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Strikeforce Aftermath: Overeem Respects Fedor, Compares Beating Rogers to Coming in Third in Pride Grand Prix


(Props: MMA Fighting)

Alistair Overeem successfully avoided the perils of getting too high over his dominant beatdown of Brett Rogers at Strikeforce: Heavy Artillery on Saturday night, as the heavyweight champion compared the thrill of victory to … coming in third in the 2005 Pride Grand Prix? Yeah, when asked by seemingly omnipresent reporter Ariel Helwani (video above) at the post-fight media conference if he considered the defeat of Rogers among the best moments of his career, Overeem responded by rattling off pretty much his whole resume of combat sport accomplishments.

"I would say I’ve had several really high points," Overeem said. "This definitely is one of them. I defeated the K-1 champion Badr (Hari), that was a really nice accomplishment. Once I beat (Sergei) Kharitonov, he was the second (ranked fighter) of Pride back in early 2006, that was a really good accomplishment. I became third of the Pride Grand Prix, that was a very good accomplishment. In 2007, I also became the Strikeforce champion, that was a good accomplishment."

As if Brett Rogers didn’t have enough depressing shit to deal with today, now he has to face the reality that beating him feels similar to tying with Wanderlei Silva as second runners-up in a tournament held five years ago. With no time for losers however, the MMA media is rapidly moving on to speculating about a future matchup between Overeem and Fedor Emelianenko. Overeem said he thinks it will happen, if those meddling gangsters in M-1 Global don’t sabotage the negotiations.


"Fedor himself (is not ducking me)," Overeem explained. "Fedor himself is a true warrior, I respect him a lot, he’s a true champion … his management however, they have accused me of steroid use. They are ducking me, they are putting all sorts of barriers to not having the fight happen. They are the obstacle, Fedor is not the obstacle."

Given that "Heavy Artillery" didn’t devolve into a massive in-ring brawl while delivering a slate of good – if not great – fights, it has to be considered something of a success for Strikeforce. Company CEO Scott Coker agreed, telling Helwani he was glad the company waited more than two years for Overeem — the "prodigal son" – to return. Provided Fedor defeats Fabricio Werdum in June, Coker said he’ll "have a serious conversation" with Emelianenko’s management about a fight with Overeem.

"Can I guarantee it? Absolutely not," Coker said. "We’ll sit down with M-1 after the next fight with Fedor and we’ll have that conversation with M-1."

Other news and notes from the CEO:

** Coker hasn’t talked to Jake Shields since April 17 but said other Strikeforce officials have spoken to the  middleweight champion. He said they’ll pick up contract negotiations again next week. Did he think it was inappropriate for Shields to show up on camera bro-ing down with Dana White at WEC 48? "You’d have to ask Jake," Coker said. So that means yeah, he did.

** Cris "Cyborg" Santos will defend her women’s title against someone named Jan Finney in June. Regardless of Erin Toughill’s recent Facebook rant about the living conditions in Strikeforce, Coker said she "just wanted to take some time off" and could return this summer.

** Jacare Souza was unhappy with his performance in victory over Joey Villasenor, but Coker said he thinks Souza is transforming into a top MMA fighter. Just one without cardio.

** Andrei Arlovski will be back … but he might have to make wholesale changes in his lifestyle and training first, the CEO said.

** Roger Gracie will spend the summer focused on the ADCC grappling championships, then will return to Strikeforce in (maybe) August. I know you’re all pumped about that.

** There are some lingering hurt feelings surrounding Lyle Beerbohm’s split decision win over Vitor "Shaolin" Ribeiro … but naturally Coker didn’t see the whole fight, so he couldn’t comment on it. Beerbohm may face Josh Thompson next, if he can overcome an arm injury suffered against Ribeiro.

** Coker stopped short of saying Rafael "Feijao" Cavalcante’s win over Antwain Britt had earned him a shot at moneyweight champion Muhammad Lawal. Coker would say only that it was "a step in the right direction." Feijao might have a rematch with Mike Kyle coming his way first.

Complete results:
Matt Ricehouse def. Gregory Wilson (Rear-naked Choke, 0:45 of Rd 3)
Thomas Aaron def. Eric Steenberg (Guillotine Choke, 0:56 of Rd 1)
Francisco France def. Lee Brousseau (Rear-naked Choke, 1:27 of Rd 1)
Michael Chandler def. Sal Woods (Rear-naked Choke, 0:59 of Rd 1)
Darryl Cobb def. Booker DeRousse (Split Decision)
Lyle Beerbohm def. Vitor Ribeiro (Split Decision)
Jesse Finney def. Justin DeMoney (Guillotine Choke, 3:22 of Rd 1)
Rafael Cavalcante def. Antwain Britt (KO, 3:45 of Rd 1)
Roger Gracie def. Kevin Randleman (Rear-naked Choke, 4:10 of Rd 2)
Antonio Silva def. Andrei Arlovski (Unanimous Decision)
Alistair Overeem def. Brett Rogers (TKO, 3:40 of Rd 1)

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Mofo- May 17, 2010 at 2:07 pm
"that is why you are a UFC fan and not an MMA fan"

EXACTLY. Think about it, Ratel. Open yo mind and think about the fighters, not the logos. UFC is just a business, like any other. Do you like Microsoft and McDonalds just because they're big?

Everyone who is just a UFC fan - I bet you only wear name brand clothes too. You think logo's = legitimacy.

@elentius - haha, dude you're just weird because you like Jardine based on *personality*.... WHA?? What personality are you referring to? That man is the walking dead, every time he opens his mouth. He doesn't have a beating heart. He is a zombie. Dead eyes. No life. No humor. No nuthin. But I guess you dig the creepy flesh colored beard? That's cool, man. That's just how you roll, ain't no thang.




Joedirt- May 17, 2010 at 12:24 pm
Ratel... that is why you are a UFC fan and not an MMA fan. How about Jake Shields? Don't think he would contend?
Elentius- May 17, 2010 at 6:56 am
I never gave Overeem a chance over the years and maybe that is because he has been out of the picture for a couple, but I must say that I am starting to like him. I usually pick my favorite fighters by personality and definitely stick with them through all the ups and downs so Overeem is now on my list of fav fighters after that interview;

GSP
Carwin
AA
Hendo
Overeem
Edgar (local like a sports team)
Jardine
etc. etc.
(those are probably not in any particular order)

I know... I'm weird.
Ratel Spicoli- May 17, 2010 at 4:58 am
So here it is - after reading some lucid, objective commentary wrt Ubereem, Fedor, Lesnar, et al. I find myself asking, "Who gives a shit? It's not the UFC, and nobody thinks a title holder outside the UFC is worth shit (when compared to their UFC counterpart) anyway.

Naturally, the exception to this is Fedor, but he's all alone since M-1 isn't worth shit either. For all the Ubereem pole smokers, do you really think he'd survive against a Lesnar, Carwin, Dos Santos or Velasquez? Magic 8-ball says "No," and I agree with it.

So, to sum up - outside of Fedor vs. whoever-is-the-UFC-HW-champ, Overeem can have all the titles (and time to defend them) he wants, 'cause they're second hand titles in a second rate organization.
Mr_Misanthropy- May 17, 2010 at 1:39 am
Finally, allow me to make a comment that is relevant to the article. I just... found... the Strikeforce fights and wow, how unimpressive. The Feijao/ Britt fight had the best actual striking during its brief duration, Souza looked really good but probably would have gotten fucked up (Stockton rules, homie) if it went another round, Silva's lacking a lot of power since he quit doing roids and doesn't weigh 300 lbs. anymore, and Overeem didn't knock my socks off with his decimation of an overly tentative Rogers. Rogers fought(?) a terrible fight and it took quite a few of Overeem's shots to put him away for a mere TKO, which makes me question the efficacy of all this horsemeat and butterfly curls. The announcing was so painful (are they actually getting worse with every show?) I had to nearly turn the sound off. Captain Obvious and the Cunting Linguist sounded about as articulate as eighth grade drop outs, and I don't even understand what purpose Gus Johnson serves (affirmative action?). It was all bundled together with the usual senseless graphics, pyrotechnics and general lack of professional polish that I have come to expect from Strikefarce. I guess at least they are consistent in that regard.
Mr_Misanthropy- May 16, 2010 at 10:28 pm
@ Almost Nerf

Ow bro, that stings.

I should have known something was up when I took her to the zoo and the elephants started throwing peanuts at her.

Dr Garbo- May 16, 2010 at 10:18 pm
94th!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Almost North- May 16, 2010 at 10:14 pm
Yo mama so fat she a regular commenter on Cage Potato.
Mr_Misanthropy- May 16, 2010 at 9:58 pm
I'm the Ken Shamrock of beating my tan colored cock.
Mr_Misanthropy- May 16, 2010 at 9:53 pm
Yo mama so fat she irons her underwear in the driveway.

Yo mama so fat she uses bacon for band-aids.

Yo mama so fat she could sell shade.

Yo mama so hairy, she look like a Chia pet with a sweater on.

Yo mama so hairy, she gots afros on her nipples.

Yo mama so ugly she gots ta git a baby drunk ta breast feed it.

And those were just off the cuff, meng. Like the way I used racially insensitive ebonic phonetics to enhance the "urban-ness" of the joke reading experience?
Almost North- May 16, 2010 at 8:54 pm
@mofo

I'm the Corey Hill of my Andy Wang
Almost North- May 16, 2010 at 8:50 pm
Awesome comments on this one. More anarchy than a Jeff Monson birthday party.

Oh and Dagnut, thats my bad, I thought you were saying that shit not mocking it. Got it all mixed up, but what else do you expect from somebody who makes mom jokes?
Mofo- May 16, 2010 at 8:48 pm
BTW, Overeem did piss in a cup for his PED test, but fuckin Lyoto drank that shit right away. Just snatched it up and chugged it.

So now we'll never know.

And now Machida is the Incredible Hulk. It's such a Marvel origin.
Mofo- May 16, 2010 at 8:42 pm
I'm the Frank Mir of my Scott Junk. I bend it over my thigh and snap it half.
Mofo- May 16, 2010 at 8:36 pm
@Rex - I've got an illegal 6 to 12.

Wait, let me take that one over again...

My penis is the Jon Jones of my pants.


@Misanthropy - awesome Buscemi reference! A great moment in cinema...

In fact, to all you who love to talk shit about Fedor, how about a nice warm glass of shut the hell up!


People are being overly harsh around here - Dagnuts is right, whoever said Overeem looked awkward on his feet was nutso, someone needed to set the record straight.

And whoever said Fedor is to SF what Kimbo was to Elite was only making the point that once you lose your one big star, it's over. Valid point, and often discussed.

And to Mr '95, man, half the FUN of Sundays is getting excited about the fight! Wait, that's the ONLY fun thing about Sundays. Why shit on the kids who are all excited? Looks like somebody's got a case of the MONdays...

Oh one other thing that needs to be set straight! It's background, not back round! Sheeeeee-it....

Now I'm gonna go be the GSP of bangin your mom... and by that I mean I jump on top and tear my groin muscle. And then hit her with it.

DazedNConfused- May 16, 2010 at 7:27 pm
Forgive me, I burnt out and forgot the UFC's future heavyweight champ:D Yes, but Carwin at number 3 for now!
Mr_Misanthropy- May 16, 2010 at 6:40 pm
Where's Carwin? He's going to kill Lesnar, mark my words.
DazedNConfused- May 16, 2010 at 6:27 pm
I cant believe some people are comparing Fedor... to Kimbo. MMA n00bs or what?

On topic, Overeem looked great and in very good shape. He dominated and outpowered a very large Brett Rogers. I also can't help but like the guy from his interviews. Seems like a good guy.

I have to admit I praise Fedor and he is one of my favorite fighters (Fedor, Wandy, Shogun, Silva, Crocop) but I am pretty worried for his fight against Overeem if it does indeed happen. Overeem has a good chance and it will no doubt be a huge fight. One of the biggest fights of 2010 in my opinion. Fedors getting old, so I'm hoping they will scheduale it soon.

I'd love to see both Overeem and Fedor in the UFC. Wow that'd be amazing. Like I said before I strongly think they are both top 5 heavyweights.
1. Fedor
2. Brock
3. Cain
4. Overeem
5. Mir (maybe...) Probably Junior Dos Santos.

And they would both pose some very profitable and enjoyable matchups. Ah that would be the day.
DazedNConfused- May 16, 2010 at 6:26 pm
Oh and I think Werdum, Rogers, and Overeem are all top heavyweights. Other than the UFC, Fedor IS fighting the worlds best heavyweights. Other than those 3, the only other people I would like to see him fight would be Velasquez, Dos Santos, and Lesner. Either way I agree, Fedor is getting older and he needs to be fighting as much as possible and they all need to be top level opponents. I hate it when a great fighter goes over the hill, finally fights someone he should have years ago, and then loses.

Fedor is one of the worlds best pound for pound fighters. There is no argument there in my opinion. The only question is, with his diet and overall style, how long can he stay dominant in this world of ever-evolving MMA fighters?
Dagnut- May 16, 2010 at 6:09 pm
@ Almost north...not that I care for the opinion of someone who makes "your mom" jokes but I said the same thing 18 months ago when he was rearranging Cro Crops gentleman vegetables..OVereem is a dangerous fighter, he can and will put people away.
Either way its irrelevant someone was claiming he wasn't good on his feet which in IMO is boll0x...only thing I would question is his heart...can he come back from being behind or being knocked down? I don't know but to question his technique is a joke especially from morons on this site who couldn't punch their way out of a wet paper bag.
Mr_Misanthropy- May 16, 2010 at 5:40 pm
Mark Kerr would whoop Ken Shamrock's ass, even if Frank jumped in to help.
Joedirt- May 16, 2010 at 5:40 pm
I'm not a Fedor nut hugger... I know he'll lose eventually... but to say he is or has ducked anyone is just stupid. Look at his record on wiki... he fought a list of tough fighters in their prime. Nogueira was 20-1 when they fought.... and is still relevant... beaten twice by Fedor, Crocop in his prime, Coleman, Goodridge... not big names now but weren't exactly chumps back in the day. I'm not saying he cannot be beat... I'm just saying he isn't ducking anyone.
Funny thing is both Fedor and Couture were in the King of Kings 2000, but didn't meet up.
HokeyPokeyLikeAoki- May 16, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Ubertesticularshrinkage versus Fedor and Lesnar in a 2-on-1 match would be FUCKING AWESOME!!! Couple of chairs, a ladder, and some outside assistance by trampy-looking "managers". Come on Coker, make it happen!

And didn't Chad Dumbas promise more weekend updates? FAIL.
Acrocerid- May 16, 2010 at 5:23 pm
Was this the new weekend guy? Sucks to have your work subject to public scrutiny, huh? Better shape up.
cecils_pupils- May 16, 2010 at 4:58 pm
@HokeyPokie... you are welcome. But, no sir... I will not say it. Not even if Ubertesticularshrinkage beats Fedor and Lesnar in a 2-on-1 match-up. Not even then will I say WAR OVER... see - still can't manage to say it.

However, I will say WAR 513!! I gotta admit, the Shamrockness is growing on me.

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