Hendo doesn't walk around @ 220....he didnt even make 220 for the Fedor fight.either way it's irrelevant because a guy of Jones size is making 205.. that's the bench mark...same day weighs in are the only way we will see people fight at their "natural" size

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I'm not sure what Hendo walks around at but clearly he is the better fighter at 205, since going back up he is a whole new fighter and seems really motivated.

i think Henderson only made 206 in that fight with Fedor because any extra weight wouldve been unnecessary in what he knew was gonna be a stand up war instead of grappling...at 206 he woulda been at his quickest as a HW

I find quite a few comments on here hilarious. For intance:

@snackdaddy: "Maybe its just me, but the whole one-punch-knockout-power argument never made sense to me. Why? Because everyone has it. You can’t really say that one person has knockout power at 205 and the other one doesn’t."

Um, yes you can. Henderson, Rampage, Rashad all have one punch KO power. Griffin and Tito Ortiz do not.

@kaboom82:"Unfortunately he did all he could do there. Which was crush cans, and lose to top competition." He only had one loss at MW, I am not sure what your definition of can is but it is clearly incorrect. Your comment was a can of a comment.

@Karma, Dan doesn't walk around anywhere near 215. He has to lift heavy to get to a solid 205. He's like 200 naturally. He just sucks at cutting weight. He'd be down to fight heavy if they gave him a title shot, or a #1 contenders match I'm sure. The guys is fucked up in the head.

I'm going to have an upset stomach that day. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu. Jones is sooo good. I hope he goes to sleep easily, cause he's not going to get hit often.

@karma
I'm not understanding how you keep saying that he cuts down from 215 when he came into the fedor fight at 206 (the bare minimum). One would think that if you are fight heavyweight and "by your logic" doesn't like cutting weight then he would stay at 215 "which he isn't". Truth of the matter is that, like Joe Rogan has said and which I believe, he walks around at under 200 and had to balk up to make 205.

As for natural weight class, well the man would be cutting much less then most people to make middleweight so I say that, that is where be belongs, but who am I, certainly not Dan Henderson.

@KarmaAteMyCat
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Hummm... lots to think about there...205 does appear to be Jones playground, and as you say there is always an element of risk.
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You want to believe in Rashad (I'd take that bet) yet Evans has most of the same disadvantages Hendo has. After some thought, you could be right.
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Zuffa may have long ago asked Jones in private point blank, "Jones who is the one guy you don't want to fight?" Possibly Jones answered, Evans.
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It's one plausible reason why Jones has been allowed to duck Evans. A second reason, is likely just as plausible - that is Evans vs. Jones was never a moneymaker for the promotion.
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Phil Davis could very well out wrestle Evans, but he won't ever be able to stand and strike with Jones. Bader is no slouch at the wrestle as are many others Jones dispatched.
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Karma - I don't know if it's just me, but the only chink obvious in Jones game is that he slowed way down when Machida was tagging his ass.
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As for listing Cruz and Vera and training partners. Cruz is a shrimp compared to Jones, and Vera has been long forgotten about. Plus. in Vera's case his skill set was never able to take him into a 5 round fight. Even with his new nose, he is best at kicks which he forgot to use the last couple years.
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I said my piece on Hendo, but if you want to bring up his Fedor fight...Hendo was getting the short end of the stick until he snuck in a lucky punch. Fedor was to fast and swarmmy for him to handle with ease. This being the case, Jones will seem like a 1970's Johnny Lightening.
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As for the top 10 at 205, lets list them and you tell me who looks like a credible threat?
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2. Dan Henderson
3. Rashad Evans
4. Phil Davis
5. Quinton Jackson (FAILED)
6. Lyoto Machida (FAILED)
7. Shogun Rua (FAILED)
8. Antônio Rogério Nogueira
9. Ryan Bader (FAILED)
10. Alexander Gustafsson

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I have left off Griffin, Ortiz (WILL FAIL FOR SURE), Franklin, Thiago Alves, Matyushenko (FAILED), Vera (FAILED), Hamill (FAILED), O`Brien (FAILED), Bonnar (FAILED), and Gusmão (FAILED) but your more than welcome to add any other name.
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My point is, Jones has 5 people to take serious. In all reality he can achieve this in less than 12 months as at least 3 of the next best 6 will likely loose at least once over the next year and get knocked way down in the rankings.
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Also, those past their prime and on borrowed time include Hendo, Jackson, Rua, Nogueira, Griffin, Ortiz, Franklin, Matyushenko, Vera, Hamill, and Bonnar. As I said earlier today, half of this entire division is soon to be sitting on the back of the lil yellow bus heading to Strike Force any day.
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Your move Karma.

I am saying he walks around at 215lbs I am also saying he has gotten a bit older since he claimed those belts. Now regardless if you want to admit to yourself or not that age is affecting certain areas in your game is sourly on you and I think Henderson realized this and is enjoying his time at 205lbs. As 10lbs is a lot less to cut then 25lbs, young wrestlers can cut a lot of weight hence why he was able to make is as low as he did back in the days of pride. So plenty has changed at least plenty enough to the point that making certain weight classes is no longer an option.

I have never found logic all that difficult. Maybe your good at math or something? But don't forget that this is the same henderson who came to the UFC as the Pride WW champ. He gave the MW uni to Rampage at 205, and the WW uni to A. Silva. This Exact argument prior to those back-to-back losses resulted in everyone saying he was a natural MW. To me, logically, nothing much has changed other than Hendo getting chased out of another weight class. After Jones packs him up are you going to say he's a natural HW? is that the logic?

Maybe its just me, but the whole one-punch-knockout-power argument never made sense to me. Why? Because everyone has it. You can't really say that one person has knockout power at 205 and the other one doesn't. Does fuck all for you. People said Rampage has one punch knockout power but look at what that brought him. The guy was so overwhelmed he hardly attempted a single hook against Jones. Its skills, motherfucking skills, that win fights. Not some vague made-up bullshit said to make someone sound tough in comparison. And if we're talking skills, i would go with Rashad over Hendo any day.

Really? He belongs at 185? At a certain point cutting weight takes a toll on your body as I said, and as you get older it puts more of a hindrance on your body. He is a Natural 205 fighter he CUTS to 185lbs thus he is not a natural 185lb fighter. Logic its a difficult concept.

No, hendo belongs at 185. Unfortunately he did all he could do there. Which was crush cans, and lose to top competition.
A natural 205 fighter would have landed at more than 206 for a HW fight.

Hendo is Nautral 205lb fighter not a Nautral 185lb fighter He cuts to 185lbs and it started to take a toll on him which was Evident in that Jake Shields fight..

@XENOPHON: Yeah I agree. Hendo's only shot is to land one huge right hand square on the button. AND this pretty much has to be in the first or second round because after that he will be too gassed to do much of anything.

Glad we agree and thanks for the shout out.

Hendo will need blood replacement therapy after this one.

@Fletch the V Stretch says: "Not to mention we all know Hendo slows down tremendously as the rounds go on."
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Ahh...that's another valid fucking point I completely forgot about. Matter of fact, it's the icing on the cake. Hendo won't make it passed the 2nd without tiring, and surely won't have anything left by the time any 3rd starts.
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Hendo will be kissing and hugging Jones when its all over, and glad that he won't have to do that again anytime soon.

Henderson couldn't put a way a fat shogun he has no hope with Jones..I hate saying that and I don't think I've ever said that about Henderson but this is too much for a natural middleweight to take on..I never thought Fedor would beat him either..Henderson is probably one of the greatest fighters of all time..considering what he's done across different weights and different promotions it's hard to argue..in fact he's the only middle weight with a shot of stopping Anderson Silva IMO..but Jones is a totally different proposition..I really really hope to be proved wrong but can not see anyway in which he wins

Rashad v Jones is a snooze. The bad blood sells the fight, but rashad doesn't have the skill set to beat Jones. I'm not sure Hendo really does either, but he's never been KO'ed and he's got dynamite in that right hand.

I'll take Hendo over rashad to fight for the title all day long.

First off, Why is anyone counting anyone out at 205lbs? I've grown to think of that Division in two ways "Jon Jones Playground" and the "Russian Roulette of MMA".
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Why would you discredit Rashad Evans? The guy is so fucking talented and he's a very game fighter with an incredible wrestling base. His boxing has come leap years from where it once was and to be honest the guy can hurt you with a single punch yet he throws punches in bunches.
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Phil Davis equally just as big of a monster I mean have you seen the wingspan on that dude? His wrestling is second to none and can take you down and smash your face in at will. He comes from the premier camp in his area to and trains with amazing fighters Dominick Cruz,Brandon Vera,etc etc
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Dan Henderson wow where does one even start with this guy? Dan defies odd's in more ways then even Randy Couture. Keep in mind it wasn't long ago that Randy said he had turned down a fight with Jones and all do respect to him but Henderson is stepping right into the fire. It can be said that Henderson is going to be the easy underdog in this fight. Honestly people thought Fedor was going to Handle Henderson Shocking turn about for them wasn't it?
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I don't think it's fair or logical to be counting out top ten guys in this division let alone the pool of guys floating around the title. Yes Jon Jones is the top dog and this is his playground but on any given day my friends.. any given day..

Yes call me a hater but I fail to see how you can say that someone, whether it be jones or the UFC, is not trying to avoid jones v. Evans? Timing and luck believability is getting stretched a little to far.

Hendo needs one solid shot and jones is out cold. I think Jones is going to regret not taking a vacation.

Hendo definitely has a snowballs chance, his right hand can ruin anyones night. However, he will probably just get picked apart due to the size and reach advantage Jones will have. Not to mention we all know Hendo slows down tremendously as the rounds go on.

Since this is Jones, I am going to stick with a few earlier observations, file them away.
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One, Jones can keep pace with 4 fights per year provided he doesn't get a little ochie.
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Two, now that Jones dispatched Machida (who happens to be the first fighter that deserves a rematch) there are "no others" who can really challenge Jones at his current weight.
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Three, when I say "no others" - Hendo is going to fail. With a nearly 20 year age dis-advantage, a 5 inch height dis-advantage, and with a 13 inch reach dis-advantage Hendo will get a good payday, but a battered lip. Hendo just doesn't have the reach to deliver the H-Bomb - and his best ground game left him a long time ago.
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Four, Rashad has now witnessed the destruction of about 4 people who took cuts in front of him. Whatever mojo he once claimed he had, long ago dissipated. Just like any creditability he had with smack talk from the old training days. Matter of fact, it just might be Davis who might gets the title shot a Jones first.
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Lastly, in about 2 years Jones will move up in weight. He will have to, and he already knows it. With some luck this move will have first included the run in with Anderson Silva. Face it, Silva is where Jones wants to be in 24 months. Both will have cleaned everyone out.
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Why move up, because after Jones sees Silva's rematch with Sonnen there is no one left for Silva to dismantle. The problem with Silva is: if Jones can manage to keep his winning pace, he will have achieved much more in less time. Jones already knows this. He is likely the Kelly Slater of MMA.

Evans is the only dude with a real shot to beat Jones. Im sure they will fight about 3 times in the next few years

Wasn't Hendo vs Shogun marketed as main event winner gets a title shot.
At the time Rashad was not no.1 contender, hence the booking with Phil Davis.
Hendo will not be able to find his range, will be mounted like Shogun did to him and the ref will stop the fight due to unanswered blows from Jones.

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Hey guys, i got this all figured out! How about Hendo and Rashad team-up to fight John Jones? That's a bout the best shot someone's got at beating Johnny Bones.

@kaboom
I too am not counting out Davis and am curious to see how far is striking has came along since his last bout. Just because Rashad beat Tito and bought himself a " 7 minuted abs " video, doesn't ensure that he will get past the larger and more athletic Davis. Let's not forget too, that he also has been making a meteoric rise.

Fuck Rashad. He sat on his #1 contendership for half a damn year because he was scared to lose. I don't give a shit about ever seeing Rashad fight for the title. Jones is a fighting champion, if he wants to fight, you give him a fight ... End of story.

It's nice to see the UFC enacting the early bird policy with senior citizens once again. Rashad tried to object to this, but Hendo gave him a stern talking to that included no less than 5 tales of walking uphill both ways in -20 degree weather. Let's just hope Jones doesn't offer him a Werther's Original at the weigh in, or this one will be over before it starts. WAR HENDO!

I would rather see Jones/Hendo over Jones/Evans any day.

Does anyone give Hendo a snowballs chance in hell?? You would always give Henderson the punchers chance put not in this case he won't get near him....I'm depressed when I think about the LHW division

btw rashad's other win is thiago silva and hendo is actually on a 4 fight win streak beating cavalcante and bobalu

right now i would say that hendo is more deserving of a title shot than rashad. he just had an epic battle with shogun the former title holder and beat fedor befor that. rashad is also coming in on a 3 fight win streak but his wins come against rampage and tito.

makes more sense financially to promote the upcoming fight as number 1 contender and have bones fight the winner, however it will mean hendo has to wait about 8 months and the dude aint getting any younger

Hendo vs Jones first. Rashad and Phil Davis are going to put on a snoozer...winner of that vs Shogun for next title shot.

In a perfect world:

Dana would drop Davis from his bout with Rashad and switch in Bones. Then make Mr. Wonderful fight Henderson in UFC145.

Dosen't matter. Hashad isn't getting past Davis anyway.

This is bullshit! Jones has to fight Rashad, that´s the fight we all want to see. Davis vs Hendo will do just fine, the winner gets the title shot. Dana, let go Jones balls and make him fight Rashad once and for all. Jones will win, but I wanna see the epic trashtalk!

whatever people may say about jones the guy doesn't sit on the shelf. he fights often and when you have the title that is saying something.

The Fates are just fucking with Rashad non-stop. If Dana wasnt such a money whore, he'd make Jones wait for the freaking #1 contender match to happen before having him fight again - otherwise whats the point of a #1 contender match if youre going to have someoen else fight for the title in the mean time?