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Thiago Alves Fails To Make Weight

(Were it not for his Snickers addiction, he could have been a contender.)

You know what sends a negative message about how prepared and mentally focused you are for a fight? Missing weight. Especially when you’re in the main event. That’s what Thiago Alves did, clocking in at 174 pounds for his welterweight bout with Matt Hughes at UFC 85 tomorrow.

It’s not a title bout and they’ve agreed to fight it as a catch weight (meaning Hughes is going to go ahead and spot him the extra weight), so it’s not exactly a disaster. Still, when your opponent hits weight exactly at 170 and you come in four pounds over, it lets everyone know that one of these men is a professional and the other, well, maybe not.

What’s more, Hughes is known for cutting a lot of weight himself, so those extra pounds probably won’t be much of a help to Alves once they step in the Octagon. It just makes him look bad, without the added benefit of giving him an advantage. In the past, Alves has struggled making weight, even testing positive for a banned diuretic after his win over Tony DeSouza.

In other Alves-related news, it seems like there’s some disconnect over the Thiago Alves story. You know how Kevin Iole at Yahoo! Sports likes to seize on some aspect of a fighter’s life that isn’t really related to fighting, and then hammer that theme relentlessly until he’s reached a sufficient word count? Well, Bloody Elbow maintains that Iole has screwed up the easiest part of that formula, all by adding one letter that doesn’t belong.

You see, Iole’s story, Alves banking on win over Hughes, is all about how his family is in the banking business in Brazil, and how Alves broke tradition by becoming a fighter rather than a financier. Trouble is, a Sherdog story from November tries for a similar theme, only it claims that Alves’ family is in the baking business. As in bread and stuff.

I hate to state the obvious, but those are two very different businesses.

It’s possible that because of Alves’ accent you might think he’s saying banking when really he’s saying baking, or vice versa. Or it’s possible that Iole needed a theme quick and didn’t bother to really check on it. Or, who knows, maybe they really are in the banking business. Maybe they’ve diversified since the Sherdog article. Maybe everyone’s right.

Odds are, though, at least one person is wrong. You can make up your own mind who that person might be.


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teachbug- June 6, 2008 at 8:35 pm
amazing he didnt make weight, and yet still handed Matt Hughes his worst ass-beating ever :)
This tells me that Hughes little tale-tale story about having a few more fights left in him be fore he retires was crap....he actually had NONE left in him, and he is officially a has-been washed up country boy with no skills :)
Its a good day!
Apexified- June 6, 2008 at 2:45 pm
... maybe we should just hand them a scalpel while they're on the scale and have them cut off the excess weight.
.- June 6, 2008 at 11:50 am
NealTaflinger- June 6, 2008 at 10:35 am
I'm sure if you guys fucked up at your jobs you would demand to be docked pay and suspended for a year.
Anonymous- June 6, 2008 at 10:03 am
sweet fucking christ! DONT go to
R.KEEGAN- June 6, 2008 at 7:09 am

His famliy are bakers not bankers,alves said he was "FAT MOST OF HIS LIFE"
from eating cake and bread every day at his famliys bakery which was also his house.


Gina- June 5, 2008 at 11:06 pm
omg silly Kimbo Brett so true.
Kimbo brett- June 5, 2008 at 11:04 pm
brice <------ no they gave gina a break cause those fat tits shes gots! those things must be like 5 pounds each or so ;)
dr. whup ass- June 5, 2008 at 10:29 pm
yup Kevin lole is an Asslole HAHAHA banking business to baking business what irresponsible journalism I hope Yahoo fires his dumb ass
Spacealias- June 5, 2008 at 9:46 pm
Solution: Have Weigh-ins the morning of the fight. Fighters will either have to risk cutting all night and then hope they can recover in 8 hours for the fight that night or... Fighters will begin to just fight in their own real weight classes. Guys like Thiago Alves only weigh 170 for like a half hour at a time (obviously not today though) and then go back to their real weight of 185. He would probably have to do a little dieting just to make a 185 fight. If the weigh was on fight day, you would see a lot less cutting of 15-20 pounds to make a fight.
TheFeniX- June 5, 2008 at 8:21 pm
@ Don Cherry

Holy Shit! A gay joke circa 2008. Your originality knows no bounds. Truly, your ability to spout sexual slurs is a credit to your species.

Guess what? Weight-classes exist. Fighters sign contracts to fight at a certain weight. When you break the most basic aspect of a contract, no matter how stupid you might think it is: that makes you look like an asshole (an affliction I'm sure you have a lot of experience with) and you make the average "fan" think twice about the legitimacy of the sport.

Weight classes might not have meant much back when MMA was just a no-holds barred blood-sport and the average bar-room brawler thought BJJ was some new type of oral sex, but as a rounded-out and legitimate fighting sport: they do their job.
sol- June 5, 2008 at 8:11 pm
no excuses to not make weight, ridiculous, you have been booked for a fight for how long and cant make weight? piss poor, he should take a purse cut like Carano did.
brice- June 5, 2008 at 8:05 pm
i think the gina thing is different. she really only had a few weeks to train and cut weight. thats a non-issue. but thiago had all the time in the world. he definitely should have made weight. what a tool.
KG- June 5, 2008 at 8:01 pm
Um... Royce Gracie vs. Ken Shamrock anyone? Who cares about weight classes in MMA, when guys like Roger Huerta or Kenny Florian could dominate a fat black homeless guy named Kimbo.
Don Cherry- June 5, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Cutting weight is for fucking ballerinas and gymnasts.
Ive seen more massacres when two guys are of the same weight than mismatched.

Fedor was wht....40pds heavier than Lindland?

Bob Sapp has fought short little japs and no one died.

Oh my god, he's 3 pds over.

One weight class you bunch of whining homos.
mayhem420- June 5, 2008 at 7:01 pm
During the UFC pre fight hype that they show before each pay per view on SPIKE
It even says how Alves's family owns a bakery and when he was a kid he was fat cause of all the goodies he ate. This is why he started training so he could lose weight and be more popular with the ladies.
Iole is a moron. Guess he does not watch SPIKE.
C-Bus Allstar- June 5, 2008 at 6:57 pm
I'm with you Fenix. Cutting weight is just as integral a part of training for an MMA fight, as lifting heavy shit repeatedly. If you can't fuckin' do that, then go flip burgers.
TheFeniX- June 5, 2008 at 6:44 pm
God damn it.

Alves can kiss my ass for making me root for Hughes. As much as I dislike Hughes, I actively despise "professional" fighters who can't make weight. Seriously, out of anything you have to do to prepare for a fight, is laying off the Big Macs for two weeks THAT hard?
MMANewbExpert- June 5, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Maybe Mr. FattyMcFatFat and Mrs. FattyMcFatFat should have fat kid together. I can totally see it now. Gina and Thiago get together and have a kid. Unfortunately the doctor has bad news. "Sorry Mr. and Mrs. McFatFat we tried to deliver your baby at 7lbs and 6oz, but he came out at 8lbs 6oz so we threw him away"
Kevin Marshall- June 5, 2008 at 5:49 pm
I agree with the above in the sense that bottom line, dudes gotta start fighting at their own natural weight. I accept that cutting weight is a part of this sport, but when you're having to cut in excess of 15 to 20 pounds every fight (Travis Lutter and Gabe Reudiger), then it's time to move up.

Besides, he could probably make more waves in the less competitive Middleweight Division. Sure, he'd eventually be destroyed by Anderson Silva (assuming he doesn't get so bored he up and leaves the division permanently), but it's not like Alves is in any danger of beating Georges St. Pierre either.
fightfan- June 5, 2008 at 5:32 pm
Penalties should be stiffer than what they are now if you CANNOT make weight. It is a given that people weigh up to 20 above the weight classs they fight and "cut" weight to try and gain every little advantage they can.

Carano is a prime example. That is such b.s. If you are going to be a professional and want to fight at a PARTICULAR weight, the nyou should be ABLE to make weight, NO EXCUSES!!!!

Let me know what you guys think about this. I think this would be a hell of a deterrent and people would make DAMN sure they made weight. The PENALTY for NOT making weight should be ass follows.......

If a fighter "misses" or cant make the 170 weight class(WW) as Thiago Alves just did. His PENALTY should be, of course a fine, AND he automatically has to move up a WEIGHT CLASS.....Therefore for not making weight, Thiago should have to fight at a class he CAN MAKE WEIGHT, in this case, the next weight class middleweight. I am willing to bet that something like this would make people take weight classes a little more seriously. RIGHT, why not a penalty like this, IF you want to fight at WW and DO NOT MAKE WEIGHT, then you should be required for all future fights to fight at middleweoght!!!!

If you want to fight at 170, welterweight, asking you to weigh in at or below the 170 limit is NOT a LOT TO ASK!!!!
Dota- June 5, 2008 at 5:31 pm
lol @ perkedel
Myles Kilometers- June 5, 2008 at 5:23 pm
Bakers, huh? Maybe that's why he's so doughy.
perkedel- June 5, 2008 at 5:20 pm
What? No Gina comments yet? I'm disappointed ...
Dr.- June 5, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Too much time spent F-ing the B's and not cutting. Strike one of a two-strikes-and-you're-out situation that Lutter experienced. Piss poor... Piss poor.