
From 411Mania via BloodyElbow. Behold, the lament of a broken man:
“The question it all comes down to for me is, is there a market for MMA? Now coming from the boxing world, when I first saw MMA I didn’t like it. I didn’t enjoy watching it. I found it boring and when it wasn’t boring I found it grotesque. Now what I had to do was learn about it. I had to learn more. I had to learn the moves, the players, the disciplines and the different camps and what they meant. The more I learned about it the more I found I enjoyed it and the more I could appreciate the strategies and I have found that for the most part, the fan base out there doesn’t have a clue. Not a clue what they’re seeing, not a clue what they’re watching and therefore they’re almost uniformly attracted to the UFC light show. The dancing girls, the music, the UFC brand and the spectacular job the UFC’s done in creating that brand…
I sincerely question whether or not there is a market place for legitimate MMA outside of the UFC. Now if you look at the card we had at the IZOD center that was spectacular. That was as good as MMA fighting ever gets and it didn’t make a blip on the radar screen. It was difficult selling tickets, the Monday morning reviews of the event were the fights were spectacular but the place wasn’t very full. What does one do to grow the audience? What does one do to sell tickets besides putting on the best show you could possibly put on? And when you put that show on and you still can’t sell tickets well then you have to ask yourself does the public want this? Do they really want fights? Do they want mixed martial arts? Do they want competition at the highest level of the sport? Or do they want to run around wearing their Affliction t-shirts and swigging Xyience. What is this really about? Is there really a fan base for this or is it a cult? And I’ll tell you, as truthfully as I can, I don’t know the answer.”
— Jay Larkin, CEO of the International Fight League
Well, first off, contempt for the audience will get you nowhere — and I’m not sure that the IFL’s fanbase has a smaller percentage of Affliction-wearing, Xyience-swilling meatheads than the UFC’s. Larkin may eventually be proven correct that there’s no mainstream market for MMA outside of the UFC, but I don’t think the failure of the IFL should be held up as proof of his thesis. I can’t speak for the general public, but as an MMA fan, I’ve been excited about recent fights held in the WEC, Strikeforce, EliteXC, and DREAM in a way that I’ve never really felt for matches held in the IFL. I get the sense that a lot of other MMA fans feel the same way, and for me, the reason is because the IFL never succeeded in promoting and building individual stars. EliteXC is Kimbo Slice and Gina Carano. WEC is Urijah Faber. Strikeforce is Frank Shamrock and Cung Le. The IFL, on the other hand, is a questionable camp system where no single fighter is given more attention then his legendary coach. Larkin seems to think that solid matchups between up-and-comers should have been enough to make his league marketable. Am I a fake MMA fan for thinking that personalities create interest, not just talent?
— Ben Goldstein








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commentsI think his depiction of the UFC is just a straw man argument that has nothing to do with the UFC. How does "dancing girls" and a "light show" at all describe the UFC. Much closer to Pride, if you ask me. Then he goes on to beat that straw man down without ever addressing the real reasons why people prefer the UFC.
Larkin says that his last show was "as good as MMA fighting ever gets", but that is far from the truth. That is like wondering why nobody watches the WNBA, because the president of that orginazation feels it is as good as basketball gets.
I don't mean to insult IFL fighters, but most are not anywhere near the top ten in their respective weight classes. That means they aren't really in the top 50 - 70 fighters in the entire sport. Nobody complains that all of the audience is busy watching Roger Federer beat Andy Roddick on center court at Wimbledon, when they should be watching some pre-lim qualifying match at a small tournament between the #62 ranked player and the #74 ranked player on the pro tournament, because that is "as good as tennis gets."
It takes personality and ability to get noticed, but most of it is ability. And the UFC has managed to get the most fighters with the best abilities. Nobody wants to watch something equivalent of semi-pro. When a few other leagues manage to get top ranked fighters, their buzz increases, as well.
Maybe Larkin should consider his inferior product before blaming his failure on an audience entranced by pretty lights.
And it isn't the IFL that names the teams, it is the gym that names the teams. Militech named his team the Silverbacks, not Jay Larkin.
I have always watched and enjoyed the IFL since it began. But on all the boards all I see is people who don't watch it because they don't like it. But that is just wrong. How can you not like something if you haven't ever seen it? Yet people jump all over the new "DREAM" promotion, even though it is on the OTHER SIDE OF THE PLANET. You get to watch a crappy stream at 4am. I'd rather support a LOCAL promotion, one that puts on shows places I can see it live, or that I can watch LIVE on my HDTV. A 2"x2" video stream just isn't my cup of tea.
I watch all the MMA I can get my eyes on. And still I don't know half the fighters names, whether it be in the UFC, EXC, or IFL. And in MMA it is something like a risky game putting too much stock on one fighter, because they can get injured pretty easily, ie. Chuck Liddel, Shogun, and the long list of other big name fighters who constantly kill your UFC main event by getting hurt. The IFL lets the fighting speak for itself. True fans of MMA would realize this, instead of looking for the"charcter" or "drama" that they miss because they stopped wacthing wrastlin'. The "fans" who boo when a fight goes to the ground are the same "fans" that are going to bury the IFL, EXC, and any other organization that isn't the UFC or sponsored by Affliction.
I think it's telling that the IFL has been around for, what, two years or so, and they're basically throwing up their hands and blaming the public for their failures. As if, well, we tried this one approach and it didn't work so we're all out of ideas. Instead of looking inward and trying to figure out where they're going wrong, Larkin would rather point the finger at fans, the people he needs most. He doesn't understand us and he can't see why we're not lining up to give him our money. What's worse, he can't see that those two things are connected.
It took David Stern's insight in promoting the characters - Larry Bird, Magic Johnson, Michael Jordan - to make it the international sport it is today. You're absolutely right you need to market the stars - guys like Kimbo sell tickets and appeal beyond the hardcore MMA fans.
...but not being up on stuff like that is exactly the point: the IFL doesn't suffer from lack of talent, it suffers from extremely poor marketing decisions. it's painful to watch them misuse their money.
they have tons of up-and-comers (there are three IFL guys in TUF this season) and some great personalities, but they're having trouble simply letting people get to know them... i'm sure a lot of this stems from not having any good TV deals, but a lot of the rest of it stems from not understanding MMA fans and what we want - and that much is clear from larkin's comments.
How many of you have seen people write off a great fight as nothing special because they didn't recognize the fighters??
But here's a suggestion..PLEASE get rid of the looney toon team names and logos! I mean, when they first stepped on the scene and I saw the "Flaming Dragons" vs. "Big Moose Heads", I thought: "What the hell is this shit! Is WWE makin it's move to MMA."
Even though I've watched very few fights, and there were even less that were actually entertaining.
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