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Thiago Alves to Fight GSP-Penn Winner

(Great fighter, but he’s absolutely terrible at rock-paper-scissors.)

During a Q & A session in Fayetteville, N.C. to hype up tonight’s “Fight for the Troops” card, Dana White revealed that Thiago Alves is going to get the next crack at the welterweight strap after the Georges St. Pierre-B.J. Penn bout at UFC 94, and it doesn’t matter who’s got it around their waist at the time:

"He’s next in line for a title shot. If GSP beats B.J. Penn, then (Alves) fights GSP. If B.J. Penn wins, then he fights B.J. And then he’d have to defend that title for a while before I let him move up and try to fight Anderson."

Sounds like we’re getting a little ahead of ourselves.  The first thing Alves would have to do before any of this can happen is make weight for a 170-pound title fight.  That means no one-pound allowance, so he might as well start weaning himself off the Creamsicles right now (but OMG they’re so good!!!!).

This also means that a potential GSP-Anderson Silva bout is but a very distant dream, as St. Pierre would have to beat Penn, then beat Alves a few months later before we could even talk about that superfight.  If Penn wins, it will continue to screw up the lightweight division, as he’ll be expected to fight Alves and poor, patient Kenny Florian – that is, if the UFC allows him to try and defend both titles, which they shouldn’t.

I’m just saying, a lightweight tournament for a vacant 155-pound title sure sounds fun, doesn’t it?

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hiphopanonymous- February 3, 2009 at 6:14 pm
haha so everyone thinking bj would beat gsp is feelin mighty stupid right now lol and gsp vs. silva would be a sick fight, i dunno- silva's undefeated (except for the one heelhook loss that i've seen), and gsp is a great fighter also... does silva have good groung fighting (better than gsp's?), cuz i would say silva would win with stand up, but gsp would take the ground... its the only time u ever see silva really getting hit)
degree- December 28, 2008 at 11:16 am a douche. what makes sense is you having to deal with bj having 2 titles next month.
Blaphtome- December 17, 2008 at 11:11 am
Yeah creamsicles and D-bol.
dualdiagnosis- December 10, 2008 at 11:25 pm
Awesome! Dana cracks the door open for BJ. BJ is fighting for his legacy now, he will beat GSP and he wants to beat Anderson to stake his claim as the greatest ever. The fight against Alves will give Penn the credibility he needs after taking out GSP, and the leverage, to face Silva.

BJ will walk away from the LW division after GSP, so don't cry for KenFlo, Sherk or Diego.
Imbecile- December 10, 2008 at 3:40 pm
@ Anonymous

LOL at Penn beating Anderson Silva!!!

I say LOL to you Sir!

Blitz- December 10, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Title holders shouldn't be able to change weight classes, they're the leader of the divisions and they screw everyone else over when they move around. My respect for Bj went down a notch.
Anonymous- December 10, 2008 at 1:20 pm
So if Penn > Silva, and Silva > "285lb brock"
165ish Penn > 285lb brock?
Imbecile- December 10, 2008 at 1:03 pm
I think Thiago Alves should win one more competition before he gets a title shot. He needs to win an episode of "The Biggest Loser," with other contestants including Paulo Filho and Gina Carano.
Anonymous- December 10, 2008 at 12:39 pm
the again you cant say he will,because it will never happen so bringing it up is completely pointless
lilpo0ts- December 10, 2008 at 12:11 pm
penn deserves a rematch just like everyone else. penn an stop gsp..technically he stopped machida when you look at the way they scored the fight they had awhile back. who can stop bj. anyone can be beat. GSP by Serra. but who can actually STOP bj? gsp couldnt do it ,it went to decision. penn beat himself when he went against hughes. bj is an assett to the sport regardless, he has alot more experience than most of the talent in UFC. thats why white gives him so much leeway. he will fight anyone..and its hard for UFC to get people to go up against silva and the majority of his fights were cans. what can has bj penn fought? thats how i see it.

GSP > Silva
Penn > Silva
Alves < or = Silva
Henderson > or = Silva

4 fights you will never see. and when you do see it, silva's opponent will be considered the next big thing

oh and i have to say it ... silva could definately beat 285lb brock..

dont flame me cause you know it true and you cant prove me wrong cause it will never happen

Creamy CA Roll- December 10, 2008 at 12:04 pm
I didn't mean a one night tournament. But still think about it: it's still gonna have to be spread out over months before you advance to the next round. If a fighter wins but has a broken finger, he won't be cleared in time for the next round even if it's 2 months away - still giving an opening for an alternate. Plus the quickest way to settle this tournament will still take at least 6 months. Plus there's no way that Dana will put on two events back to back featuring 4 lightweight fights each
B- December 10, 2008 at 10:59 am
Its not a one night tournament...

This is America, we don't do that shit anymore!
Creamy CA Roll- December 10, 2008 at 10:39 am
Am I the only one not feeling the idea of a LW tournament? I mean, didn't we learn anything from DREAM. Look at what happened with Eddie Alvarez. The medical suspensions can seriously fuck things up and then we'll end up with an alternate possibly winning the whole thing - kind of leaves a bad taste in your mouth. An interim belt, while not perfect, is a better solution
K.E.G.- December 10, 2008 at 10:11 am
Light Weight tournament would be awesome. There are so many potential geat matchups there. Also Alves making 170 on the dot will be hard, he's gonna have to start dieting now, and skip his next couple cycles then who knows what kind of shape he'll be in when he fights GSP. And BuckWild if you are correct except Evans, realy? The only reason I would like to see that fight is the possible chance that Evans might die and we would never be bothered by him headlining a PPV again.
Old, Bald and Irish- December 10, 2008 at 10:02 am
I know it kinda looks like Dana screwed things up, but give the guy a break. There was NO WAY he'd walk away from a Penn/GSP superfight. He's probably still snickering like a giddy schoolgirl over it. Did he look far enough ahead to the possibilities? A little, but not completely. Did he care about screwing over Kenny "Hell-bows"? Absolutely not. KenFlo's getting the short end of the stick. He's a good soldier, so I'm sure they'll make it up to him.

I like the interim belt idea. If Penn takes GSP belt, he can't defend both. Since we know BJ's love of Buffalo Wings and Hawaiian Pork Rinds, chances are Penn will want to defend the welterweight belt for a while. Put together an interim lightweight belt match for Florian. Once Penn is done playing in the 170 pound pool, unify the belt with Penn/Florian; assuming Florian wins and defends the belt.

Regardless, there is too much talent at 155 to have everybody waiting for Penn. I have no problem with Penn, or Silva, moving around in weight classes because I'm all for these superfight match-ups. But if that's where the UFC is going, give the other fighters the respect that's due them and keep the belts active.

Giving K-Flo a shot at an interim belt won't satisfy him, but it will probably keep him happy until he fights Penn. K-Flo knows it won't be legit until he faces off with Penn. He's a warrior and I bet he'd be the first to admit that if he won an interim belt.
Anonymous- December 10, 2008 at 9:35 am
Since IMO there is not a hope for BJ, I think GSP vs Alves will have some excitement, I can't see Alves being the one stopping GSP let's just fast forward to the superfight save all the drama! And I still take GSP over the Spida too! why does Dana have to fuck everything up?
BuckWild- December 10, 2008 at 9:34 am
I don't think Anderson will get beat until he fights someone like Wandie or Page or Evans
Anonymous- December 10, 2008 at 9:20 am
haha! Good one!
Imbecile- December 10, 2008 at 9:19 am
This is why you don't give into a dipshit like BJ Penn, and his absurd demands for title shots in other weight divisions. But they already messed that up...

What they should do is have Kenny Florian fight Thiago Alves for a catch-weight Interim Light-Welterweight title (which Florian would win by default since Alves can't even make his own weight class). Then, the winner of that should fight GSP after he goes up in weight to fight Anderson Silva. If GSP somehow pulls off that win, then he can drop back down to 170 to defend his Welterweight and Middleweight titles, and fight for the Interim Light-Welterweight title all at once. Also, they should take BJ Penn out to the Nevada desert, and just deal with him like they did back when Bugsy Siegel ran Vegas.

That really is the only scenario that makes sense.
Anonymous- December 10, 2008 at 9:14 am
I hope GSP wins against BJ, so it will be GSP vs Thiago Alves and BJ vs Kenny Florian.
If BJ wins, its fucked up.
BuckWild- December 10, 2008 at 9:14 am
I agree with Jugger.

I think Silva would take all of them. I think the only way Silva will be tested or beat is to move up to LHW and fight some of the best there.

GSP will stay champ for awhile Thiago does have a good chance though.
annoyed with the lightweight belt- December 10, 2008 at 8:50 am
unless BJ is forced to drop the lightweight belt if (and that is a BIG IF) he wins against GSP, it will be well over a year by the time he defends it.
that is bullshit!
there should be a rule that barring an injury, the title holder must defend at LEAST twice a year (preferably 3 times).
I love the marquis matchups dont get me wrong, but belt holders have to defend, otherwise why have a belt in the first place.
Kadumel- December 10, 2008 at 8:44 am
I'd hate to be Kenflo right now.
Kadumel- December 10, 2008 at 8:38 am
I'd hate to be Kenflo right now.
pd- December 10, 2008 at 8:34 am
this really sucks for florian