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Relive the Magic of Wandy-Page, Plus Five Reasons Why The Third Fight Is Completely Different

(Pride Final Conflict, 11/9/03)

If you’re like us, then those ESPN hype videos for Rampage-Wandy III at UFC 92 only aroused your appetite for destruction.  Might as well go back in time and look at how it played out.  Above is their first meeting.  Fight number two (with some of those crafty Fox Sports Net edits) is after the jump.  But only a fool believes that the fighters we see in these videos are the same exact ones we’ll see next Saturday night, and you aren’t a fool, are you?

Here are five variables to take into account when trying to predict the outcome of the third meeting:

1. Change of Camps: While Silva came to America to train, Jackson left.  Now Wanderlei is running around a converted warehouse in Las Vegas with a snorkel in his mouth and "Rampage" is over in England grab-assing with the Wolfslair.  We’ve seen Silva in action since relocating, and he looked good against Keith Jardine, but the jury’s still out on Jackson’s new crew.

2. Mind Games: Let’s be honest, no one knows for sure what’s going on in ‘Page’s head these days.  He’s had a rough few months, and now he has to fight a guy who’s knocked him out twice.  Everyone wants to see if Jackson still has his wits about him.  Either the pressure will elevate his game, or crack him like an egg.

3. New Rules: No kicks to the head on the ground, no yellow cards, no ropes to get caught up in, no fortuitious tournament draws.  The playing field is undoubtedly more level for this meeting.  That should benefit Jackson, but knees in the clinch haven’t gone away.

4. Experience, Even the Bad Kind:
The last time they fought was four years ago, and they’ve both been through a lot since then.  Jackson gained and lost a title.  Silva took a few beatings, which he had grown very unaccustomed to doing, and had to build himself back up.  Jackson is certainly more skilled than he was in his Pride days, and Silva may just be more punchy.  His head even seems to have become a different shape, and his speech, well, nevermind.  Could the beatdowns be piling up at this point?

5. The Glare of the Spotlight:
To say this fight is more high profile than either of the first two is an understatement.  The sport itself is much bigger, and after Rampage’s TMZ appearance he’s nothing short of a celebrity.  You could argue that this is the fight more people will remember, since many MMA fans of today have only heard about the first two.  Whether that factor favors either fighter is anyone’s guess.

(Check out fight number two, slightly trimmed down)

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Mac- December 27, 2008 at 10:00 am
I think you guys are sleeping too much on Rampage. Wandy is no joke, but Page has learned a lot since those two fights. Wandy is not going to get away with a lot like in the last two fights and is going to get frustrated b/c he can't.

If Page isn't scared coming in...I give the win to him.
Anonymous- December 20, 2008 at 10:31 pm
i think silva might actually be sucessful at getting his knees through rampage's head in this fight it might be the best christmas present ever.

Jeff- December 20, 2008 at 10:00 pm
Wanderlei is on an upswing. His killer instinct is in full bloom. Rampage's head is not in any shape for him to have the focus it will require to keep up with Wanderlei's attack. Wandy has already beaten him twice. Rampage looked terrible in his last fight (and worse so since then), while Wandy demolished a title contender in less than a minute. It's a no brainer people.

Wandy will win by TKO in the first round. I have a feeling that the first time Wandy clinches he's going to throw the knees just to see where everything stands since their last fight, and nothing will have changed. Whatever strategy Rampage hoped to use will fail and Wandy will fuck his shit up with knee after knee. I predict it will happen shockingly fast, within the first minute, such is my confidence in The Axe Murderer.

Wandy by TKO, 56 seconds into the fight.
Calvin P- December 20, 2008 at 5:52 pm
Jackson fought like a fool the last 2 fights he got with wandy. I meant, lean downward against a guy who loves to use his knees upward? What strategy was that? Where were his front to keep the opponent at bay? wai-a-min..Page ain't got no front kicks. He 's kinda hesitate to to exchange punches and that played into Wandy 's game...Change his game plans Page might have a chance. But I heard he drinks like a fish. Alcohol won't make you a better fighter no matter who you are. As much as I like Page, I think the fight will go to Wandy, unless the drastic change in Page's game and tactics
JPFighter- December 20, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Man, I love that 2nd fight! The only thing that will suck in the 3rd fight is that Rampage won't be able to collapse between the ropes! We'll have to settle for Rampage bouncing off the cage or the canvas when Silva KO's his sorry ass. Go Wandy!
just some dong- December 20, 2008 at 11:51 am
I'd say 'page can only win by outwrastlin' silva (i refuse to call him wandy, and you should too), but UFC is standing guys up more and more these days, and I don't think they'll let Crazy Black get away with that in this fight. I hope they don't anyway, 'cuz I want another funny knockout.

but malannon, what's this about 'page/chuckers II ending in early stoppage? There's no argument to make there. Chuck crumpled and was getting hammered on the mat. I guess they could have let it go on a little longer but come on, chuck was done.
Shogun Rua- December 20, 2008 at 11:25 am
should have been me who fight black wolfman gain. That true rematch! Silva beat im 2 time. WTF Joe Silva think!

Seriously, when the fuck have you ever heard of a trilogy when a guy has won both times! I mean, it wasnt even close BOTH TIMES!!!!!!!

iNSTEAD we get to see Shogun vs. Coleman?!?!?!?! UFC better get their shit straight
Anonymous- December 20, 2008 at 4:39 am
Rampage in first round with knees
Ghost of Sparta- December 20, 2008 at 3:13 am
This is the last time we will hear Rampages faggot howling!
Wanderlei is going to murder him.
poopers- December 20, 2008 at 12:05 am
you have no idea what your talking about. the only way you could put soft and wandi in the same sentence is if you are talking about his opponents scull fragments. he just beat the living shit out of kieth jardine, he is making his wayback up. After he beats rampage for the third time he should get a crack at the belt.
Wildcard- December 19, 2008 at 1:48 pm
Cagepotato great points you guys have made here let me give you the bottomline:

Rampage's Achilles heel; Wandy's brutality , aggresiveness, and killer/relentless pace.

He just can't deal with him is why he will never beat him unless Rampage uses a Monster truck just ask the lady he hit it with.
Malannon- December 19, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Neogetter02 gets the "person of the day award."
Smackdaddiest1- December 19, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Cage or no cage Wandy is gonna stomp Page's guts out....

The knees haven't gone away, it was a knee that put Jardine on the road to misery.

War Silva!
Neogetter02- December 19, 2008 at 12:51 pm
SPOT ON Malannon
watch the video!!- December 19, 2008 at 12:48 pm
I don't remember at the end of which round it was, but rampage almost had Wandy however he was saved by the bell.

I don't see y everyone is counting rampage out... his stand up has greatly improved and if he training at the wolfslair now, im sure hes improving his own thai plum game or at least a good defense to it... i would say thats bisping special, im sure he could show rampage a thing or two about it.

anyways im on rampages side cause hes the underdog and he has a good chance of waffle-stomping wandys face... that and i hope he gets his head back on straight.
Jeffro- December 19, 2008 at 12:04 pm
Wanderlei will stomp a mudhole in his ass. I love how ruthless he is in the ring. He has killer primal instinct.

Rampage doesn't stand a chance.
CubicalGangster- December 19, 2008 at 11:54 am
i still get chills every time i see that knockout.

one other thing that could be a gigantic factor is the Cage itself. Both of these dudes have neve met in this kind of setting before which will most certainly change the outcome.

but fuck it, Wandy will dominate!! whoooo

Malannon- December 19, 2008 at 11:54 am
One more thing:

If Forrest's win of 'Page was bullshit, than Rampage/Iceman II was an early stoppage.
Pick your battles.
Malannon- December 19, 2008 at 11:49 am


Rampage LOST to Forrest. He LOST 3 of 5 rounds. He LOST his belt. Then he LOST his mind. Playing the blame game because nobody got knocked out is a bullshit argument.

Wandi wins and 'Page drops to 3-2 in his UFC run. End of story.

I'd like to see Jackson beat up Brandon Vera, that would be AWESOME.
Anonymous- December 19, 2008 at 11:47 am
I think no matter how vicious Rampage is, Wandi is still more of an animal. As soon as Rampage loses momentum, he starts to think too much and Wandi will have an opening to lay him out than. Either way it goes, it will be a great bout.
drewplate- December 19, 2008 at 11:44 am
"Slightly trimmed down?" If that's what you call that, I hope you won't be doing any circumcisions....
fftankr- December 19, 2008 at 11:38 am
wandi wanted to fuck chuck, and turns out he got fucked up. now he just says he dislikes ramp. wandi's gotten soft, but he's a damn good snorkler i'd bet. ramps gotta run him over, (no pun intended) he just has to, his decison to forrest was bull.
Whitey- December 19, 2008 at 11:37 am
If Rampage wins will they fight agin kind of a best of 5 thing? Its also a shame that the jardine fight didnt go on for longer so we could really gauge where Silva is right now.
Geriatric Peon- December 19, 2008 at 11:29 am
I like the ninja gaiden style music after the second fight. UFC needs to use more midi style music.
Geriatric Peon- December 19, 2008 at 11:28 am
Rich, the knees may have finished the second fight but Rampage was dazed after the right hook so he couldn't defend the knees. If he gets dazed like that again from a punch I would bet you will see knees from Silva.