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Report: At Some Point Brock Lesnar Thought it Would be Smart to Learn the ‘Fundamentals of Punching’

(“What you don’t seem to understand, *Pat*, is that our reliance on Lockean liberalism is precisely what’s allowed America to live under this guise of exceptionality that leads us to deny our own history in the name of social order. Look, go read some Louis Hartz and then we’ll talk.” PicProps: @DCBrockLesnar)

Those of you who’ve been keeping up with “UFC Primetime” have likely already noticed two things: 1) Visiting sparring partner Pat Barry is far and away the most engaging and interesting (read: smartest) personality inside Brock Lesnar’s DeathClutch gym. 2) Yeah, it’s a little weird for Barry to be training with Lesnar leading up to his UFC 121 clash with Cain Velasquez. Somehow I just don’t see those two guys having compatible personalities. Nonetheless, Barry’s status as an invited guest at DeathClutch is another clear indicator that The Dark Lord is making an effort to get his leather together in the striking department. That endeavor, according to a recent article in the Boston Herald, has also included a second straight training camp with noted boxing coach Peter Welch.

“I never learned just the basics in boxing,” Lesnar explains. “I wanted to go get a grassroots boxing coach to get my feet underneath me, to try to combine my wrestling positions and mold into a boxing stance, and just lower myself and learn to punch from my feet to my hands. And so he’s been a huge help — just being able to understand the fundamentals of punching.”

Also, this is yet another situation that underscores how totally awesome it is to be Brock Lesnar. Here’s a guy who was already UFC heavyweight champion by the time he thought to himself, “Hey, you know what? I should learn a little bit of this crazy boxing stuff that everybody else is doing.” Must be nice.

That’s the glass-half-full outlook, I suppose. The glass-half-empty point of view, of course, is that Lesnar looked so unbelievably shitty on his feet against Shane Carwin at UFC 116 that be better take steps to shore up his striking game. Otherwise some axe-grinding internet blogger might suggest on his for-profit website that the only thing Velasquez will have to do to win this fight is stuff a couple of Lesnar’s takedowns.

Though it might seem counterintuitive, Lesnar tells that Herald that he actually gained self-confidence after weathering the storm from Carwin and coming back to win by arm triangle choke early in the second round. At least we know now that the champ’s got a pretty decent beard on him (yes, nerdy pun totally intended).

“I think it’s just a confidence thing,” Lesnar said. “You bang around in the gym and you’ve got 18, 20 ounce gloves on and you can take a punch in the gym, but up until the Carwin fight . . . there was always some question mark in my mind, I guess.”

Speaking of stuffing takedowns, it seems interesting that – according to WWE announcer/exec and total Lesnar mark Jim Ross, by way of our friends at Bloody Elbow – Lesnar has already slimmed down to 265 for this bout. That means he won’t have to cut any weight, but he also won’t enjoy the monster weight advantage over Velasquez we were anticipating. It appears now that when Cain and Brock get in the cage together, Lesnar will likely outweigh him by 20-25 pound instead of closer to 30-40.

Naturally, Ross assures us that coming in a bit lighter than normal won’t have a single negative consequence for Lesnar.

“I see this as good for Lesnar fans because already being at the required fighting weight will prevent Brock from having to tweak his diet or training regime prior to the fight in Anaheim,” Ross says. “Even though Lesnar will fight lighter than he originally fought in UFC, the former WWE Champion, NCAA All American and National Champion is still beastly strong which could be a key factor in his next encounter in the Octagon. Point is that Lesnar has lost no strength with his lesser weight plus Brock’s cardio, one would assume, will be enhanced by not having to carry so much mass."

Hmmmm. I guess. Maybe. Still, if I were a Lesnar fan who believed the key to this fight would be Brock’s ability to put Velasquez on his back, I wouldn’t feel great about trading that size advantage for some assumed gains in speed and possibly cardio, which had never been a problem for Brock in the past anyway. Will it matter? Guess we’ll find out. File this latest development alongside the growing list of unknowns that already make this bout too close to call.

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MoTropolis- October 19, 2010 at 10:48 am
According to Wiki, his restaurant closed in 2010. At least now you dont have to go to the shit hole I imagine Oklahoma to be.
RaginAsian- October 19, 2010 at 12:01 am
You white boys are hilarious. Hating Cain for being proud of his parents for overcoming adversity, being outspoken about his heritage, and acting like he needs your white approval. Lawl.

He's a humble, well-rounded fighter who's realistic and critical of his own performances while improving with each one. What more do you want?

Some people are proud of their race. Get over it.


I've been to his restaurant. It's ridiculously good bbq. I recommend the loaded nachos and/or ribs.
fatbellyfrank- October 18, 2010 at 11:57 pm
@JaredB, Im with you on this, I always found him to be entertaining and knowledgable, and If I ever make it stateside, I'm definitely visiting his BBQ restaraunt
JaredB- October 18, 2010 at 8:42 pm
Also, Jim Ross hasn't been a WWE announcer in a year and hasn't been a WWE executive in like..half a decade. I do not believe he has any contract or employment status with the organization at all.

He's enthusiastic and knowledgeable about MMA and has a likable personality and credibility with people who know him from his 80s/90s heyday. If Bellator or Strikeforce hired him to fix their awful booths you'd instantly notice a huge leap in the quality of their broadcasts.
JaredB- October 18, 2010 at 8:31 pm
Lesnar's boxing is more solid than most heavyweight mixed martial artists. He's a terrific athlete and a natural at anything he tries. Cain is really screwed.
choncho- October 18, 2010 at 6:59 pm
Surprised how many people think Cain is gonna win. I think Carwin would destroy him and we saw how lesnar handled him.
MoTropolis- October 18, 2010 at 5:57 pm
I do lost my shit when I read burrito's oatmeal comment. Well Done sir.
djp1988- October 18, 2010 at 5:36 pm
Brock Lesnar is morphing into Ernest Hemingway.
fatbellyfrank- October 18, 2010 at 5:13 pm
And this is gonna be a fucken great fight, Oh and I just got a new tattoo in honour of my skin colour, I'm rocken a sweet badass "Quite Freckly Pride" tat across the top of my chest, I'm reppin all of us who dont tan very well and have to smother ourselves in sunscreen every time we go to the beach

WAR long sleeve shirts and floppy sunhats FTW
fatbellyfrank- October 18, 2010 at 5:09 pm
El Famous Burrito Says:
Tue, 10/19/2010 - 05:26
@Fried Taco

I like my women like I like my oatmeal.

With my dick in them.

Wait, what?
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah....muthafucka, I got coffee all over my keyboard and the office thinks I just had a heart attack,LMFAO dude
agentsmith- October 18, 2010 at 3:41 pm
That photo looks like Brock's been eating too much of Cain's dad's cooking. Dude, you know your guts can't handle that spicy shit no more, cut it out!

I love how the whole "first Mexican HW champ" storyline meshes awesomely with Brock's uber-honkeyness. It's Brown Pride vs Aryan cartoon superhero, you ya got?!
Ballkick- October 18, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Brock will do what Brock does best,.....Run someone over like a behind schedule Greyhound bus,....lay,...and bunny-punch his victim til Josh Rosenthal stops the fight....... Josh will be reffing this one,.. trust me.

On the whole Brown Pride thing, We here in Canada have another ethnic group spouting their "Brown Pride",....mostly East Indians and Pakistanis.
Just for the record most of them are involved in some sort of Gang-related group, not saying it's the "Rule",....just the "Norm."

I have but one thing to say about the "Brown, Black, White, Yellow, or Red Pride posers"

Be modest! It is the kind of pride least likely to offend.
Kimbos Bread- October 18, 2010 at 3:16 pm
@ ashkenaziTROLL

The cancer...

What a boring world this would be if we all looked the same, talked the same, and had the same beliefs and practices.

Like a cancer cell, a racist deserves to be immersed into a sea of his own identical clones where pointlessness will consume his very livelihood until their collective hatred kills the very host their existence depends on.

/Newmanesque rant.
DazedNConfused- October 18, 2010 at 2:53 pm
lol I think when he said Dagnut at the beginning of his post he was referring to Dagnut not TopDog.

But I agree with your statement as well Topdog. Props.

As for the actual boxing, Lesnar should stick to what he's good at for this fight. I don't want to see him try to outbox Cain just yet. Unless he's secretly been training it for more than I believe. He is still very awkward with any type of standup.
topdog- October 18, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Thanks El Guapo. War Cain!!!!
El Guapo- October 18, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Dagnut... That was a well put, intelligent post. It has no place on this thread.

topdog- October 18, 2010 at 1:43 pm
There is alot of racist fothermuckers at CP and I never realized it. The pride Cain feels for his heritage is something much deeper than any of you could understand. Just like Brock is proud of his upbringing and country culture Cain translates that for his ancestory. Most of the real men on here have some sort of real pride for their parents heritage or appreciate the value of our fathers and mothers. Its the cycle of life to dwell on our past and appreciate it even if we are not directly connected to it. It runs in our blood!!! And if you dont agree with that then your probably some loser who sits at home all day with mom and dad or with their money with no care in the world not worried about raising your families better than you were. Sorry didnt mean to get too deep on yall but you need to think before you type. Calling it right now Cain rd. 4 TKO!!!!! Hate on this!!!!!
ashkenaziTROLL- October 18, 2010 at 1:26 pm
racism is all i know .. i am the cancer
Dagnut- October 18, 2010 at 1:17 pm
I haven't heard either fighter mention race once, this was article about boxing and here we are talking about race. Ridiculous.
On the boxing discussion, if lesnar is going to start planting a lead foot Cain could get some joy with leg kicks.
MoTropolis- October 18, 2010 at 1:05 pm

The only reason Brock went and learned the fundamentals of beard growing is so he can indeed grow a Zakk Wylde type beard, but not to be more viking/cyborg like. He finally figured out an efficient way to cover up the giant cock on his chest.

And for everyone buying his new humbled nature, I called this bullshit when the reports first came out about his "life threatening" injury. Dana realized Brock had potential to be an unbeatable HW champ for a good long run, but his asshat personality wasnt winning him many fans, which in turn doesnt sell PPV's. While I dont think Brocks injury/illness was faked, I think it was exploited and exaggerated to provide an opportunity to reinvent himself as a more likable fighter after such a close brush with death. The "guy you love to hate" persona works well in Brock previous career, not so much in legitimate fighting.

Im also pretty sure there are aliens on the moon, so take it as you will.
Turd Furgeson- October 18, 2010 at 12:59 pm
I'm startin to like Brock too. I haven't watched Primetime either. If it wasn't for my hatred of Mexicans, I might like Cain.
djp1988- October 18, 2010 at 12:44 pm
The idea of this is everything that is right and just in the world.
knucklesamitch- October 18, 2010 at 12:37 pm
If race was something you had to re-up for, I'd choose white every time, this shit is thoroughly good. As a white man I can get in a time machine and go to any time, like the year 2, and there'd be a table waiting...Who else can say that? However, I do not wish to the travel to the future...I don't want to know what happens, but I do know that eventually we're going to pay hard for this shit.

Ahhh...Louis C.K., good stuff.

All I'm saying is, if I stop on the way home from work tonight and get "White Pride" tattooed on my chest, in all likelihood no one is going to think, "He's really proud of being white/american"...Nope, I'm just going to get curb stomped.
DazedNConfused- October 18, 2010 at 12:32 pm
A White Pride Tattoo is a lot worse than a Brown Pride tattoo. I really don't want to go over everything that accounts for that statement but if you graduated highschool you should know most of the reasons for that.

Brown Pride does not equal the same meaning as White Pride. If that angers the Whites here I would tell them to blame the White people who ruined that for them, not to blame another race. Cains family originates from Mexico and he's only first generation American. I'm sure he's proud to be that too, but I don't see a problem with being proud of being from a Country and respecting your ancestors.

PS. I'm not Brown. Before anyone jumps on that ship.
El Famous Burrito- October 18, 2010 at 12:26 pm
@Fried Taco

I like my women like I like my oatmeal.

With my dick in them.

Wait, what?