great. Like, Tito... except he knew when his time was up and accepted it.

Thing is, people question Brock's desire and his health after the diverticulitis, but they kinda forget about all the punishment his body went through when he was a pro-wrestler.

Night after night of pain and injuries. He admitted he was poppin' pills and drinking a bottle of vodka every night when he was on the road.

When he started MMA, his body had already passed it's prime, but his mind didn't realise it until he lost to Overeem.
RwilsonR- January 12, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Well said ArmFarmer on both your posts.
HandsofGold- January 12, 2012 at 3:57 pm
It was only a matter of time before he was on his way back to where he came from. Meanwhile in other news.....
ArmFarmer- January 12, 2012 at 3:55 pm
If any of you are only familiar with the current overeem, I strongly encourage you to check out "alistair overeem ultimate lowlight highlight reel" to see what a bitch he can be. I don't think sherk juiced, I don't think brock juiced, but I am convinced overeem is only successful because of drugs. It sure aint his heart, but when you are a godamn Juggernaut you don't really need heart.