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Report: Dos Santos Asked for and Was Denied Fight With Velasquez; Could Fight Roy Nelson Next


(Junior "The Dream Crusher" Dos Santos)

According to a report by Guilherme Cruz on Tatame.com, fast-rising UFC heavyweight contender Junior Dos Santos made a request to UFC brass to face Cain Velasquez in his next fight, and was flatly denied.

Feeling that a bout between himself and his American championship contender counterpart would help to clarify which of the pair is first in line at a shot at the winner of the July tilt between Shane Carwin and current heavyweight kingpin Brock Lesnar, Cigano figured the UFC would agree with his view that the fight made  sense and would ensure they both stayed busy in the interim.

Apparently the UFC didn’t agree, and now both fighters sit in holding pattens waiting for the promotion to sort out their somewhat blurry heavyweight title picture, unsure when they will fight again.


*WARNING* Poorly translated Portugese below.

“They don’t want to set a fight with Velasquez, for now it’s not [of] interest for them. I was hoping for this fight because it makes total sense, but they don’t want it now… let’s wait and see," said Cigano, with no clue of the date of his comeback on UFC. "There are a lot of names I could confront, but I really don’t have a clue of who will it be my next opponent."

Dos Santos says that one name that has been mentioned is that of last season’s winner of The Ultimate Fighter, former IFL heavyweight champ Roy Nelson — an opponent he would relish the opportunity to square off against.

“He has shown he’s a very embattled fighter, is in a good moment on UFC and actually said he wanted to fight me… If it’s him or not, I don’t care.. I’ll be prepared to fight with whoever my opponent is and make it a good fight”, said, dreaming with the chance of winning. “I’m in a very good position and in a very special time on my career and, if that’s what God wants, I’ll have this opportunity to fight for the belt."

It makes sense that the UFC doesn’t want to destroy one of their top two heavyweight contenders before he has a chance to vie for the title, but protecting them  by letting them sit inactive for what could potentially be a November title bout would do more harm than good.

The conundrum is, if you give them a fight in the meantime to ensure they both remain active, who do you have them fight? 

If you give either of them a dark horse like Nelson, who could very well pull off an upset victory, where does that leave them in the grand scheme of things if they lose?

The last time they did that, Nate Marquardt‘s title hopes were left for dead in a ditch by the side of the road while Chael Sonnen walked away in his shoes on the path to a shot at Anderson Silva.

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Howie214- April 26, 2010 at 1:57 pm
no one wants to see big country nelson fight! jds vs velasquez, in my opinion, is just as an intriguing matchup as lesnar/carwin. never before can i remember any heavyweight divison being this loaded with top contenders. and instead of ufc giving the people what we want. you drag this thing out with the "big country" nelson's of the world! we need a heavyweight tournament with big nog, gonzaga, carwin, lesnar, fedor, jds, velasquez, and Mariusz Pudzianowski! that would be cool!!!
Merlin- April 26, 2010 at 1:48 pm
I agree with Dude
A good fighter coming off an "easy" fight, should fight at least 3-5 times a year. If not for the fans and ring rust at least for himself to earn a decent living etc.
Get Off Me- April 26, 2010 at 1:25 pm
JDS > Cain for #1 contender spot....Their records speak for themselves.....JDS finishes fights and is exciting to watch..... I don't subscribe to the whole JDS v Cain can't happen because it will take away two top contenders, WTF is that? How do we find number 1 conteders then? Look at the WW division, one minute "we need to have Kos and Fitch fight" next minute at HW "we can't have Cain v JDS" seriously, this is the elite league......Give Nelson v. Mir and Cain v. JDS on the same card(loser fights loser, winner fights winner down the road) let Carwin/Brock happen, and take the fallout of the above mentionned fights to find your number one contender.....no more of this we can't let two guys fight because we don't want one to lose their "momentum" or "status" or whatever.

Kimbos Bread- April 26, 2010 at 1:25 pm
HW ranking as it stands right now based on the caliber of their fights:

Carwin
JDS
Brock
CV
Mir
Kongo
Nelson


The next fight for CV will likely be with an easier opponent so Dana can Market MMA to the Latin American community.
budsellers- April 26, 2010 at 1:24 pm
ufc is doing the right thing by waiting for the outcome of carwin-lesnar. velasquez makes most sense as a replacement for july 3rd.

besides which, cain deserves the shot after beating nogueira, and, after seeing the results of his campmates who have recently fought while waiting for title shots, cain probably prefers waiting for his shot.
Ascerendant- April 26, 2010 at 1:17 pm
The recent trend in unfunny captions can have only one reason: Mike Russel instead of BF. This needs to change! Get on it, Newbie!!!111 ;)
ccman- April 26, 2010 at 12:40 pm
@Dude - Because we have athletic commissions and doctors (apparently unlike Japan) and they limit how often they will license fighters to guarantee untracable brain damage you are pretty much guaranteed to incur ha healing time. Keeping in mind we know concussions happen on a lower level than we can diagnos and repeating the trauma has a building and residual effect. Most commissions require a 2-3 month layoff.

it extends the fighters shelf life considerably (look at most ex-pride fighters who were fighting every month to 2 months, they are abnormally aged like Big Nog, even Rampage looks nothing like he used too) I want more fights also but kinda like knowing I will see the fighter in a few years also.
dude- April 26, 2010 at 12:29 pm
...and that's another thing! These long fight lay-offs! Why aren't they making these guys fight sooner...like they've been doing with Josh Koscheck?!? I say if fighters leave the cage unscathed after a battle, set them up for another fight in 2-3 months
dude- April 26, 2010 at 12:26 pm
I agree with 'Merlin', the UFC really put a horrible match-up together with Silva vs Maia. They owe us a good fight! Dos Santos vs Velasquez! I'm a fan of both (i'm hispanic myself) but I think Dos Santos has the power and skills to fight the bigger guys. He'd probably crush Cain (Sorry homie)
justscrappin- April 26, 2010 at 12:24 pm
I could get down on a JDS vs. Mir bout....I'm sure Mir wouldn't be pleased...lol. I don't even know why they would setup the Kongo fight...we all know that Nelson's grappling is enough to beat him. Other then that...it sucks Cain has to sit around for at least 3 months after...around oct or nov. to fight the winner of Lesnar/Carwin. I would definitely of liked to see JDS vs. Cain...and just cuz one loses doesn't take them out of contention...we all know styles make fights...and they both pose different problems for their opponents.
cecils_pupils- April 26, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Nice ccman - now that makes sense: Dos Santos vs. Mir.

Eventually we will see JDS vs. Cain but now is not the time. The next 2 years are gonna be super exciting for the HW division with some epic match-ups on the way.
Cock_Chestnar- April 26, 2010 at 12:19 pm
He just wants Cain because his mentor Nog got his ass handed to him by Cain.

There's only one way to settle this......JDS vs. Big Nog! Eat it Soares!
superflat- April 26, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Eh, it wouldn't hurt the UFC at all if Nelson beat Dos Santos. Nelson's more marketable, being fat and able to speak English. Maybe throw Valasquez on TUF or something in the meanwhile.
ccman- April 26, 2010 at 12:01 pm
Dunno if JDS is ready for brown pride either. He just beat the gatekeeper so a step up is definitely in order (if you can not beat GG you are not getting main card love... sorry)
Plus not sure he can sell PPV's, though doubt it.

Maybe toss him Mir...... see if he has it and would expose him better.
Fedor Penn- April 26, 2010 at 11:59 am
JDS isn't fighting Nelson, Kongo is. Cain and JDS will both smash Brock if they ever fought him.
Mr_Misanthropy- April 26, 2010 at 11:55 am
I'm also curious- is the UFC being managed by Ed Soares lately? They seem to be exhibiting the qualities of a bored champ who has had the belt too long and takes it for granted. Its like they are more concerned with their legacy than the fights in front of them, what with the expansion into inner-Mongolia, TUF Indonesia, and Dana White's Public Service Fights to clothe the naked and feed the homeless. Please don't shelter your prospects, they are gonna have to be tested at some point anyways. Remember how you guys got to the top because you were hungry and you had something to prove? Remember how (just last year) you only wanted to make the best fights that make sense? Remember how all of your competition keeps failing because they don't?
Viva Hate- April 26, 2010 at 11:51 am
JDS vs Nelson is interesting but of course everyone would rather see him face Cain, much more excitement around that fight, that would also be a great #1 contender fight, the lose could face Mir to get back in the title picture, it sets up a whole new path that would be great for fans to see and this way no one is sitting out for a while.

That being said, put this fight on the 118 card in Boston, the card already has Penn v. Edgar, Florian v. Maynard, and rumoed Couture v. Toney, this would make the card pretty stacked and interesting.
BuckWild- April 26, 2010 at 11:47 am
I see why they wouldn't do this. They need to keep "new" title contenders for whoever is the champ. Stop throwing the same 3 guys at the title shot.

Also. JDS could drop to LHW or a catch weight and fight anyone. Win or lose at a non-heavy fight would be good filler for him. Cain for that matter could do the same. There should be enough time for either of them to regain the weight back. I say a super fight with Randy for either at a 215 catch weight would be awesome !
gameface- April 26, 2010 at 11:46 am
@ctown... ha! i actually was going to throw a legit post afterwards, delivery guy showed up and i got distracted by cheeseburgers. anyway... no way that match up could happen right now, dana would be blowing his wad to early...not many people really in contention.. just JDS and Cain. so its smart to have cain fight the winner, and toss someone else in JDS's direction in the meantime. who knows, if JDS loses his next it could really stir up the division...which is by far the stalest in the UFC presently
Mr_Misanthropy- April 26, 2010 at 11:45 am
*not first*

I wish these wacky Brazilian's would lay off the Jesus juice. Dana White, Joe Silva, or any of the other palooka heads in the UFC should never be referred to as "God".
Cock_Chestnar- April 26, 2010 at 11:44 am
I thought Cain was supposed to take the place of Carwin if Shane got injured before his "real" title fight. If that is the case, JDS has to get in line.

Plus, the rumour is that Kongo is getting Nelson at UFC 116.
Kid Clam Curtains- April 26, 2010 at 11:43 am
The UFC is in a tough spot in the HW division right now. There are 3 legit badasses in similar positions (JDS, Carwin, Velasquez). I don't blame dana for trying to keep the top prospects from fighting each other right away. That will keep a steady stream of legit prospects lined up to challenge for the belt for the foreseeable future.
ctownhood- April 26, 2010 at 11:38 am
@gameface - Thanks for the insight...you brought a lot to the table

Can't really blame the UFC for not matching them up at this point. I say give them both a very "winnable" fight, to keep them both active until their shot.
Merlin- April 26, 2010 at 11:37 am
That's dumb JDS and "Brown Pride" would be a fight for the fans!
And aren't fans what drive the sport?
Talk about bad match ups it seems that's what the UFC has been doing more of recently vis-à-vis Anderson Silva vs Demian Maia.
fACE7biter- April 26, 2010 at 11:37 am
Speaking of fighters sitting inactive, Shane Carwin's recent title winning fight with Frank Mir came almost a year after his knockout of Gabriel Gonzaga. Having the year between fights seemed to do him plenty of good, as he came in sharper than he's ever been. I agree with the UFC here. Make Cain the #1 contender to LEsnar/Carwin, and have Junior fight again. If Junior picks up a win, make him the #1 contender to whoever wins Lesnar/Carwin Vs. Cain.
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