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‘Shogun’ Feels UFC 139 Bout With Henderson Should Have Been Scored a Draw; Dana White Agrees


(The winner of the rematch: the fans)

Mauricio “Shogun” Rua walked out of the Octagon Saturday night feeling like he got ripped off for the second time in his past five bouts.

According to Rua, he feels that his UFC 139 bout with former Strikeforce light heavyweight champ Dan Henderson should have been declared a draw and says that he’d like a do-over.

“It certainly was a great fight. I do not know how the judges scored the final round. It should have been 10-8 for me. But that takes nothing away from Dan Henderson,” Rua told UOL after the bout. “He is a legend and one of those fighters who have created a legacy, but I want revenge. I think [a rematch] would be another great battle and the public wants to see it.”

Henderson, on the other hand, feels that he clearly took the fight and will be adding the judges who concur to his Christmas card list this year.

“I won four rounds.” he told Joe Rogan after the bout, noting that he felt one of the rounds could have been scored a 1-8 in his favor.

Surprisingly, not a lot of MMA luminaries agree with his assertion.

UFC president Dana White had the bout 47-47, while UFC light heavyweight champ Jon Jones and number one middleweight contender Chael Sonnen both had it 48-47 for Rua.

The odds are for “Shogun” getting another crack at “Hendo,” considering White’s proclivity for booking immediate rematches when he feels fighters have unfinished business in the Octagon, much like he did after Lyoto Machida stole a decision away from Rua at UFC 124 in October 2009. Rua made the best of his next shot at the champ when he knocked “The Dragon” out seven months later at UFC 129 in the rematch.

The perfect venue for a rematch between the two former PRIDE stars would be the Saitama Super arena in Japan where the UFC will touch down for UFC 144 in February.

What say you, Potato Nation, does this rematch make sense?

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Mongrel- November 22, 2011 at 12:14 am
Clear victory for Hendo.
I mean sure, Shogun outlasted him in terms of cardio, and yeah he had top position for almost an entire round... but where was the damage?
Hendo owned him in terms of damage and won 3/5 rounds. How is that a draw? It's like saying... who ever ends up on top wins.
Also, who came closer to finishing > Hendo. Who's face looked like minced meat > Shogun.
Am I the only one who's not a fan of 5 rounds? There wouldn't even be a discussion if this was your regular, 'what's been happening for the last 10 years' non-title bout.
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Todd M- November 21, 2011 at 8:59 pm
@ Danomite, I love your new burn, FOX Noob, I'l be lending that one if u don't mind. I think Hendo won, I was rooting for Shogun but I thought he had to finish the fight in the 5th. I think if you give Shogun a 10-8 in the 5th you can definately argue that Dan picked up a 10-8 somewhere along the line as well. Fuck it guys lets see a rematch! At the end of the day they finished the fight somewhere close to equal and that was one of the best fights in history, I'm sure they will put on a great show again.
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danomite- November 21, 2011 at 6:30 pm
if round 3 was a 10-7 then round 1 was 10-6
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RearNakedSpoon- November 21, 2011 at 4:25 pm
@WalterBarrio
If Rd 3 was a 10-8 with Shogun surviving and still pushing forward/going for submission attempts after Hendo threw everything he had at him, then Rd 5 was a 0-10 with Hendo doing fuck all except hold on. The judging is based on being effective, but the judging system is highly flawed and debated to hell and back for so many years.
Shogun fought for all 5 rounds, Hendo didn't.
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Iskander Neptu- November 21, 2011 at 4:21 pm
Silva vs Jones now! Before its too late.. (Leave poor GSP alone you big bad man!)
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XENOPHON- November 21, 2011 at 4:06 pm
Don't want to pay $50 bones to watch a couple old fucks get pushed to fight past the 3rd round. Only prop Shogun gets here is that he wasn't finished by facial smashing.
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He lost that fight, as he absorbed far more punishment than he was capable of delivering. Shogun's record inside the UFC is a dismal 4 wins, 4 loses.
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Poof-Be-Gone. Jones will tear all comers apart - including Hendo.
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Iskander Neptu- November 21, 2011 at 3:24 pm
@ Get off me
we could go on for ever.. If Rosenthal had stopped it in the third no one would have complained, least of all Shogun. Championship Fights have been stopped for way less. Stitch and the doctor(?) were asking Shogun questions to see if he new what planet he was on, his face beaten to a pulp.
If this round wasn't a 10-8 for the judges how could they possibly consider the fifth a 10-8? It was a 4 minute mount yes, but never even close to a finish. They were consistent. Kudos.
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WalterBarrio- November 21, 2011 at 3:19 pm
if round 5 was a 10-8 then round 3 is a 10-7. Shogun was in WAY worse danger than Hendo was.
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MediumRare- November 21, 2011 at 3:18 pm
Lock those two motherfuckers in the cage together again!
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zhangdd- November 21, 2011 at 3:14 pm
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Get Off Me- November 21, 2011 at 2:26 pm
@Iskander Neptu
Respect. Once again though, what offense did Hendo show in the 5th round? Henderson did not land a single punch, not one single punch(not counting the 5-10 punches from his back whilte mounted). It's not a JJ lesson, it's a fight, and if one fighter can nullify another fighter for 5 minutes like Shogun did to Hendo, he should be awarded more than just 10-9.
@Karma
The fourth was close in what sense? Looked like Hendo landed under 10 strikes to Shoguns 30+ landed strikes. They both had top control in the round at one point as well, the ground game was a wash in the 4th. The fight in the first three rounds was closer striking wise than in the 4th, when Shogun clearly had taken the fight over. I think Hendo gassed after his big over hand right half way through the 3rd, because from that point on Rua recovered and the fight started to turn his way. Seriously Hendo landed under 10 strikes total in the 4th and a big goose egg in the 5th.
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KarmaAteMyCat- November 21, 2011 at 1:55 pm
@Xanderschultz
Not to mention hendo finished the round ON TOP
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Iskander Neptu- November 21, 2011 at 1:17 pm
@ Get off me - Thank you for the lesson in jiu-jitsu, i guess i wasn't listening when i was training at the Gracie Academy in Barcelona. A draw would be a travesty in this fight. 3 rounds to 2 is accurate. And if there HAD BEEN any 10-8 it should be the 3rd. Shogun was dead, they were asking his name in his corner. That is more important than an inconsequential mount. But i guess we disagree.
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mcw89138- November 21, 2011 at 12:56 pm
From a UFC corporate perspective, just make the JJ/Hendo fight - a Shogun/Hendo rematch is a no win situation. If Shogun wins the rematch, there will be little interest in a Shogun/JJ rematch, and the UFC will lose a quality contender in Hendo. If Hendo wins the rematch, he'll be 42 by the time he fights JJ and JJ will be even more experienced, possibly making the Hendo/JJ match less competitive. I say if Machida loses, book the JJ/Hendo matchup right away, and then immediately have Hendo rematch Shogun in mid to late 2012 regardless of whether he wins or loses the JJ fight.
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Xanderschultz- November 21, 2011 at 12:39 pm
@ Karma

That's a great point too. I don't know why Round 4 was definitely Shoguns. He did land a brutal uppercut, but Dan was kicking his ass pretty good up to that point (he even had him in a crucifix atone point) and it's not like Dan continued to get killed after that flurry.

I easily see how people could have scored a draw but I dno how people had Rua winning.
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KarmaAteMyCat- November 21, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Since when can you drop someone two to three times in a single round and do severe damage to their face and not have it be a 10-8 round? Seriously Shogun might have sat in control for Round five but he did pitter patter the entire round. Also ROUND 4 was absurdly close and could have gone either way so the judges could have seen it just as easy as I did four rounds to one for Hendo.. It is what it is and that is IN THE BOOKS.
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Xanderschultz- November 21, 2011 at 12:35 pm
I'm meh on a rematch. It was cool to see them fight and now I know they are pretty damn even and can take each others punches. That's enough for me.

Hendo has limited time in the sport. I would rather see him fight some other top guys (Bones, Shad) or maybe some rematches from long ago (Lil Nog, Page). Both of the ladder would be great in Japan.
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Metaljonus- November 21, 2011 at 12:33 pm
do it in japan!!
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Get Off Me- November 21, 2011 at 12:10 pm
@Iskander Neptu
Like I told you before, there were no 10-8's for either fighter.
How many strikes did Hendo land in the fifth round?
MMA is also judged based on grappling and full mount is not being inside your opponents guard, it is one of, if not the most dominant position a fighter can have over his opponent on the ground, this is where Shogun spent roughly 4 minutes of the last round against Hendo.
Hendo hurt Shogun pretty bad in the 3rd round, but if you watch that round again(you should) you will see that Hendo threw a nice leg kick followed by an over hand right combo that dropped Shogun, from that point the fight went to the ground with half the round remaining, Hendo did not mount Shogun, he continued to strike and really did not land much, so much so that Shogun regained whatever wits he had left, grabbed Hendo's heel, reversed back to his feet and clearly won the remaining two minutes of the frame....that's not a 10-8 round.
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Liverpunch- November 21, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Wow. Shogun got more messed up in this fight than he did against Jones and he's asking to do it all over again? Fuck it. Let's do it.
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I'm wondering what Shoguns game plan would be. He won't knock Dan out. I think Dan's wrestling is better than Shogun's BJJ...so maybe try to break his hand with his head again and lay on him for the last two rounds instead of the just the one?
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Not bitching about watching another potentially amazing fight. Just wondering...
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danomite- November 21, 2011 at 12:06 pm
That was a draw. I called a draw before the fight and if it weren't for dumb judges and brian bowels I would have been a perfect 5 for 5. Anybody who disagrees with me about the draw is a FOX noob. I'm always right. All hail me!
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Tai-Pan- November 21, 2011 at 12:04 pm
I scored it a draw but was fine with Hendo winning for the same reason(s) El Guapo stated. That said I don't see how in fuck Shogun won that fight, the first three rounds were definitely Henderson.
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