What’s all this shit about being “impressive”? It’s the first fight he has and he’s supposed to go hog wild? I actually was impressed at how easy and nonchalant Roy acted, as in he didn’t need to go big to win, he humiliated Kimbo by not even really needing to smash him. He could have gone off, but he’s like “Look how easy this is, I can do this all day.”

I agree fight fan it just confuses me that guys with 10 times the skill of me or anybody on this site they would not try to escape baffling

@fight fan

I read it wrong, my bad. Totally agree that while he wouldn’t have gotten out anyway he could have at least tried, there was absolutely no effort to bridge or scramble. He did well when he could get his feet on the fence, but you don’t have to have the fence there to do the same thing, just use the ground. You’d think he’d have figured that out by now.. then again rampage is his coach.

And Biggles,

If you’re faced with a) losing the fight due to stoppage, and b) “wearing your ass out”, whomever would choose “a” is retarded.

Roy Nelson’s performance wasn’t impressive whatsoever. I do agree it was a smart move on Roys part to try and end it on the ground, in a lock where Kimbo couldn’t move, but it just wasn’t impressive. I already knew Kimbo has shitty ground game, and Roy just exploited with the same exact move, for the whole fight. Kimbo won the stand up for sure, but got fucking owned on the ground. Roy is a fat fucking faggot for thinking hes such a badass though for beating someone with absolutely no ground game. What a tool. And Roy shouldn’t even be on the show in the first place, that fat bitch should be in the UFC already.

@ Farmer

Actually, the fight went exactly how I thought it would…with Nelson ending it on the ground. And for the record, I said he was stupid, not that the fight was a fix.

Lastly, I never said that Kimbo, nor I for that matter, could get out of that crucifix. I said he should have naturally tried to bridge and/or buck, which he never attempted.

When will people understand that it doesn’t matter how much you bench press, power is generated from knee to core. All those big muscles Kimbo has do nothing but slow him down and use up gas.

@ Fight Fan It’s also instinct to land on your stomach when you’re going down and give up your back. I don’t know why he wouldn’t bridge up though.

Did anyone else ever see Joe Stevenson crucify Marcus Davis? The thing works, and Kimbo wasn’t getting out of it.

Maybe Tiki Ghosn drives a Ford Escort because it still gets great gas mileage and it’s paid for and he’s secure enough in who he is that he doesn’t need to be rolling around in some hot shit new car, endlessly chipping away at a $400 a month car payment just so CagePotato will think he’s cool, assholes.

if you have ever rolled with top level guys bucking, and writhing around on the ground will do nothing but wear your ass out. I have had 185 pounders in side mount that were immovable, and im 240 all im saying there are different levels of grapplers and until you experience it. just saying you would, or could escape is total bullshit.

I am getting more and more sick of a fight not going how someone thinks it should.. or how they would have liked it to.. and calling it a work. I’m going to ask the same question I asked when Silva beat Forrest and when Seth beat Kimbo.. who stands to gain from a fix? What purpose would that serve.. besides putting their big money maker out of the picture? A fix for kimbo to win.. that I could believe.. but this was no fix. I don’t think think kimbo is the one that’s retarded here fellas..

Improving position ??

LOL the crucifix position is already the best position. Transition from mount to crucifix was perfect…very rare.

Roy couldve beat him bad if he wanted to…but he’s a BJJ master and he did what he needed to end the fight.

That kind of ending is a TKO victory but it’s in fact a submission….and no one complain when the fight end via submission even if there’s no broken bones.

I agree with Fight Fan. Also, who throws a knee when you’re going backwards? That’s retarded!

Rigged, obviously rigged. Kimbo could have yanked that right arm out of that half assed crucifix. Just need to get more viewers is all, we know Kimbo fights in the finale already so eat a dick all you Kimbo haters, Roy is a big fat waste of flesh. Kimbo threw the fight on purpose no question.

Ok. I’m convinced Kimbo is retarded. Isn’t it natural instinct to plant your feet and buck when you’re crucifixed like that, or is that something only a ground-game master would know?

Similarly, when someone trips you and you’re going down, is it instinct and basic reaction that tells you to put your hands out in front of you to cushion the fall, or is that something that needs to be taught? The way he goes limp on the ground points to retardation or fix. I say the former.

I’m of the belief that Big Country did dominate that fight. However, I am really upset about how the fight went and how is was stopped. Kimbo lost, and lost bad. However, just sitting in the crucifix and rolling out little bump punches that do no damage, and have no real impact on the fight is only a minuscule step above just laying on top of of a guy without improving position. In cases like that the fighters would be stood up, wouldn’t they?
I admit I am no expert, but if big country is just sitting on Kimbo, not improving position, and not inflicting significant damage, shouldn’t they be stood up?
At least that way Big Country would win via ring control and takedowns rather than tapping guys on the head while he smothers them with his stomach.
Kimbo has no better takedown defense than ground game. At least if they got stood up a couple times then at least the fight would have been won via some legitimate fighting, over the ‘well this is not going anywhere’ stoppage.

@jdam77

Dude give me a break.. kimbo being on the ultimate fighter isn’t going to bring about mma armagedon. It’s really not a big deal at all. There are so many things wrong with your post I don’t even know where to begin. For one thing, kimbo’s thugishness is practically nonexistent on this show. He hasn’t done a single thing that was low class, trashy, ghetto, or whatever. He’s conducting himself very well. Also, even if he was you act like it’s something that’s never happened before. Like nate diaz, melvin guillard, and junie browning never existed. I guess you’ve never heard of tank abbot.. or the first 5 or 10 ufc’s that completely lacked technique and skill? This is nothing new, it’s tame compared to some of the other things that have gone down with ufc.

Plus.. how is it bad for the sport if the worlds most infamous and feared street fighter gets an opportunity to train and compete with up and comers on a reality show and gets exposed and gets his ass handed to him by an unintimidating overweight white guy? All that does is prove to the world that a strong scrapppy streetfighter can’t compete with legitimate mixed martial artists.. that’s good for the sport. If the guys who are just brawlers with no technique were winning all the time then it would be bad for the sport, but they will get pounded out (see above gif) by the technical fighters so.. no harm no foul.

There needs to be a 230 lbs class called “Heavyweight” and have the 265′ers be “Super Heavyweight”. I think Roy would get owned against lean 265-ers like Cock Chestner.

Dull fight.

There was no damage being done really so I’m not impressed with the win. And while kimbo wasn’t hurt, just think of the damage some of the big wrestlers would be able to do to him once they got him down. Lesnar would be putting dents in your skull from that crucifix position. Just thought you should know Kimbo, this probably won’t be the last time this happens, and it probably won’t be the worst either.

Why are so many people getting so defensive for roy.. I read some of these comments and they make it sound like everyones attacking roy trying to take away from his win or saying he only won cause he’s fat.. then I scroll up and I don’t see a single negative comment towards roy. Wtf are you guys talking about?? lol

I got hooked on MMA for one reason. I instantly had a great deal of respect for the participants in the sport. It was true combat… Two highly skilled warriors in the cage. Bringing years of sweat, study and knowledge in the martial arts to fans across the globe.
Two individuals that had such an impressive journey in their given discipline, they earned the right to engage in combat for the masses. Well, thanks to this season of TUF, that prestige is gone.

If you are an un-disciplined and untrained thug “The UFC is hiring!”

Every MMA fan and fighter should be very concerned about what we are seeing take place with Dana White and the UFC. Up until now the organization stood for Discipline and the promotion of highly trained Martial Artists. The Introduction of Kimbo and all the hype over this street thug with zero martial arts training, we are witnessing the plunge of this respected organization into the gutter alongside the WWE. I sit here stunned to see what is going on with this Kimbo. The UFC lost a lot of respect last night in my opinion. They dedicate an entire show and maybe this whole series to a clown that can t fight, has zero martial arts training, and can’t wrestle his way out of a wet paper bag! Amazing!!! Hell, a fat boy threw his ass to the matt and took him out. What do you think some real talent likes Lesner or Mir would do to him? I hate to think…..
After what I saw last night, I just can’t believe Dana White is putting so much exposer on this one- hit- wonder. Yes Kimbo looked sad last night… In fact, really sad

Roy Nelson has had a legit chin since IFL. he may have been rocked by some hooks, but thats what happens when you get a shot in the face. Its MMA, people get punched in the face.

But to say his ground and pound was weak i just wanna say let somone you know get you in a crusifix side mount and let them punch your “fronthead” 40 times for a minute then another 20+ times two minutes later and let me know if you are done or not. bruce lee was a lightweight and crazy power from a 1 inch punch. think about a dude that weights 264 punching from six inches and putting some weight behind it.

Just because Nelson has a Big Country Belly doesnt mean he doesnt have gas or power. keep hateing cause the big belly white dude banged out the jacked brown man.

nice roy way to show them how its done.anyone who thought it wouldve ended up different obviously doesnt know big country.kimbo stood no chance what so ever he couldve hit roy 100 times square in the jaw and still 0%.anyone who knows even a lil about mma knew it was going down this way.dont hate on roy hes bonafide tried and true warrior.its awrap roy wins the show hands down all those other guys are clown shoes. the only one really left is bad brad and we all know he aint shit.boringest fights ever.

I agree with mtsg. He completely dominated Frank Mir in Grappler’s Quest, and his control is through positioning and technique. He really knows how to athletically use his excess ass. And the position he sought is also known as the beatdown position and nobody talked shit when a bigger Hughes used it to finsh BJ. He should have thrown a couple elbows to make it look more brutal or open a cut, because it is hard to keep complete control there and throw a punch.
Damage control. Roys fought once and still fresh and ready.

JSP and Olsoskey rule! And I also define luck as accomplishing what you intended to do.

I was not going to comment, but I just had to. Roy he pretty good fighter, I like Kimbo he is great for the sport, bringing in new fan it always a great thing. I wanted people to under stand, this season is all about heavy weight, people who are going to give brock the monster a fight, Roy will not be that guy, Kimbo has a better chances standing, will problably never beat brock in a fight because at any given time brock can get the take down, and put a hurting on him. But if he try to stand, by the luck of god can get a lucky punch in. Yes it hard to say Kimbo has to win with a lucky punch, but I will say this, I love Matt Serra but he JSP with a lucky punch, brock in the last fight a lucky punch to beat Coutour, Hey even Frank got a luck win over Brock, it not really 100% luck but some, you make a mistake and you can lose. But never the least Kimbo is in great shape and if any body was looking at the fight, Roy didn’t want to stand and bang with him. Give Kimbo a chances to train in some wrestling with some of the great like Coutour and some Olympic wrestler and you will see Kimbo show the UFC some good fight, Please don’t take anything away from Kimbo god given gift the man can punch, he has power to knock people out, even all of us loved Andrea Olsoskey but we see him now getting KO by every one he fight…LOL Sorry Andrea now more russian rulet..

All you roy CUNTry Nelson lovers will get yours , maybe in the next fight for him, that fat gut wont win another fight.

I want to know how some of these guys can be shredded, train hard, and know they might be going 15 minutes and still do not have the stamina to make it through the first round? I see them running and training in the promos but still can not go 5 minutes, much less 15. BTW, to answer the question of Kimblow being on Rashad’s team, I agree with Nuke. Not much change. It would be better for him b/c Rashad’s not gonna keep kissing his ass and he’ll make him better. But it’s too late in the game for kimbo. I do think Dana will keep him around and treat him with kid gloves for the rest of his career. He is a draw and nothing more.

Would change nothing at all.

Roy is a world class grappler. Kimbo will never be…he’s too old already and he has a brawler shape with skinny legs.

Kimbo has no chin, his wrestle sucks, his ground game is horrible, his footwork also sucks, he look strong but he isnt…. he can hit hard sometimes and that’s about it.

I still love him…he’ll always be entertaining to watch but he’ll never win against a big name.

Kimbo looked worse than ever but…
props to Roy Nelson even though he hits like a bitch

Roy hit him like 41 times when he had him on the ground in the first round. Kimbo got hit in the head 41 times without defending himself, the fight should have been stopped in the first. Like I said go and watch some of Big Countys other fights like the Imes and Arlovski fights, he is a good heavy weight. Also the video of Nelson schooling Mir at a grappling tournament is an eye opener.

Good question, whitey.

On the one hand, it could be argued that it wouldn’t have made much difference. Kimbo is not a young fighter, and you can’t teach an old dog new tricks. Last October he thought he knew it all, but was owned by Petruzelli in a matter of seconds.

On the other hand, Evans may have been able to teach Kimbo a thing or two. It’s obvious that Kimbo has learned next to nothing under Jackson’s tutelage. The latter seems more interested in making bad jokes than training his fighters.

What If……….??
Kimbo had been picked by Team Rashad?

Ok let’s hear some opinions

“You guys need to stop licking Kimbo’s bearded balls and realize he is a puncher with suspect stamina and hideous ground skills.”

The above is the single funniest (and most accurate) comment made in the thread so far. Cheers, Rashad.

Honestly, most of you people are missing an important fact in this fight. Namely that RN was not trying to kill Kimbo, he was trying to win. He was talking earlier in the episode about it not mattering how hard you hit the guy, hell you could slap him out if you wanted to, it is about him not being able to intelligently defend himself. I believe that Roy was trying to make it obvious that Kimbo was not intelligently defending himself without giving him a concussion. Overall, quite a decent thing for him to do, and he was dominant in doing it.

Kimbo had no ground game, and the weight difference really made it hard. The heavyweight division is eventually going to be legit 265 pounders soon anyway. Bigger guys throw harder, get more of an edge on the ground, and i cant see guys at lighter weights stepping up anymore.

I mean look at that clip. Kimbo is totally helpless. Helpless. Roy rendered him helpless and you guys criticize Roy? Not getting it.

I love the UFC, but Dana was wrong with his description of a dominant performance. Kimbo said he would beat Roy if he fought him again. (on the post fight podcast on the UFC’s site.) Not real sure what basis he’s going on but he got croaked.

Overall, I think Nelson is gonna win this whole thing and Kimbo is gonna lose his second fight (of course as an injury replacement. After that, Kimbo is gonna lose his third fight (as an ”I miss my dog I wanna go home” replacement). Then, after not properly recovering from a breast reduction, Kimbo is gonna replace “titties” in the Finale and ultimately lose a fourth fight, making him the greatest monumental fall since Jesse Taylor

Seriously, you guys act like being a fat ass beats everyone. If its a fat ass or a muscled mad man, your picking the muscled mad man. That musled mad man was crucified 2 times. 2. Think of that. Can Butterbean lay on a fighter and get a win? Hell no. Kimbo would kill Butterbeans ass. I believe Kimbo could have gotten stood up over and over, even catch Roy with a bomb here and there, and still wind up back in that position. For you guys to criticize Nelson seriously need to ask yourself about your motivation. If McSweeny would have crucified Shivers twice and hit him like that, you guys would be talking about the total domination. The clip above shows a man getting pummelled. And he would have continued getting pummelled as long as Roy wanted to pummel him. I can not believe you just think Roy should have stood up and banged until someone got knocked out. If RN would have knocked him out you would be bitching about Roy being a vet. You guys need to stop licking Kimbo’s bearded balls and realize he is a puncher with suspect stamina and hideous ground skills.

In TUF announcer voice: “This fight was brought to by Burger King”

Kudos to ‘Goog’ for bringing up an EXCELLENT point….

Nelson did not gas.

After watching last weeks pathetic ‘gas-fest’, NOBODY has a right to mock to Big Country.

He came.

He saw.

He ordered a cheezburger.

…end of story

Nelson should have been penalized in the fight: The Dan Henderson Rule. He was disrupting Kimbo’s breathing by stuffing Kimbo’s mouth full of belly.

Big Guntry is pissed that he was picked 9th. He said it himself that he thought that he was the surprise ringer. He is going to grind out a win this season and get a contract. Then Dana White is going to feed him to the wolves because Roy’s girth doesn’t fit into Dana’s gladiator/sixpack/Axe body spray, masturbatory tapestry.

They’re not hard punches, but how much force can you really generate from that position? Thank God for Big Country, representing the big eaters.

First of all, Roy Nelson is not Butterbean. Some of you talk abou thim like he’s a freak. He’s completely atypical for a cage fighter, but he seems to have more gas than a lot of the guys in shape, so who cares how he’s proportioned?

Second, you’re all arguing the same point, regardless of who you rooted for. Roy beat Kimbo with some of the least energetic ground and pound I’ve ever seen. However… it really says something that that’s ALL IT TOOK to beat him. Roy had a plan and went in and executed it. Was it bad ground work? I don’t think so. Kimbo is 230+ripped pounds and Roy made him look like he was wrestling his kids. He neutralized him and Kimbo “couldn’t intelligently defend himself”.Dear God… what did he take…40 unanswered shots to the head? He wasn’t going anywhere and it was a weird way to have to stop it, but Roy would beat him every time.

Anyone saying he’s just another guy in the house is full of shit, though. He’s being used to hype the whole season. I couldn’t care less about him or his future, I just won’t bother to watch. He’s not the first guy in the UFC to disinterest me.

Kimbo, WWE just called…they need a Guest Host for next week’s RAW.

Seriously, you can’t deny that the man’s got game His only problem is that his game’s talking and that only gets you so far in this business–just go ask Michael Bisping about Hendo sometime.

Vince McMahon really needs to know about Kimbo b/c the boy knows how to put asses in the seats, and Vince has forgotten how to do that!

it was a manipulation of the rules and thats how roy won!! he didnt hurt kimbo and roy face looked worse than kimbo!!! but thats how it goes if you have no ground game!!

I agree that the money is Kimbo’s main motive for “fighting,” but ego also plays a major role. Nelson bruised Kimbo’s pride (and his head) in a big way. People say Kimbo is humble, but this is the guy who wouldn’t even touch gloves when he fought Petruzelli.

How the fuck did Kimbo not suffocate under that all that belly? I think Herb stopped the fight ’cause he was worried about Kimbo getting enough air rather than those mosquito bites to the fronthead (yes, that’s right: fronthead).

Granted, it was a boring watch. Roy’s ground game wasn’t so much shit as it was awesomeness. He crucifixed Kimbo and lumped up his head. That was what he set out to do, right? Kimbo was doing way more than Roy with his standup, and i’m sure when Roy felt that hook, he thought “I need to lay on this guy.”

After the fight they should’ve lowered a cow into the cage a la Jurassic Park.

Nelson could’ve hit him harder to try to put on a show, but really that couldn’t have worked out better for Dana White. Now a bunch of people know who Roy Nelson is, and people (myself included) will still tune in to watch Kimbo fight and they can just keep telling us “he’s been working really hard on his ground game!”

That said, once he actually got inside the cage, Kimbo’s ground game looked like absolute shit. I doubt you’re gonna get up off your back with Nelson’s fat ass on you anyway, but jeez, man, at least move your hips.

Also – can we start making guys earn a damn stoppage? You should have to hit harder than that for them to call the fight.

I work with a guy who thought Kimbo fell asleep or was getting asphyxiated… seriously…

“How you gonna get up when the moon is on top of you?”

In all fairness, half of those were first glancing off Nelson’s fat stomach. They couldn’t have had much left on ‘em.

I heard the Nelson GnP left Kimbo looking worse than Saku did, after Arona torched him.

Big Country needs to be more of a showman. He should have had some cheeseburgers, onion rings, and a milkshake ready for after the fight and just nom nom nom’d away.

Kimbo hasn’t evolved one bit since he had his first MMA fight. It’s all talk, he doesn’t really want to learn, he just wants to make some dough. Anyways, I’ll still watch him fight. Roy had shit ground and pound.

When “Titties” fights, that record will be broken again!!

Awesome clip. The loop is hilarious. Six million people saw that? And Kimbo thought he was pissed yesterday . . .

what a crappy fight