and sense you guys are making comparisons, how can you forget cantwell?? That dude ran around the cage in circles screaming “I broke it! I broke it!” like a little school girl. I have no point to make, just thought he was worth bringing up.

To everyone wondering why people are offended by Aokis actions.. it’s not because he finishs subs dumbasses it’s because he’s a dick about it. Breaking someones arm, that’s fine. Breaking someones arm and then giving them the finger while they are laying on the mat.. that’s called being a douchebag. This statement kinda rubs most the wrong way as well ” I was hoping for an open-fracture.”

@dhr27

A. I never said he got destroyed B. You don’t have to get destroyed to humiliate yourself, just ask Kalib

If I were Aoki, I would be humiliated by that fight. Are you telling me you wouldn’t be? I’d rather get ktfo or submitted in a war than go 5 rounds with literally 0 offense. That’s fuckin embarassing.

As for Japanese mma in general, it was a humiliation for them because Aoki set it up to be. He was going on and on about how this is the fight to save japenese mma and he’s the last real Japanese threat and he’s better than Americans bla bla. I don’t know exactly what he said and I’m too lazy at the moment to dig it up, but he said a lot of stuff like that leading up to the fight.

Dear Author,

The childish spelling and grammar errors in CagePotato articles have really gotten out of control lately, and I’d like you to try harder.

Thank you.

Big fan of the site, but this article is completely misguided. Shinya Aoki isn’t a douchebag for doing his job. He is one of the few fighters that can make consistent submissions exciting to the crowd. He should be praised for his actions, not torn down.

Blah, blah, blah… So he enjoys damaging his opponent if he is too stupid/arrogant/prideful to tap. IMO, Aoki is simply the only guy willing to admit it.

Again, there is nothing different between this and Dan Henderson being ecstatic that he knocked the crap out of Bisping’s chin. Both intended to cause maximum damage and were happy to do so.

As for the GSP example… He didn’t let go of the sub because he didn’t want to damage the arm. He simply wasn’t in position to properly execute the submission. He said so himself and immediately went to Renzo Gracie after the fight to correct it.

I actually have NO problem holding a submission to a snap in the absence of a tap – what the hell else you supposed to do?

However, yes I would agree Aoki is a total douchebag the way he goes about it. However, at the same time he is showing the stupidity of Japanese pride – ohhh, I have to lose with “honor” so we never tap. Ok then, so then Aoki will snap your bones, and you know what? His opponents would do the same given the chance and I’m sure Aoki knows this.

I think GSP should have snapped have snapped Hardy’s arm – why let it go? Especially in title fights, if your not going to tap, then keep torquing, if the arm snaps because of a lack of a tap then what was supposed to happen? Let it go because you’re opponent won’t tap? Why even have a fight then?

Big Douche Bag! I do not keep up with this guy but from what I seen someone needs to snap a couple of his body parts for fun!

@Armfarmer

While there is some truth to what you said, it is a stretch to say that Aoki “humiliated himself and Japanese MMA” when he lost a tough 5-Round decision. Gilbert won, and gained a lot of respect in my eyes but he didn’t even come close to “destroying” Aoki.

ghostboner…right on, brah. That is exactly what makes him a d-bag…that and all the other d-bag bullshit he pulls.

Shinya done NOTHING wrong here , What does CagePotato expect him to do ?? Let go of the submissions because the guys not gonna tap ?? lol You fucking make him tap if he doesnt want to , You try and twist that foot as much as you can, You really are trying to make it snap until he taps. Which he eventually did anyway. This is why this site has zero credibility.

Ghostboner>> Thanks, just what this conversation needed. “Rushmore Panhandlers” +1

Who cares. He’s a big fish in a small pond, and we all saw what happened when he came over and tried to swim in our pond. He got ate up and in the process humiliated himself and Japanese mma as a whole. He will never amount to anything more than a Dream champion. His style matchs up perfectly to get smashed by any wrestler with decent striking. Japan is low on ncaa wrestlers, America… not so much. He wouldn’t even make a dent in ufc.

That said he’s pretty fun to watch when he’s matched up with japanese scrubs that he can use to showcase his impressive jitz. That’s pretty much the only thing he’s good for.

Stop defending Aoki or I will go all this red engine on your asses. The problem is not that he is breaking peoples shit, the problem is that he is saying he is glad he did it and that he wants to do it. You can’t really punish him for it, cause they should have tapped, but it definitely makes him a sweaty chode.

If you want an example of how you can flagrantly hold a sub too long and then feign ignorance/surprise and not get cut or even punished by the ufc, talk to that Rushmore Panhandlers guy.

If your opponent doesn’t tap, you make him tap. Both of these breakages were not Aoki’s fault, they were his opponents. Nothing stopped either of them from tapping apart from their own dumbass pride.

Seriously…does he even understand what he is saying? Those asian languages are just a bunch of jibberish anyway. Maybe he thinks that he’s saying, “Much honor to my unbreakable opponent” or “My technique is of steel, his legs are of iron, the gods are delighted by our match” or maybe “Green tea, Bonsai, California Roll. Oriental is a rug, not a person.”

One wrong brush stroke and the conversation takes a turn for the worse…

Created an account simply to respond to this stupid article. What is the unwritten rule in MMA? Tap or snap. He said that he knew that Kawijiri wouldn’t tap, so he knew he would have to wreck his leg. And, he was happy to do so. I see nothing wrong with that.

Is it really any different than a fighter hoping to knock his opponent viciously unconscious? Of course not. In both scenarios, they are hoping to harm their opponent in the worst way possible according to their respective style of fighting.

So Aoki finds the idea of injuring an opponent who is unwilling to tap exciting? So what. I understand that completely and agree with it to a certain extent. He repeatedly trains submissions. The art of applying pressure to the body to cause pain and damage, or at least cause a fighter to submit due to the threat of pain and damage. I’m sure that most sub artists secretly want an opponent to refuse to tap, thereby allowing him to fully apply a submission. Aoki is simply willing to admit it.

Now, when Aoki snaps a guys arm, or chokes him unconscious, AFTER he taps… then I’ll agree with you that he is a douchebag. Till then, grow up.

its truly hilarious to see fanbois who would lick Dona White’s taint if they could talk about douchebags owners.
If White isnt enough, the UFC owners are from a long line of real life mobsters, not wannabees like the aerobics instructor.

I’d make a pot-kettle comment but irony would be lost.

@mburtoni: What a country!

I think Aoki is playing the role up. I don’t blame him for holding the sub when guys refuse to tap, they’re the idiots that think being tough is better than continuing your career. He wouldn’t be breaking anyone’s anything if the guys would just tap

So in Japan, it’s ok for a fighter to publicly state that he wishes to maim his opponents. They also have TV shows where pretty Japanese girls see how many severed bull penises they can fit in their mouths while their faces are covered in grease and dead flies (no joke – I saw that shit on HBO.)

But they still censor pubic hair?

i fail to see the problem. his job is to end fights. his opponents have a lot of pride and do not wish to tap. that is why there is a ref. of course he would continue to crank, as many of his opponents would continue to fight. look at rich franklin fighting with a broken arm. also look at tim sylvia trying to convince herb dean that he was fine… he is just doing his job… hurting other people. hahhah.

jesus christ the japanese are weird. who in the world would dress up in such a self deprecating way besides the japane……. oh yeah, seth petruzelli

@ fbf:

typical japanesey calisthenics.

I fucking hate this guy
Screw you gayoki

PS i wish i would have posted this on fightlinker!!!

@ k-onda:

I think you need to take sarcasm classes from that one persian dude on Family Guy.

@2dadeath: I think that is Sailor Moon, and I think you feel nauseous because you’ve imagined yourself in Gono’s very position before.

Anyway, Aoki’s alright, a freak by anybody’s book, but what you gonna do? Look, no spit-bags or jail time, no roid charges, no kids with a used up porn star – damn, this guy’s doing just fine if you ask me.

Aoki is a massive douche but not for breaking bones. He’s a douche for wearing those fruity ass tights, crying like a lil bitch everytime he loses, disrespecting his opponents after he beats them, and finally for letting Gono get all up in that lil sailor ass without making him give a reacharound.

BTW MRuss you should have photoshopped Melendez’s head in place of Gono’s.

WTF is going on in that photo?

Is that Sailor Moon? And why do i feel nauseous all of a sudden?

The next time somebody doesn’t tap Aoki is going to break their grandmother’s arm immediately after the fight as well. Live on PPV. Then he will kick a puppy. After that he will say something nice about Gus Johnson.

meh, you people are to sensitive…he knew damn well that if he didnt tap, it would go until he broke it! so why all the sad faces….Aoki should have tried harder imo

Aoki-sama is Very Ultra-Shiny Happy Super Douche! Tehehehe!

Aoki is a bit of a ball bag. But then the organization he works for sounds like it is run by ball bags. I did quite enjoy the video of him crying like a bitch after Gilbert smashed him around for 5 rounds. Aoki looked like the elephant man during a PMT attack. I bet all his snapped limb opponents were flipping off there TV screens during that classic moment

Sadly the douchiest part of the clip isn’t Aoki acting like a savage it is the announced screaming “It’s Goodnight Irene! IT”S GOODNIGHT IRENE!”

Gimme a break, gimme a break, break me off a piece of that kitkat bar.

There is a difference between going til stopped and wanting to cause harm.

In aoki’s case he wants weaker opponents so he can sell a 4th rate promotion. Dream if freak shows so the japanese can rejoice japanation style. They honestly buy into kung fu theatre ideals of martial arts.

It they won’t tap what the hell is he supposed to do?

Snap it if they won’t tap it.

The Japanese…. crazy peeps

yes

What was he suppose to do? Let go? Flippin the bird was a lil much though.

“I was hoping for an open fracture”

Geezuz friggin Krist Shinya-san is a f’kn nut… I wonder if Sasahara told him to let Melendez whoop his ass?? BWHAHAHA I’m kidding. I actually like Aoki, but I am curious what his post fight interview for that Strikeforce fight sounded like.

it’s the Japanese censorship that really bothers me.