(It was like this, but smellier.) 

Whether you are a man of religion or a man of science, there are those few urban legends out there that, despite their lack of physical evidence or confirmation, are universally accepted as truth. So goes the story of illustrious judo champion Gene Lebell’s confrontation with the true Godfather of mixed martial arts, Sensei Steven Seagal.

The story goes like this: while on the set of Out for Justice, Seagal happened to mention that, as a result of his Aikido training and extensive blues guitar playing, his Senseiness was impervious to chokes. LeBell, who at 58, happened to be a stunt coordinator on set at the time, opted to take Seagal up on his boisterous claim. Seagal accepted, was choked out, and proceeded to pee and/or poop his pants. Due to an alleged gag order placed on everyone from LeBell to the cast and crew who happened to witness the event, no one has come forth in the time since to confirm or deny this story. John Leguizamo brought it up once, and was promptly beaten to a pulp.

Well let today, March 12th, forever be known as a triumph for the human race, as LeBell has finally broken his silence. And according to him, even if Seagal did in fact poop himself, it’s nothing to be ashamed of.

Join us after the jump for the full video interview, complements of MMAFighting, along with a transcription of some of the highlights. 

(“Don’s worry Anderson-Kun, that’s just my chi you’re feeling against your thigh.”)

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In the latest bizarre chapter in the life of “The Gimmer Man,” Seagal is being sued for non-payment to a former movie producer and business associate with mob ties for failing to pay monies owed to him.

According to a report from the Daily Mail, Seagal agreed to pay $500,000 to Julius Nasso, who he co-owned a film production company with until it dissolved in 2007. Nasso sued Seagal for $60 million back in 2002 for failing to deliver on four movies he agreed to star in, but the suit was eventually dropped after several months in the courts.