
("Yeah, I’ll take the soki soba, an Asahi, and 25mg of the…uh…you know…the usual." Photo courtesy of ESPN.)
We know what you’re thinking: Strikeforce’s 2011 Heavyweight Tournament isn’t nearly chaotic enough as it is, and it would be great if some of the fights were held in different countries like Canada and Japan. Basically, more moving parts is what they need, right? Scott Coker totally agrees with you. The Strikeforce CEO recently appeared on MMAJunkie.com Radio where he revealed that newly open-for-business Ontario, Canada, and Tokyo, Japan are both being considered as host sites for future fights in the HWGP.
"This is a world grand-prix tournament, which means we might not just be in the United States," Coker said. "This thing could be traveling."
Oh man. If Strikeforce wants to leave the country for the first time in its promotional existence and roll up to Ontario, good on ‘em, but let’s not pretend that holding a show in Japan would serve any benefit for this tournament except one — Josh Barnett would be able to compete there, even if the CSAC decides to blackball him next month for playing hard-to-get. But hell, what is Strikeforce going to do if Barnett battles his way to the finals? Multiple events in Japan, just for Josh? At that point, it’s easier to just swap in Shane Del Rosario and say Barnett had to withdraw due to a knee injury.
That being said, it’s obvious that holding heavyweight tournament events outside of the U.S. is simply a contingency plan being considered if domestic events become untenable. If Barnett gets his license re-instated next month, I’d be shocked if Coker mentions this globetrotting grand-prix business ever again. Cross your fingers.








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commentsI'll show you childish. I think the tournament is going to wind up like your face...ugly.
Despite the unusual and unorganised behaviour its the second largest MMA promotion in the world with some of the best fighters and its trying to create something momentous, so I see no need for all the negativity.
When Overeem fought for Strikeforce they independently tested him too. But piss tests are easy to get around, especially when their dates are known, not to mention HGH doesn't even show on these tests. And let's not forget Strikeforce events ARE commissioned.
For the last time, I am not trying to say Overeem isn't/wasn't on roids, but is totally ridiculous to imply that only Strikeforce fighters do so, or even that they to it more than UFC fighters. This is pure fanboism. Let's not forget Barnett used roids when fighting at the UFC, Tim Sylvia was caught too, Carwin was involved in a steroid scandal, Todd Dufee and Chael Sonnen do "steroid replacement therapy" and so on. There is no reason to point at Strikeforce aside from pure fanboism.
You want legitimacy, get your fighters tested. Especially when 25% of your tournament is comprised of previous steroid offenders and the present champion has fought 1 mma match in 3 years where an athletic commission was present.
For Overeem, it wasn't a gradual gain over 5 years. Putting that aside, Mir has passed all of his recent tests. I'm not trying to defend Mir (I don't particularly like either him or Brock), just doubting Overeem. Overeem has had a single test that it took him years to agree to. I'm fine believing him, I'd just like to see him fight regularly, and preferrably not just in Japan. Tests aren't perfect, but at least it lends some legitimacy. As does regularly beating quality opponents, which is another area in which Overeem is lacking.
All in all, it doesn't matter what my speculation is about Overeem, or about whatever fighters you want to say do the same thing. I just want to see him fight, regularly and regulated.
wahhhhhhhhhhh Brock and Mir do 'em too!
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Fact is, if you know any aspiring pro mma fighter you'd know most of them take roids at some point (just like probably a great part of pro athletes) and testing have not stopped them from doing so, it just ends in someone being caught from time to time (and made a villain of).
Also, it really doesn't matter if they took roids sometime ago, they still have many benefits from it. BTW, I forgot to mention the most obvious one, Shane Carwin, have you seen the list of PEDs he used to take?
Alright the timeline is fuzzy but its really not so dissimilar that you can say Mir was all natural while Overeem must of juiced so much his nuts shrunk fast enough for them to collapse in on themselves creating crotch dwelling blackholes.
Starting out slim as Overeem did maybe even helped as muscle growth tends to have diminishing returns.
I'm sure many people have doped the hell out of their system but never got anywhere near the results of Overeem, he still had to workout a lot to look like he does today IF he used PED's as people assume.
I'm sure Brock did his fair share of PEDs in the WWE days, but his bulk was put on well before entering MMA. Mir put on 10 pounds of muscle over 6-8 months, which isn't unreasonable. Also, both of them fight in regions where they are tested regularly.
So yeah, I think I'll focus on Overeem rather than your stupid 'everypbody does it' argument. I'd like to see him regularly compete in MMA where he is tested. Fuck it! I'd just like to see him regularly compete in MMA.
I wonder why....
I do believe Overeem took some kind of roids, just like most pro mma fighters, but it is totally ridiculous to focus only on him (and on Barnett, but at least that's because he's been caught tree times).
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