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Is Roy Jones Jr. vs. Anderson Silva Really Bad For MMA, Or Just Bad For The UFC?


(Always bringing his cock out at the most inappropriate moments.)

Here’s how badly Roy Jones Jr. wants to fight UFC middleweight champ Anderson Silva: he’s willing to do it as an MMA bout, where his chances of losing are very, very good.  This, according to a new CBS Sports article in which UFC president Dana White admits that Jones has offered to fight Silva in the UFC Octagon under MMA rules, but White flatly refused:

"I could do it, make it huge, make money, but I could have done a fight like this when we were bleeding money [in the early 2000s]," White said. "The fight would make some money, but it hurts MMA in the long term. We don’t do that because we love the sport. That’s a Pride or K-1 matchup. It’s not what we do."

Honorable, right?  The UFC could make a ton of money on a Jones/Silva bout (regardless of what you think of Jones’ current appeal as a boxing pay-per-view draw, the sheer novelty of this fight alone would guarantee a better buy-rate than any other Anderson Silva bout in recent memory), but say they’re opting not to because it would be bad for the sport.  But how, exactly, does this hurt MMA as a whole?


The UFC’s objection is fairly obvious.  Jones isn’t interested in becoming an MMA fighter, as Brock Lesnar was.  He’s interested in this one fight.  He wants a one-off deal, and he probably wants a ridiculous amount of money for that one fight.  If the UFC were to give it to him they’d have a hard time explaining why they won’t give the same deal to Fedor Emelianenko.  Plus, there’s always the chance that Silva might try and prove his boxing skills, forgoing the ground game altogether, and end up getting himself knocked out by RJJ, thus diminishing his value as the UFC middleweight champion.

But would a boxer vs. MMA fighter bout really do serious damage to the sport?  Not really.  It would be a curiosity, slightly more spectacle than sport, but that’s nothing new. 

The UFC put Lesnar in the Octagon against a former heavyweight champ back when the big man had only one pro MMA fight.  They put Sean Gannon in at UFC 55 based purely on his underground “victory” over Kimbo Slice.  In other words, it wouldn’t be the first time the UFC capitalized on someone’s fame outside the sphere of MMA.  If Jones agreed to get one MMA bout under his belt first, competing on a small show somewhere so he could enter the UFC with the same 1-0 record Lesnar and Gannon did, would that placate Dana White?  Probably not, which should tell us something.

The reality is that a Jones/Silva bout doesn’t have enough of a benefit for the UFC to incur the costs and the risks associated with putting it on.  It has nothing to do with integrity of the sport.  Even if he’s getting on in years and isn’t the fighter he used to be, Jones is still a legend of the boxing world.  There are still plenty of people who would like to see how he could do in an MMA bout.  The answer, if Silva chose to use all his tools, would be terribly.  There’s no way he could stay on his feet if Silva wanted to take him down, and no way he’d survive longer than a minute once on the mat.  

But no matter how the fight turned out, a former boxing great against a current MMA great is still a legitimate enough match-up that MMA would emerge unscathed.  If boxing could survive Ali vs. Inoki, MMA could survive this.  It’s not a freak show.  It isn’t Jose Canseco vs. Hong Man Choi.  It’s a real (enough) fight that I’d frankly love to see.  The UFC just doesn’t want to stick its neck out – financially and otherwise – in order to make it happen, and that’s fine.  But let’s be honest, MMA has been through worse.

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slapjaw ackrite- May 8, 2009 at 12:45 am
cock shit cunt fuck ass.

wanted to see if cursing was no longer allowed
Left High Kick- May 7, 2009 at 7:48 am
how dare him. how dare that pussy faggot for using Pride and K1 as an organization(s) to point fingers at as if they weren't in it for the love of the sport. PRIDE FC is still hands down the best MMA fight org. to ever be established. period. The only reason I even watch the ufc is to watch the Pride Fighters and Joe Rogan is a silly bitch who I admire as a comedian.

and besides . . isn't Dana a woman's name?
Anonymous- May 7, 2009 at 7:35 am
Great point, Roy should fight one mma fight and then Dana should let him fight for the UFC Title.
The Cynic- May 7, 2009 at 1:23 am
One of the original draws to the UFC back in the day was to settle the point once and for all as to which style of fighting is the best. You had boxers v wrestlers, grapplers v strikers etc.

Now MMA is a fight 'style' in its own right.... so its natural people would ask... how would an MMA professional fare against a boxer? Its a fair point. Boxers will go on about how lame an MMA fighters hand positions are, or their movement.

MMA followers will say that a one dimensional boxer stands absolutely no chance against a well rounded hurting machine.

The UFC can't claim to be the best in the business and have the best fighters if they get all scared and refuse to sign fighters / fights whenever the fear their fighter may lose.
don edwardo- May 6, 2009 at 9:15 pm
most people have thought this through and came up with too many reasons a fight like this wont happen. if rjj gets a chance to fight an elite mma fighter it wont be anderson. if he realy wants to fight someone it has to be a fighter who is not under a contract. besides that if he does fight under mma rules id like to see it
Silva Sucks Ass!- May 6, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Dana White is a fucking asshat.

Anderson Silva is pussy.

Roy Jones Jr. would kill Silva. Knock his ass out! Ping!
Chicka Chicka YEAH - May 6, 2009 at 3:10 pm
and by the way i dont blame him dana white is a fuckin cock juggler.
Chicka Chicka YEAH - May 6, 2009 at 3:09 pm
I think that maybe Anderson Silva is sick of the ufc hence the shitty fighting. I think he is just trying to finish up his contract so he can go elsewhere. Just my thought
Danal White- May 6, 2009 at 2:23 pm
I have no problems with WORLD class martial artists like Xande Ribeiro and Roger Gracie doing MMA, nor K-1 kickers or world class wrestlers like Matt Lindland or Kurt Angle so why would I care if a world class boxer wants to give a try instead of jackoff from Bumfuck, Idaho who has his blue belt in BJJ.

Meaningful fights? Please. The organization that puts Leben and Cote as main events has no qualms.

What was Leznar before he was a fake wrestler? A college wrestler.
No striking, no BJJ or judo takedowns, no muay thai. Nothing but fake wrestling and real wrestling.
Who is more ready to get punched in the head between Jones and Lesnar on their first fight?

Cmon, this is the Ultimate FIghting Championships, where grappling is considered teh gay and people want to see two guy whales away.
Hell, they could do like the Irish Homo who agreed with the other jerkwad that they would take it to the ground.
I mean if the UFC can stand by when such agreements take place, then they should have no problems if Spider and Jones decide to use their fists... you know, like men.


Dojima- May 6, 2009 at 1:45 pm
the only thing that RJJ vs teh Spider would hurt would be the UFC... MMA as a whole would benefit, with increased exposure to the sport..

The UFC's game is being the top-level MMA league in the world, bar none... They issue the only meaningful belts in the sport, and to promote something that is less than top-level MMA diminishes the value of what the UFC tries to stand for...
ballsofbeans- May 6, 2009 at 1:09 pm
Just joined the forums today

Anonymous Says:
Wed, 05/06/2009 - 12:30
I hear a lot of people comparing RJJ with Brock and the reason why that comparison isn't valid is that RJJ doesn't want to be an MMA fighter. He wants a one-off. Brock at least wanted to pursue this as a career.

Should he have gotten the fight with Couture? No. But he would've been around long enough to possibly get some wins and earn a title shot. RJJ doesn't care about his legitamacy as an MMA fighter. He'll just say anything to get the fight with Silva.

RJJ's position is no where near the same as Brock's. No comparison

this is my post
Tbiz- May 6, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Roy Jones Jr. - Can't Be Touched.. Can't be moved... Can't be stopped..
Ya'll must have forgot!

RJJ via round 1 TKO!
Anonymous- May 6, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Stop talking shit on Dana. He spent millions marketing Anderson, what he is just going to throw it all away for a random match he doesn't control. Think guys. If Roy really wanted to join the UFC he would be in. This is isn't real.
J-Dog- May 6, 2009 at 1:01 pm
@Anonymous:

Agreed 100% on all counts.
Anonymous- May 6, 2009 at 12:57 pm
@j-dog

I agree with your picture comparison for sure. Quite good. Your RJJ and Brock comparison is also throughly valid as well. The only problem for the UFC to convert fans is that the Superfight between RJJ and Silva would have to be on a stacked card to ensure action, which as of late hasn't been much. I think even boxing fans, who are used to 6 to 7 rounds of unactivity would be bored with the recent cards. Last year's year ending card would've been a good candidate
J-Dog- May 6, 2009 at 12:47 pm
My comparison between RJJ and Brock Lesnar was in regards to converting fight fans and fake fight fans (WWE fans) into MMA fans by getting a crossover audience for the PPV. I totally agree it's a different comparison between the two people because yes I agree that RJJ doesn't have MMA aspirations for his future. But still, just getting boxing fans to sit through three hours of exciting MMA action may get them to come back for more even after RJJ leaves (most likely via gurney after fighting Silva).

And my comparison of the picture was the COCK in front of Roy's CHEST. Thus, doing his best impression of Brock Lesnar.

ZING!
Anonymous- May 6, 2009 at 12:30 pm
I hear a lot of people comparing RJJ with Brock and the reason why that comparison isn't valid is that RJJ doesn't want to be an MMA fighter. He wants a one-off. Brock at least wanted to pursue this as a career.

Should he have gotten the fight with Couture? No. But he would've been around long enough to possibly get some wins and earn a title shot. RJJ doesn't care about his legitamacy as an MMA fighter. He'll just say anything to get the fight with Silva.

RJJ's position is no where near the same as Brock's. No comparison
Theslothman- May 6, 2009 at 12:27 pm
All this is about is the exclusive contracts Dard Lord Dana makes ALL UFC fighters sign(their life away).
J-Dog- May 6, 2009 at 12:27 pm
My caption for this Roy Jones photo:

Roy Jones, Jr. does his best impression of Brock Lensar
J-Dog- May 6, 2009 at 12:25 pm
It could possibly HELP the sport of MMA by getting more boxing fans to watch a UFC card, thus potentially converting them in to MMA fans. Kind of like getting Cock Chestner got a lot of pro wrestling fans to buy UFC PPV events.
TeQuila- May 6, 2009 at 12:20 pm
EVERYONE*

Armfarmer- May 6, 2009 at 12:19 pm
I understand in terms of pure boxing, but why does everyone think Silva would get demolished in a stand up fight in the cage? How prepared do you think rjj would be for his clinch, knees, and kicks, along with his hands mixed in? I think Anderson would put jones away pretty easily on the feet or the ground, so long as it's not a pure boxing match.
TeQuila- May 6, 2009 at 12:19 pm
EVERY TALKS SHIT ABOUT DANA WHITE

LET ME TELL U SOMETHING, IT DOESNT MAKE U COOLER OR MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THE SPORT

U DONT LIKE THE UFC U DONT LIKE DANA WHITE? DO SOMETHING ABOUT IDIOT OR DONT WATCH IT.

QUIT THE BITCHING , CAN U DO A BETTER JOB THAN DANA WHITE? OF COURSE NO THAT IS Y U R HERE BITCHING AND POSTING ABOUT HIM INSTEAD OF HAVING UR OWN COMPANY!

AT THE END OF THE DAY ALL IT MATTERS IS RESULTS, AND HE IS MAKING THE SPORT I LOVE GROW, THE ONLY PPL HOLDING BACK THE SPORT ARE PPL LIKE U GUYS BITCHING AND CRITICIZING EVERY CHANGE U CAN GET, GET A FUCKING LIFE LOSERS...
Anonymous- May 6, 2009 at 12:18 pm
a fight is a fight! who cares how they set it up.
mma rules boxing rules witch ever.
if silva get the shit beat of him for not taking it to the ground he should of learned to box!
if jones jr get killed on the ground maybe he should have learned to wrestle!
plain and simple!
Half Amazing- May 6, 2009 at 12:12 pm
I didn't read the other comments but if this fight did happen I'd expect Silva to enter the fight with absolutely no intention of going to the ground to prove the legitimacy of his stand up. And as such, Roy Jones would knock him the fuck out and that would be bad for the UFC.
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