
(Maybe Thiago should concentrate more on cutting weight, not on updating his Match.com profile)
When Thiago Alves missed a scheduled appearance at yesterday afternoon’s open UFC 117 workout, it didn’t take long for reports to surface that the American Top Team fighter, who has been plagued with weight cutting issues in the past, was having problems shedding water and that he chose to forgo the media event to focus on making weight for Friday’s weigh-in.
Alves tweeted yesterday that he just had 15 pounds to go before he makes the 170-pound limit, which is at the higher end of the poundage most fighters start cutting at the beginning of the process over a week out from their bouts.
MMAFighting’s Ariel Helwani caught up with Alves’ opponent on Saturday night’s card in Oakland, Jon Fitch, at the workout at the UFC gym in Concord, California and the American Kickboxing Academy fighter is not one bit pleased with the situation.
(Video courtesy YouTube/MMAFighting)
For all of you Potatoheads who prefer to read the text version of the interview, here it is:
"It’s laughable. He’s still got plenty of time, so I’m not worried. With all that’s happened around this fight, I can’t get any more stressed out about it. It is what it is and I have faith that he’s gonna make weight…We knew this was always a possible situation. He’s had issues in the past with making weight and he’s had a long layoff. So [with] all those factors together we knew that there was a possibility that he would be over weight for this fight. Still, he’s got time to make the weight and I’m sure he’s gonna make the weight."
Although he says he’s confident that Alves will make weight, Fitch says that if
Thiago doesn’t make the requirements in time, he wants "Pitbull’s" camp to agree that he will make 170 at some point before the fight, even if its less than 24 hours from the opening bell.
"I’m not looking for a scenario like [he had with] Matt Hughes and [was over by] eight pounds. That’s pretty ridiculous. A pound is fairly forgivable, but if he can’t make the weight at the weigh-ins on Friday at four o’clock, I’d still like him to make the weight before the fight some time. So if he doesn’t make it at four on Friday, make it at seven or eight or nine or midnight, or whenever. Just make the weight."
"If you have this many issues with not making weight they need to figure something out more than the twenty percent penalty cos’ it doesn’t seem like that’s motivation enough for people. It keeps happening. We’re a professional sport and part of the job is making weight."
On another note, Fitch says he would "be a bit perturbed" if Jake Shields beats Martin Kampmann and gets a title shot against the winner of St-Pierre-Koscheck next, believing that the former Strikeforce champ needs to earn the shot like everybody else in the division.








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commentsAgreed, he's packing 25-35lbs of creatine, protein, nitric oxide and that ambiguous MASS 2500 shit off the local supplement store shelf. It must be weird to have to cut that down on top of the standard 20-30lbs most fighters have to worry about.
Whoever said GSP cut more than Alves, you are wrong, and should feel dumb for even speculating that.
Whoever said that Jon Fitch has accomplished WAY less and is more boring than Jake Shields... When was the last time Jake Shieldzzz fought GSP? Hmmmmm? Oh yeah, never.
The system we have now isn't great, but I don't think there's a better option.
Not going to happen and thank god. One of the most overblown least understood part of the game for non fighters to understand is a proper, scientific cut and recovery its a test of discipline and desire and if you are smart and got heart you can give yourself an edge. If you fuck up you get humiliated shit talked on you and get money taken away. Just as it should be
Theres no way Alves can fight at 185 hes 5-9 at best dude needs to either walk around at a lesser weight or lay off the protein a little.
I think it was Ohio. I agree that weight cutting is a bit out of control, it's just a standardized form of cheating in my eyes. People act like it is a technique, but really it's just a strategy to try to fight guys smaller than you. I feel like if they not only allow but strongly encourage weight cutting than whats the harm in PED's? If your going to let people cheat one way you might as well just let them cheat. I would like to see a level playing field where honest and honorable fighters compete with their skills to see who is truly the better man, but there are always scumbags who will do anything to get a hollow victory. It is definitely hard to have sympathy or respect for some of these guys when their strategy involves cutting down two weight classes from their natural weight.
Jon Fitch is so boring that he makes Jake Shields look as exciting as Leben.
I think I'm about to resume my original identity, I just can't be a Dick forever.
@ The Article
I say if Fitch beats Alvez and Shieldzzz beats Kampman (two big ifs- I mean we're dealing with a pitbull and a hitman here) they should slog it out for title contention. I bet it would actually not be that boring, I bet it would be one massive 15 minute positional scramble, probably see some pretty cool grappling.
It absolutely will be a guy like Johnson or Alves who can fight top competition but is obviously in the wrong weight class. I worry about Alves because he already had that brain issue, and the dehydration isn't going to help matters. Of course, I don't know shit about biology so who the fuck knows?
i'm sure there's probably still ways to abuse the system, but really we need to find a way to make these things safer for everyone involved. rehydrating isn't as simple as "hey, i'll drink ten pounds of water and now i'm good"; proper rehydration of even 2-3% of body weight takes 24-48 hrs. without proper hydration muscles get stiff; risk of concussion goes up from the brain not having any cushion.
take a guy like anderson silva, who walks around at about 220 lbs and cuts from probably 200-205. he's cutting 5-10% of his body weight through a combination of starvation and sweating. as someone above me pointed out, we very well may see a death in mma because of weight cutting; i'm betting on brain injury, but i really would hate to see it happen.
in addition to all that, it punishes guys that want to do things the proper healthy way. anyone who's a natural ww and cuts maybe a few pounds just to hit 170 either has to consider a move to lw or deal with opponents who outweigh them by 10-15 lbs.
tl,dr : weight cutting as it is now sucks. mma needs reform.
I actually find the name changing really annoying. Who the hell is that?
That said, from now on I'm doing a shot whenever a fighter says 'It is what it is.' in an interview.
If there is a weight class then people are always going to find a way to make the weight they feel they will be most successful in. How else would you regulate people being dramatically heavier than their opponents?
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