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‘Strikeforce: Diaz vs. Cyborg’ Aftermath: Oh, Nick Diaz, You So Crazy


(It’s a Nor-Cal thing. Or something. VidProps: MMA Fighting)

In successfully defending his welterweight title on Saturday night, Nick Diaz underscored exactly why he is Strikeforce’s most compelling and valuable property. Diaz possesses the total promotional package — the stand-up, the grappling, the trash talk, the antisocial personality disorder – and at this point it’s clear that Scott Coker needs his blend of credibility, charisma and troubled-foster-kid charm more than almost anyone else on the SF roster. We give him a lot of shit on this website (almost all of which he richly deserves) but after his command performance against Evangelista “Cyborg” Santos in this weekend’s main event, it was impossible not to come away with a greater appreciation for the wonderful train wreck that is Diaz.

From his recent conference call outburst to his shellacking of a game Cyborg to the fact that when the fight was over Diaz couldn’t wait to walk to the side of the cage, flip off some random hecklers in the crowd and call them “fucking bitches,” it was a pleasure to watch him work. There’s just something about this guy: We can’t take our eyes off him and yet as the video at top proves, it would be totally insufferable to actually be around him for longer than five minutes. In that way he’s kind of like a bizarre, badass Milla Jovovich.


Diaz struggled a bit early with the torrent of inside leg kicks from Santos – all of which he accepted without so much as a crack in his mean mug – but by the close of the first round you got the feeling we’d seen everything the challenger had to offer. Though Cyborg came out for the second just as eager as in the first (even again arguably controlling the opening few minutes), it was plain to see that the momentum was slipping away from him. Cyborg hit Diaz with bombs and the champ didn’t flinch. Diaz hit Cyborg with his patented pitter-pat straight punches and Cyborg looked prime for the slaughter. By the time the Brazilian muddled through a trip takedown with just over 30 seconds left in the round it was like you could hear the audience collectively muttering, “That may not have been the best idea.”

And it wasn’t. As soon as things hit the ground, Diaz made it look like all that stuff he’d done on the feet was just a goof. On the mat he was leaps and bound beyond Cyborg, taking all of 20 seconds to hook up an arm bar from the guard, grab a leg to flip Santos over and stretch him until he tapped. Then Diaz strolled calmly to the chain link to hand out his “fuck yous” for the evening, even throwing his mouthpiece into the crowd. When you consider that the object of his rage wasn’t rival Jason “Mayhem” Miller or prospective No. 1 contender Paul Daly, but reportedly just some random dudes who’d been yelling mean stuff at him from cageside, you get the idea what kind of guy we’re dealing with here. It’s also why a lot of people love him.

Diaz is certainly in a different marketing universe than uninspiring 185-pound champ Jacare Souza, who got rocked late in the first last night only to retain his title with a second-round choke-out of Robbie Lawler that felt more frustrating than anything else. As unstable as he is, Diaz is still definitely better for the sport than “fight ambassador” Herschel Walker, too. Walker looked decent in dispatching Scott Carson on the undercard, but without any kind of context for his no-name opponents it’s impossible to tell how seriously (if at all) we should be taking the former football player. Dare we say Diaz is more useful to Strikeforce than even Fedor Emelianenko who, if the company’s plans for its heavyweight GP work out, could finally see his first relevant action in nearly five years during 2011.

No, when you consider Strikeforce’s other legitimate promotional commodities: Alistair Overeem, who’s been most notable in the company due to his long absences; Gilbert Melendez, who is good but so starved for competition that Coker has to borrow guys from Dream and K-1 just to give him a challenge and Fabricio Werdum, who is yet to prove he’s not a one-hit wonder;  it’s clear that Strikeforce needs Nick Diaz more than Nick Diaz needs Strikeforce.

It also gives you a clue why he seems to have the upper hand in all of his negotiations with the company and why he chose to re-sign with Strikeforce recently. It’s good to be Nick Diaz right now, you guys.

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  1. Goog Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 09:14


    I don't remember reading how awesome it was when Lesnar threw the bird to some assholes in the crowd. Why you guys sensationalize this prick, I'll never know.
  2. LAS Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 09:16


    Fedor hasn't seen relevant action in 5 years? Sure, it's easy to retrospectively shit on Sylvia and Arlovski as opponents, but at the time he beat them, both were consensus top-10 HWs. And doesn't the fact that he lost to Werdum suggest that that was a "relevant" contest? And seriously, I hope you aren't paying whoever is supposed to be copyediting this shit.
  3. PERPATRAITOR Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 09:22


    So this past new years I met nick Diaz at the elevator in the mirage casino. As we went 7 stories up, I got my fighter pose picture and small chatted. Techniquely I got high(7 stories) with nick Diaz. He's really nice, but I'm a giddy nick Diaz superfaN....not a hater. He's the future in welter weight, sorry haters! Fucking bitches lol
  4. Big Shafty Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 09:33


    Nick Diaz... lookin at for the cops.... paranoid off the weed smoke.... my guess is both
  5. Dickface Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 09:34


    I thought Jacare choked out Lawler in th 3rd. Did I miss something?
  6. Get Off Me Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 09:46


    Yes Dickface, you missed the second round sub like me and herschel walker fighting on the undercard. This was yet another, that's right, another great card put on by strikeforce last night, it will be interesting to see how the articles on SF moving forward read. Remember my new years resolution for CP, no shitting on SF unless warranted.
  7. cecils_pupils Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 10:05


    I am re-posting this comment I made from the Strikeforce Live Results thread - I recommend reading the CP Nation commentary from last night.... always a good time! ;) _____________________ Damn I wish I had been able to watch this one yesterday and be online with y'all - the best part is reading the commentary from Potato Nation reg's when you haven't watched any of the fights. My Observations the Morning After: 1) steampunk22 was probably drunk last night, and he had one hellavu good time. I say, once again, that you should consider writing an article or two as I learned more form your comments than I would have listening to the Strikeforce color commentators. 2) CungwantsCookies made steampunk wish he had bought desert, and his description of Jacare's jits is priceless "his passes are jiu jitsu porn" 3) DangadaDang can double as rageguy - FFFFFFFUUUUUUU INTERNET!!! 4) rampageisgod has respect for Herschel and wishes the crowd would be more respectful in general - can't agree with you more, man. 5) If there are fights on jimbonics always has a good time no mater the fighter, no matter the card... it's ON! 6) ccman wins the thread for LOLZ with his anal rapeage of Cesear Gracie comment Can't wait 'til next Saturday!
  8. Turd Furgeson Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 10:06


    Eff Nick Diaz. You guys sit here and question Fedor's competition, then turn around and say how awesome Diaz is for beatin up a couple of little dudes, and a dude who's wife is bigger than him, and had a record of 18-13 comin in to the fight.. Gimme a break. How did Cyborg even come to deserve this shot? When's the last time Diaz fought a top 10 WW? Diaz would get smoked if he ever went back to the UFC. I think he needs Strikeforce more then they need him, so he still looks like he's even relevant at 170.
  9. halfbreed23 Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 10:10


    Which is the "one-hit" in Werdum's "one-hit wonder"? Fedor, Bigfoot, Kyle, Vera, Gonzaga, Aleks, or Alistair?
  10. Reverend_Clint Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 10:23


    the last time he fought a top 10 was Gomi in 2007 the last time he legally won a top ten was probably never. Maybe Robbie Lawler but i dont think he was top ten at the time, neither was Chris Lytle in 2002
  11. BigBalluh Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 10:37


    so turd, it's nicks fault he's in the 2nd tier organization in the sport, and dominates everyone? it's his fault for wanting a steady paycheck so he can pay his bills? how about you get real and quit hating on him for beating people, people don't think he's awesome for beating dudes, its the way he beats them, and how competitive of a fighter he really is. Sure he hasnt fought the UFC's welterweights, but he's in strikeforce you moron, what the hell do you expect, wait til he's in the UFC and see the results, then talk shit if he doesnt do well. til then your just making yourself look like a moron. ANYBODY that isn't in UFC is gunna get questioned. Overeem, Fedor (even though he destroyed nogueira, arlovski, and beat crocop in his prime), Melendez, and soon Jake Shields will see if he can hang with GSP. Quit hating on Nick for being a fighter you arrogant fuck, it's his job to beat people and he's on a 9 fight win streak, and all 4 of his losses in the UFC were close fights. Even if he's beating people not quiet at his level, he still dominates everyone of them. It's not his fault he's better then everyone in the organization, when his contracts up and he gets payed hes of course gunna go to the UFC, til then let him be a champion you dickhead.
  12. PERPATRAITOR Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 10:43


    @turd and reverend "Fuck you bitches" WAR DIAZ!!!
  13. DangadaDang Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 10:45


    @ cecils pupils The thing is, I'm a laid back individual 95% of the time, but that 5% happened to occur last night, when my feed decided to cut out at the ends of both the Walker and Lawler scraps, not to mention the stream on Sherdog of the undercard was rubbish so yeah...I'll take that title when necessary. Luckily I was able to see the whole Diaz fight which was worth the struggle.
  14. just some dong Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 10:52


    Funny article, especially the part about Diaz calmly handing out his "fuck yous" at the end of the fight. Though I'm surprised you put so much stock in this win for Diaz. Yeah, Nick's bad to the bone, no doubt. But his beating this punk blows you away? Pretty sure any UFC 155er would smoke Cyborg. And no way is Diaz a bigger draw for strikeforce than Fedor or Overeem... that's just crazy talk.
  15. DangadaDang Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 10:53


    And on a side note I think Mayhem is in for trouble if he ever fights Diaz.
  16. cecils_pupils Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 10:53


    @DangadaDang - I know, bro - that's what made it so great. It's not usual to see you get heated, but having your Internet cut out mid0fight will do that to anyone. It was more the way your said it and the timing - was perfect! :) FFFFUUUUU!
  17. RearNakedSpoon Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 10:55


    Diaz looks like a stray dog outside a deli in that video "ya kno"
  18. Lopes Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 10:57


    Who wrote this shit? How is Jacare uninspiring? Because he doesn't run around giving random people the bird? You probably love watching guys jack off in other people's food too.
  19. budsellers Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 11:00


    nick diaz is an excellent fighter and competitor, he is great for the sport. he is willing to engage with anyone, skilled in all areas, prepared to put on a show and unafraid of take a punch. i do not really care who he is, or how he treats people, but i think it is true that when it comes to being able to handle his own celebrity, he fails. i had the chance to meet him last summer when he was sitting across the aisle from us at ufc 117 in oakland. we said hi, got to shake his hand and wish him luck in his future fights, but all he really did was say "hey", nod his head and keep looking over his shoulder as we tried to speak to him. he did not seem pleased at all with our well wishes. perhaps he thinks nobody give a shit about him because he does not give a shit about anyone else. we did not even ask for a picture because, well, would you want that picture? he was sitting there for about half of the card and by the end of the night, he actually spent just about every moment of non-fight action being greeted by other fans; there was literally a line up the aisle at one point and the look on his face never changed. nate was much cooler and even smiling during most of these moments.
  20. LJM Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 11:36


    I'm frustrated with the writing here. So much of it is good, insightful, witty. But then you throw around words like "unstable," "train-wreck," and "anti-social." And based on a post-fight interview in which he refused to be entertaining or elaborate on simple feelings, he's "insufferable." Look, words have to mean something. Diaz is an unusual guy, he's uncomfortable giving interviews, and he makes himself angry in order to win fights. I understand how people wouldn't like his personality, sure. But he's not getting arrested, or beating people up outside of the cage. He's not in and out of rehab. People who are can legitimately be described as "unstable" or a "train wreck." When you use those words to describe a guy you just don't like, it's simply bad writing. You should try harder.
  21. Turd Furgeson Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 12:09


    @big balluh Yes it's his fault. If he wouldn't have acted like a complete retard and got kicked out of the UFC, maybe he would have been able to work his way up the WW ranks and challenge for the title or whatever. Probably not though, because he's a little faggot and would probably get smoked by Condit. Not to mention he jumps people then dodges them like the little pussy he is when they wanna fight him one on one. Don't give me this crap about a weight difference either. He went up to fight Frank Shamrock didn't he? He's just scared because he knows Mayhem will make him look like the clown he is.
  22. ccman Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 12:18


    My all time favorite past time in mma. Converting bums and washouts into legitamate competition for fighters we like while dismissing solid fighters as cans for fighters we hate. Ahhh home. Was anyone else shocked cyborg didn't cry blood? Someone elses blood of course.....
  23. RSparrow Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 12:45


    @Turd Diaz would destroy Miller. Millers stand up is nothing compared to Diaz's quick jabs and hooks. Goes to the ground, give me a break pal.
  24. Turd Furgeson Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 01:02


    @RSparrow That makes sense. I always refuse to fight people I know I would destroy too.
  25. myklhoey Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 01:02


    @rsparrow You may be right, diaz is a good fighta, sick on the ground and pretty desent on the feet, has good stanima, and alot of heart. But i think if they ever met, miller would would win, i just think his hate and appitite for revenge would fuel a fury of haymakers. MMA is a technical sport, sometimes wild hate can beat out skill. I thought thats how rampage was ginna come ot against evans. @perpatraitor you tell others "go fuck your self bitches" where im from the very deffinition of your name means bitch, busta, rat. you fuckin clown, keep your hands rapped around your ankels in stead of on the keyboard
  26. KarmaAteMyCat Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 01:25


    WHOA! I'm astonished I've never seen so much love for my mang Diaz! VIVA LA POTATO NATION. Haters eat a dick.
  27. KarmaAteMyCat Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 01:27


    The Thing about miller is he refuses to drop the weight for the fight, HE GETS TO WEIGHT IN THE DAY BEFORE. Which means he could weight in at 170 or 178 or whatever and then be back at 184 the next day. Theres this little thing we in the business call Serious fighters and Clowns.
  28. DangadaDang Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 01:28


    I'm sorry but what evidence makes anyone think Miller can beat Diaz? I like Miller and all, and I like Diaz to a degree, but come on people. Miller's biggest win in his career is over either Lawler or Kennedy, who he's gone 1-1 with. His resume is a who's who of middle of the pack fighters, past their prime fighter (not to mention Fucking Frank Trigg TKO'd him) and nobody's. I'm not saying Diaz has the best resume or anything, but he's looked a hell of a lot more dominant over higher competition then Mayhem ever has.
  29. RSparrow Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 01:36


    @Turd Refuse to fight? Diaz is the champ, Miller is not. We can speculate the outcome all day, but it won't do us any good. It's hard to make a claim that Miller will destroy Diaz when Nick shows exceptional well roundedness. When's the last time Miller has knocked someone out, and whens the last time Diaz has been knocked out? So do you mean destroy as in a submission? That arm bar was beautiful last night, give me a break.
  30. NorthSouthDudesOnly Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 02:30


    Cyborg would have been the greatest IFL champion.
  31. whitey Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 02:41


    WAR DIAZ!!
  32. ZiggysDick Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 03:10


    Nick Diaz should be in the UFC. I don't think it will happen any time soon, but there are tons of great fights for him there. Diaz/Fitch? Diaz/Alves? Diaz/Condit? I would pay to see any of those fights. His win over Cyborg was pretty goddamned impressive. Cyborg found a lot of success early on with those leg kicks, but when Diaz pressured him into the cage and unleashed that four-punch combo to the body and ended it with a hook to the head, it was clear that Cyborg was in over his head. The groundwork at the end of the second round was money. I guess Diaz/Daley is something to look forward to. Daley was in line for a potential title shot when he got cut, so Diaz/Daley is interesting from a theoretical MMA-math viewpoint. My hope is that Diaz puts on enough dominating performances in 2011 that DW relents and scoops him up. Diaz in the UFC would be fucking awesome. MMA is way better with Diaz in the sport than out of it. For sure.
  33. Invictis Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 03:22


    @Turd You're a fucking idiot. Learn a thing or two before you open your ignorant mouth please. He was kicked out of the UFC, but did you happen to notice shortly after he fought 2 fights with them and won both, and they actually offered him a contract extension which he declined, because it was something like 8k a fight with an 8k win bonus. And Mayhem? Are you fucking serious? He isn't relevant in the sport, no one, except for some dumb MTV bully beatdown fans know who he is, he's just trying to make a name for himself out of this, it's fucking hilarious. Cesar Gracie said Nick wants to fight him but why the FUCK should he move up for Mayhem's bitch ass? Mayhem has made 170 multiple times in his career, do it again if you want to fight the champ or keep your mouth shut, fucking little chimp with died hair running his mouth all the damn time, it's hilarious.
  34. ZiggysDick Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 03:28


    Even though Walker seems like a nice person, I will never root for him in an MMA match until he fights semi-legitimate competition. It would be much more gratifying to see a struggling, physically smaller, no-name fighter kick Walker's ass than watching Walker coast through his MMA career pounding on random dudes. Basically, I'm waiting for Walker's "Petruzelli fight". That will be a great moment.
  35. Turd Furgeson Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 03:30


    Sirs, please let me apologized for my lack of courtesy when responding to your comments today. After watching Diaz win last night, I woke up bitter and angry this mornin. I shouldn't have taken it out on my brothers here in the 'tater nation. I'm usually not so rude when debating others. Let me try this again.. I humbly and respectfully disagree with your assessment of Mr. Diaz in this article. I cannot recall a time that he defeated an opponent in the top ten. I may be wrong, but I do not think he would be able to take Mayhem. It would be a very good fight to watch, and I realize it could go either way, but I would prefer Mayhem to win on account of the fact that I don't like Diaz. @RSparrow and BigBallah I hope my attitude this morning didn't offend you, and that in the future we can have nice healthy insult-free debates.
  36. Turd Furgeson Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 03:49


    @Invictis I actually learned about Mayhem from his fight with GSP. I think that was a little bit before Bully Beatdown. I don't think Mayhem should have to cut to 170 to fight Diaz, because he didn't have any problem hitting him while Mayhem was at his full weight, and all of Diaz's boys were in the ring. Bottom line is; I think Diaz is a bit over rated. I would love to watch him lose. Nothing you said or will say could change my mind.
  37. ghostboner Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 03:50


    @Turd - My what lovely manners you have. Well said good sir. I got some mad respect for Nick DIaz's skills. That said, it is getting really old hearing him say "I'll fight anyone." Anyone you say? Anyone??? Catch my drift?
  38. Dirt Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 03:56


    Nick has the "mean mug' down, but man he has shits for personaltiy
  39. k-onda Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 04:52


    You guys sensationalize him because your style is more focused on the promotional/tabloid snipit aspect of the sport. I like Diaz cause he's a kick ass fighter - I love him for his ridiculous numb-chuck skills (no homo). If you really think about it, this sport is over loaded with dudes who possess less than perfectly articulate communicative abilities. PS. this Diaz/Daley talk is stupid as hell. Just more of the same old match up for Diaz. He's fought too many one-trick-ponies, he needs another with and all-round game, imo.
  40. k-onda Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 05:00


    Oh, and I almost forgot the most important thing about this fight, just like everybody else, I haven't mentioned...and it's another reason why Nick Diaz is a true badass. He made Mr. Cyborg cry on TV. Nothing else to say.
  41. fightfan Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 05:02


    This is typical Nick Diaz BULLSHIT. He hated getting beat repeatedly in the UFC, so he went the the fighters are of much less caliber. He has to be the one winning and in Strikeforce, where they have a problem even finding a "suitable" opponent most of the time. People talk about what a tool Lesnar is for his UFC 100 antics, yet talk about how awesome it is when this ghetto gangster does it. If a UFC fighter threw his mouthpiece at the fans and flipped them off, and repeatedly call them mf'ers it woudl be looked down on....but since Nick Diaz did it, again it is awesome and very marketable. This guy simple has a desperate need to be the big fish in a small pond. He doesnt want to go and fight guys BETTER than every one of his last 8 fights, because in the UFC the average fighter is better than all of his last oppoents.
  42. RSparrow Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 05:06


    @Turd No offense taken brotha, this is the wrong website for someone who gets easily offended. I bleed this shit.
  43. fightfan Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 05:09


    k-onda ........ You talk about Nick fighting another 1 trick pony in Daley. What do you think his last 2 or 3 years worth of opponents been??? Daley would actually have the best chance since Nick talks a lot about GSP and UFC fighter but would rather be a winner agasint sub par competition than fight the best. Strikeforce has so few fighters, yet alone decent WWs....Nick will be fighting guys for title shots that probaly would go 0-2 and out in UFC competition.
  44. KarmaAteMyCat Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 05:13


    @Fightfan He went the fighter are much less Caliber? Did you mean he went were the fighters are of less caliber? Because if that is what you mean he sure didn't do that by choice. Dana white even said as long as he respects Officials/Athletic Commission employee's he's welcome back. He understands that beyond that Diaz is going to be Diaz and you can fucking bet as soon as Nick is out of that contract he's heading back to the UFC. So kindly check your facts. I mean you are Fightfan after all.
  45. ccman Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 05:16


    Why miller is wrong. By ccman Miller is wrong since with sheildzzzzz gone he should be focused on thee weak ass 185 division and go for the belt. Diaz is all hype and ego. Go fight for the belt. Why diaz is wrong by ccman. Diaz has climbed weight to fight any over the hill or never was fighter out there. He made noons climb to him. He has said he will fight anyone, and 185 ain't outside his norm, and not like he risks his cardboard and glitter belt (its pretty when yer high) and to be fair, he did jump miller. Anyway, him and his idiot brother are money weight fighters, who at 170 is worth more financially? P.s. if he fights daley I might go as hoarse as santos when cyborg say "get over here and suck yo wifes cock" booing.
  46. ghostboner Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 06:02


    At first I agreed with the Lesnar thing, but after thinking about it I don't think the analogy holds. Lesnar was flipping off the entire crowd, and essentially, all the fans who were watching. Diaz was just jawing at some specific group of clowns who had been heckling him all night. Mostly just some gangsta bullshit. I will give Nick a pass on that one. Kinda. It is still stupid, but not the same as Lesnar's little snafu.
  47. KarmaAteMyCat Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 07:01


    Fuck Miller. he wants the champion drop to a catch weight thats reasonable. Sorry I disagree that's just not how it works.
  48. just some dong Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 07:17


    It seems that both Diaz and Miller are more interested in talking shit than actually making the fight happen. Sadly, neither one of them is any good at talking shit.
  49. ccman Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 07:49


    Sorry karma. Wrong. A. Diaz has recently fought at 185 and is more than happy to fight cans at 185. B. He Jumped miller. Sucker punched him. Face him. C. Miller does not want his belt no matter how much rainbow bright glitter they put on it (you don't really think sf spent money on those thing do you?) D. Belt holder? Sure. Champion? Not hardly.
  50. Ballkick Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 08:00


    If I were Mayhem Miller and got jumped by the 209 and his entire posse, I would be extremely motivated to drop to whatever weight Dick Niaz wanted. After rehydration and some horse tartar I would be sitting back around 185. I know there is no reason that Dick Niaz can't do a catch-weight, but if you agree to meet him at 170 then we'd see just who the scared homie is. I just want to see this score settled for my personal entertainment and if the two fighters can make a big payday in the meantime (and they would),....it's a win/win for everyone. interesting fact,.... Diaz's reach 74" Miller's reach 77" both 6'1" tall random fact,....Miller's middle name is Nick,.....I find that ironic.
  51. dranokills Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 08:28


    LJM Says: Sun, 01/30/2011 - 22:36 I'm frustrated with the writing here. So much of it is good, insightful, witty. But then you throw around words like "unstable," "train-wreck," and "anti-social." And based on a post-fight interview in which he refused to be entertaining or elaborate on simple feelings, he's "insufferable." Look, words have to mean something. Diaz is an unusual guy, he's uncomfortable giving interviews, and he makes himself angry in order to win fights. I understand how people wouldn't like his personality, sure. But he's not getting arrested, or beating people up outside of the cage. He's not in and out of rehab. People who are can legitimately be described as "unstable" or a "train wreck." When you use those words to describe a guy you just don't like, it's simply bad writing. You should try harder. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- How about the fights he has in hospitals, how about throwing water on other fighters to insight a fight with them, how about all the really classy talk he does? How about all the dope he smokes. Look dumb-ass people call him a trainwreck, and insufferable cause those are the goddamn NICE adjectives we can think of. Look at this video above. he won't look at Helwani, he wanders around the place mentally, can't focus, acts like he would rather has his spleen removed with a spoon than be there answering questions that are nice questions that are building him up. he blows it off, and acts a fucking fool the whole time. And then when asked " who was you saying fuck you to" he doesn't have the balls to say who it was? "its whatever...yeah its just you know"....what kinda pussy burn out answer is that? Look this topic is spot on he is fun to watch, but he is a mental midget with an attitude, and no matter how he left the UFC, he and his crazy fanbase can justify it anyways they want he would still be a small fish in a big pond in the UFC, period. He is a coward when it comes to Mayhem. I think he could beat Mayhem, but he keeps talking his stupid talk...walk around looking like someones always coming up behind him, non focused self and all his nuthuggers will keep liking that, well yippee for them and whoopdeeshit for him, stay in straikefarce crushing cans Nicky, and one day the odds will get ya.
  52. PERPATRAITOR Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 08:32


    @mklhoney Fuck you bitch I'm gonna perpatraite your old lady and take her out to a nice seafood dinner. Then never call her again!!! War Diaz!!
  53. KarmaAteMyCat Says:

    Sun, 01/30/11 - 09:46


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  54. KarmaAteMyCat Says:

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    You know, i used to hate this guy. Now I love him. I think he is in character when he is fight mode cause I see pictures of him at triathlons and stuff smiling and having a good time. Lets think for a minute why he gets so worked up before fights, maybe someone is going to try to punch a hole in his face and take his bread. I would get worked up to. I think he is honest and straight forward and makes no excuses. Nice to see in a game where everyone wants to love everyone before breaking a foot off in there ass. TWO middle fingers up for my boy. Don't be scared homies don't be scared
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  66. KarmaAteMyCat Says:

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    Extra 15lbs? So many fighters drop so much more then what Miller would be dropping. I know how extreme and how much weight cutting can be torture I do it every time I fight. Diaz and company offered Miller a catch weight at 178-179 Miller declined you fools keep claiming that he wasn't offered a catch weight. Sorry I don't jump on the hate wagon with you fools and make all sorts of outrageous claims. Such as how you guys completely tare him down at every chance you get which is so incredibly bias but lets not stop there you guys, take his word beyond out of context. Diaz would fight anyone you put at him at a reasonable weight for a reasonable amount. The guy just said He'd even do a boxing fight even though he new the mass amounts of retards would claim he was in over his head. Also Diaz didn't start all this, Miller did HE went into a CAGE after Shields had finished his successful title defense against Dan henderson and provoked a situation. What the fuck do you expect to happen? Did he think it was gonna be like the Rampage/Ryshad situation? Shouldn't miller be more worried about his own weight class and getting a strap? Perhaps becoming relevant in MMA. To say Miller wouldn't be doing this exact campaign of childish bullshit and ridiculous antics to Shields if he was still around EVEN though got his ass completely handled would eb absurd. GO ahead deny it because its completely true. Sorry you disagree and I'm even sorrier to those who feel they have to turn a friendly debate into a personal situation were you want to to degrade the other person. I won't play into that I will merely keep to the subject at hand. As for NinjaNerd Calling someone a Kid on the internet is about as low as Oh I don't know anyone can get? Perhaps if you try harder next time santa will bring you what you want for Xmas. silly person.
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  68. Get Off Me Says:

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