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The Potato Index: Post-UFC 90


Dana White’s UFC 90 video blog 10/25/08 – Watch more free videos
(The final UFC 90 video blog installment, just to wrap it all up.)

Who’s up? Who’s down? Who’s baffling us all with his performance? Who got drunk after the fight and let his entourage talk him into thinking that he did really well? Don’t worry, we stayed up all weekend crunching the non-existent numbers, and here’s what we came up with.

Anderson Silva: -3

Okay, so “The Spider” did not improve his public image on Saturday night, but at the same time he didn’t look at all vulnerable. When the most prevalent criticism suggests he was toying with his opponent, which implies he could have put him away at will, what does that even mean for the champ’s status? The Index is befuddled, but it still believes Silva is the world’s best fighter, even on an off night.

Patrick Cote: +5.6

The only thing Cote proved was something we already suspected: he has a solid chin. This alone might have bumped him up higher if only he hadn’t been caught on film during a post-fight delusion of grandeur. You did not fuck anyone up. If your friends really cared about you, they would tell you that.

Junior Dos Santos: +378

The night’s biggest underdog scores the night’s only knockout, and a brutal one at that. Out of nowhere and into the heavyweight spotlight. We’ll need to see him again before we can be sure it wasn’t just a lucky punch, but preliminary indications suggest this guy might have a real future in the UFC.

Thiago Alves: +113

Dominated Koscheck and showed the diversity of his skills in the process. An impressive, though not altogether unexpected performance. A title shot has to be next, once this superfight madness gets sorted out.

Josh Koscheck: -20

Kos apologists will point to the two-week notice on which he took this fight, and we’ll buy that excuse to a certain degree. But Koscheck still doesn’t look like championship material. More like a very effective gatekeeper who is a beast when he can enforce his game plan on you, but is at a loss for offense when he runs into a good takedown defense.

Gray Maynard: -72

Yes, he won. No, apologizing after a boring fight doesn’t work when boring fights have become your calling card. At least make a few token attempts at finishing the fight. You’re playing into the wrestler stereotype just a little too perfectly so far.

Sean Sherk: +17

Sherk’s stand-up has improved. He put on more of a show against Griffin than most of us expected, which isn’t saying all that much. The UFC still doesn’t want him screwing up potential lightweight title fights by beating top contenders, so where does he go from here?

Thales Leites: +30

An appropriately one-sided victory over the very mediocre McFedries, though that’s far from a step-up after the controversial split decision win over Nate Marquardt. We like what Leites has shown, but we need to see a rematch against Nate the Great to know if he’s for real.

Wrestler-heavy cards: -45

You put guys like Maynard, Koscheck, Griffin, and Sherk all on the same card together and you get what you deserve: a ton of decisions and a crowd that’s pissed off by the end.

Silva/Cote rematch talk: -157

Just because it was a freak ending doesn’t mean we need to see them go at it again. Cote showed he can take a shot, but since when is that alone the basis for a rematch? Please, let’s cut our losses here and move on before Silva retires.

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sPeLLcHecKeR- October 26, 2008 at 5:42 pm
Awesome is an understatement when in reference to everyone's growing concern for correct spelling!!! Cheers!

And I totally agree with the previous anonymous statement about the "Suddenly Sigmund Freud".

IMHO it'd be nice to see Spidey really move up to 205.
Malannon- October 26, 2008 at 5:22 pm
I'd say a rematch is not out of the question, but honestly I'd rather see Silva fight more at 205. Cote' is not much more than a stand-in #1 contender at 185. Props to him for putting together the win streak that he was on, equal props to him for running (COLD) Silva into the 3rd round. Had round three snuck up with more than what looked like a sparring contest, then I'd be more game to want a rematch. We want Hendo-Silva II, not Cote-Silva II. Hell, right about now I'd pay to see someone at least FINNISH a fight. UFC90: Lay and Pray
Anonymous- October 26, 2008 at 5:18 pm
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Anonymous- October 26, 2008 at 4:56 pm
I have never read so much adolescent armchair psychoanalysis as I have regarding Anderson Silva's performance following his fight with Patrick Cote. If Silva had won in his usual manner, nobody would have cared. He didn't behave any differently than in his other fights. He was doing his Anderson Silva "thang." It is only because he hadn't finished Cote by the end of the fight that everyone is suddenly Sigmund Freud. Get real, people. Silva was doing exactly what he always does. It was no different at all -- except that the fight ended with Cote's injury, not by Silva finishing him.
Jerryatric Peon- October 26, 2008 at 4:53 pm
mayhem - You got Yushin right but you completely fucked up my name. shame on you!

side note: ignore previous postings where I spelled my name "Geriatric".
Anonymous- October 26, 2008 at 4:29 pm
gave the first round to cote**
graygray- October 26, 2008 at 4:28 pm
Everyone is acting like if it got to the championship rounds Anderson Silva is the only one that is still allowed to fight? to be honest i gave cote the first round.. one of the major components of a judges scorecard is octagon control and aggressiveness, Cote dominated that. Silva did not do a thing. Secondly, he did do better then anyone against Silva thats a fact he went to the 3rd round. Im not giving him an absurd amount of credit for that because big deal hes in the fight in the third round, but who knows maybe Cote was planning on turning up the action in the championship rounds since silva has never been there. All im saying is everyone is making it seem like Silva had it totally under control and blah blah blah, theres a reason for him doing what he was doing, perhaps cote threw his game off and perhaps he WAS afraid of his power but really we'll never know
mayhem420- October 26, 2008 at 4:25 pm
@Brad
"Regardless of what is said, Cote was in there."
In the ring, yes.
I also agree that had his knee not blown out he could have had a shot...
Punchers chance and all that jazz. However that does not mean he should be getting a rematch any time soon.
I agree with Geriatric Peon that Yushin should get the next shot at the MW title.
If he can stop getting hurt that is. (did I spell all of that correct??)
Teila Tuli's Tooth- October 26, 2008 at 4:22 pm
Agreed, but that doesn't mean he deserves a rematch.
Anonymous- October 26, 2008 at 4:22 pm
you guys bore me come on it not cote fault that anderson silva didnt fight is best and getting hurt never make anybody happy espescially if you are the one getting hurt.

dont get me wrong i am a big fan of silva but you guy are so in love with de spider that any logical raison for him not give is best was just that not giving his best did you ever stop and thing that maybe cote did presented something that mayde silva cautious or yeah cote took afew solide shot and some knee i did not see him wobbling all over the place.

and you no what if all tyhe fight ended in a minute with tko it would be fun at first added then it would get boring

we need fight like these to make sure that when we see something spectacular
it just that spectacular

i love this site but you give are very quick to jugde but as i recall you give
didnt predic anything that happen that night so it easy to complain

i paid for the pay per view i love this sport and if you payed for it
and your are saying you will never buy an other then you are not a truth fan
Brad- October 26, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Regardless of what is said, Cote was in there. Had his knee not blown out who knows what the outcome would have been.
Anonymous- October 26, 2008 at 4:09 pm
I think at some point he was trying to cast a spell or was practicing his weaving technique
Juicehead666- October 26, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Hey, what is with you picking on Wrestlers? I am a former division 1 wrestler and I don't think watching former wrestlers is boring. If you don't watch yourself, I will find out where you live and come over there and lay on you until you take your comments back. I have my eyes on you....
VEe!- October 26, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Brad
Cote did not win ONE round. Where's the argument for a rematch?

Besides that, do you want to wait for Cote's torn ACL to heal? There are only two fighters who actually won a round against Silva, that's Lutter and Henderson. Cote's claim to fame is a rock solid chin, KO-powered hands, split decisioned Almeida, and completed 2 rounds with Anderson Silva.

Cote beat McFedries, Grove, Day but got beat by Lutter. Rematch . . .
Cage Potato index -157 still stands. The UFC will not wait for an ACL to heal. Okami or a 205lbs'er next.
Geriatric Peon- October 26, 2008 at 4:02 pm
SPELLING PEOPLE!!!!!1!!!!!111!!!! What kynd of low class forum ru guys runnin' when ic numerous ppl wit spellin errors.

Side note. Congrats to me for getting Yushin Okami's name spelled correctly earlier without looking it up. I took a guess and went with it, but it was before the anal spell checkers sounded off a warning.
mayhem420- October 26, 2008 at 4:01 pm
@Jburg
Get the sand outta your vagina. I failed at proff reading, thats all.
MeatHookJones- October 26, 2008 at 4:00 pm
@Brad

Your a fucktard. Cote has as much chance of beating Anderson as you do of posting an inteligent comment. We all saw the fight of course they were both working counter punches, except for that to work someone needs to throw an acctual offensive punch first. Cote doesn't deserve another fight. The only thing Cote did do was come in in some sort of shape, not allowing me to call him a chubby Canadian on the forums today.
Brad- October 26, 2008 at 3:58 pm
I think the problem with the Silva/Cote fight is that they both wanted to work counter punches and that never leads to an exciting fight. I honestly still think Cote has the best shot at MW to unseat Silva right now. Let's see what Okami can do too because he had Franklin in some serious trouble in their fight.
mayhem420- October 26, 2008 at 3:56 pm
@Aptninja
"I think it’s a testament to the ignorance of a lot of the UFC’s fan base that people are criticizing Silva for “not doing anything.” The man put on a defensive clinic."

So dancing around, not dodging punches but dancing around and then offering a hand to help up a fighter during a fight is putting on a defensive clinic?
If you want to see a defensive clinic then watch a Loyoto fight. What Anderson did was not fight at all but make a mokery of the fight he was in.
Jburg- October 26, 2008 at 3:56 pm
@mayhem420

I'm not sure who Syliva is (Anderson "The Tongue" Syliva?), and I'm sure Sylvia didn't fight, but one thing I'm sure about is that I get pissed when people can't spell a name. Especially when said name is posted all over the page you are posting on. Your post lost all credibility when you failed to spell Anderson Silva's last name correctly.

P.S. +17.9 for CagePotato for ranking these almost identically to how I would.
alan- October 26, 2008 at 3:47 pm
there is nooo chance at all cote will get a rematch with silva...whyyy waste his few fights left on crap fights like this id rather see some super fights!
1glove- October 26, 2008 at 3:41 pm
If there is a Silva/Cote rematch it better be for free, what a waste of money, I will never pay to see that fight again!
Spence- October 26, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Sylvia fought? Damn I must have missed that match.
Aptninja- October 26, 2008 at 3:35 pm
The UFC wants to sell tickets, and I don't think a Silva/Cote rematch is going to sell nearly as many as Silva/Some Light Heavyweight.

More importantly, though, I think it's a testament to the ignorance of a lot of the UFC's fan base that people are criticizing Silva for "not doing anything." The man put on a defensive clinic. And how must he have felt coming into that fight? The only way he can please the fans is to knock Cote out in the first round; if he wins in less than spectacular fashion everyone talks about how Cote was a joke opponent anyway, and if he loses he's screwed. And how, exactly, might Silva lose to Patrick Cote, knockout artist with a rock chin? Maybe by getting caught when he tries to knock him out in the first round.

It sickened me to hear the boos and it sickens me now to see the comments on the internet. Silva picked Cote apart. You want him to win? Fine. You want him to win most of his fights by knockout? That's cool. You want him to win every fight by knockout, in the first round, and he should put his belt at risk so you never get the feeling he's protecting himself? Shit, man. What are you gonna want next time?
Geriatric Peon- October 26, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Cote definitely shouldn't get a rematch until Yushin gets his shot (ranks higher than cote) unless Okami hurts himself again.
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