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Tidbit of the Day: Jon Jones Turned Down Fight With Lil’ Nog at UFC 114


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Kevin Iole reveals in latest Yahoo!Sports mailbag that up-and-coming UFC light heavyweight star John Jones declined a slot on the upcoming UFC 114 card as a fill-in for Forrest Griffin against Antônio Rogério Nogueira because he didn’t feel that one month was enough time to prepare for the fight. Jones explained that he hadn’t been in the gym since his win over Brandon Vera a month and a half ago at UFC LIVE: Vera vs. Jones in Broomfield, CO.


Now I’m not saying his excuses aren’t legitimate, but I don’t see a training camp being two weeks shorter than usual for a guy who walked away from his last fight still in shape and unscathed being to the detriment of a fighter of Jones’ caliber. Jason Brilz seemed pretty eager to step up to the challenge in spite of the short notice. Just sayin’.

Maybe hearing that Shogun fought and won the UFC light heavyweight title seven weeks after undergoing surgery to remove his appendix has jaded me a bit.

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Ginas_jugs- May 14, 2010 at 9:44 am
"Not saying his excuses aren't legitimate, BUT....". C'mon, then why even bring it up and pointing that out? Should have left those words for these dumbasses who comment on the article.
Nog should not be taken lightly. Anyone who criticizes Jones for not taking this, or any fight for that matter, on short notice is dumb. Why risk your whole career and everything you've trained so hard for, by jumping in to fight someone when you don't think you will be 100%?
If being smart and making educated choices and decisions that will affect the rest of your life is "pussy" then so be it.
Fucking meatheads.....
dranokills- May 13, 2010 at 7:02 am
ReX13 Says:
Thu, 05/13/2010 - 16:41

i like Mags, she seems like a funny person wearing the collar of serious work.

Cofield doesn't bother me, although god knows he gets more hate mail than MRuss.

But i rarely agree with Kevin Iole, either in analysis or opinion. Therefore, i think he's a idjit. I imagine he'd think the same of me, though, and he's the guy with a job writing on MMA, so who's the idjit now, right?

Whatever. i fart in his general direction.
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...and throw the dog poo on his shoes. aye!
Almost North- May 13, 2010 at 6:49 am
yahoo in general is a toolbox
ReX13- May 13, 2010 at 6:41 am
i like Mags, she seems like a funny person wearing the collar of serious work.

Cofield doesn't bother me, although god knows he gets more hate mail than MRuss.

But i rarely agree with Kevin Iole, either in analysis or opinion. Therefore, i think he's a idjit. I imagine he'd think the same of me, though, and he's the guy with a job writing on MMA, so who's the idjit now, right?

Whatever. i fart in his general direction.
Sawyer- May 13, 2010 at 6:20 am
Why do Yahoo insist on having such tools as their MMA writers?
fatbellyfrank- May 13, 2010 at 5:31 am
@Rex, So, if this is true,this thread has all been for nought, all these great comment's now just random gibbering, Oh how fucken cruel can life get!

Still think Jones will be a titleholder, just not this year, Let Rua have some fun and defend a few times against pretty much any of above named fighters ( get off me's programme looks pretty good) and give us all some good fights to watch
ReX13- May 13, 2010 at 5:07 am
Jones tweeted: "Just to clear the record i've never turn down a mma fight against anyone and never will.."

Since Kevin Iole is a moron, i'm going to believe Jones is telling the truth.
Sawyer- May 13, 2010 at 2:27 am
If Jones had stepped up and been beaten by Nog, people would have labelled him ignorant for thinking he could tool Nog after just a few weeks notice.

Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

This was the right decision in my mind, Nog is a destroyer and not somebody Jones should ever take lightly. Let's not forget that Nog's had the luxury of preparing for a fight up until this point so he'd be much more prepared to fight than Jones would. Jones, who had no obligation whatsoever to hit the gym after killing Vera, shouldn't be blamed for not being in prime physical condition 365 days a year. He's a young man with a family, god forbid he should actually spend time with them between fights.

dranokills- May 12, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Dante Says:
Wed, 05/12/2010 - 20:48

I bet you wouldn't say that to his face.
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I have seen this before, but I am not sure why people say this. It's like as if we as fans should be scared of these fighters. WHY wouldn't we say this to their face, or any fighters face, it is called having an opinion. IF you say it to their face and they hit you, THEY go to jail. Listen dude be an adult for a minute ok, and realize these guys are pros. Pro's are not allowed to hit people outside of sanctioned fight, if they do they lose license,go to jail, maybe lose their job. Now don't confuse saying something to a fighter and trying to "daley" them. (thats right Daley is now an inside joke for doing a dumbass thing).
Now as for Jones, I was not impressed by this kid, all hes got is to much energy and not enough sense, maybe he turned down this fight cause he realized he wasn't ready for the skills of Nog, and if all he has is unorthodox striking and some athleticism then yeah he actually did a wise thing and said no.
So would I say that to his face...fuck yes I would.
noizy- May 12, 2010 at 4:37 pm
Wise move. He's young. Doesn't need to rush and take a fight on short notice.
fatbellyfrank- May 12, 2010 at 4:33 pm
Dammed if he does and dammed if he doesn't, looks like Bone's camp know what they're doing to bring their fighter along. I'll admit I was surprised to read he hasn't been training since Vera, but there could be a million reasons for that. And I think comparing him to lashley is pretty harsh, Lashley came in with some recognition behind him from pro wrasslin and hasn't fought anyone, Jones is a rookie who's making steady progress up the MMA ladder, just my opinion
Oyabun- May 12, 2010 at 3:58 pm
@Get Off Me
I agree. And maybe I missed the hype about Jones before Bonnar but I hadn't heard of him, so I was shocked at how he tore up Bonnar and Hammill. By the time he got to Vera I expected him to beat him but he shattered his damn face. Jones is a beast. I think he would ragdoll Nog too. Of course then Nog would instantly be a can.
Almost North- May 12, 2010 at 2:18 pm
Take it easy, champ. Why don't you sit this next one out, stop talking for a while.
ccman- May 12, 2010 at 2:18 pm
I am fine with the path Get off me, but I still would not give him a title shot from those 3.
ccman- May 12, 2010 at 2:11 pm
K, vera lost to Couture, and was jones 5th ufc fight, Hamill was never a 'rising star', heck he never made gate keeper, so basically you are just going to read things as you want.... such as bringing up skin color (cuz that must be it right, what color am I?).

I criticised his work ethic as an up and comer and I criticise his lack of it as an excuse out of a fight that has a huge upside and no down side for him. I see him as a comparable to Lashley just not as vocal about it.

Everything else you said is as usual barely english and involves huge assumptions from what I said so again moving on.
Get Off Me- May 12, 2010 at 2:05 pm
@Oyabun and @ccman
The Hammill fight to me was the first test for Jones, going into that fight I had criticized(LEGITIMATELY Oyabun) that Jones had not shown what I call "Death Blow Certification" alluding to the fact that he has dominated but not be able to KO and oppenent up to that point. The Hammill fight was a cat's game to me(Hammill got thrown around and dominated but blew his shoulder out early in that one after the rock bottom from Jones). Jones however proved himself to me against Vera...I can't stand Vera and put him on my top 5 "What the F*ck are they still in the UFC for?" list, my wish was that Jones would have his first KO against Vera in spectacular fashion and he did just that.
Bottomline, Jones is worthy and on the right track to success in the UFC, let him marinate against the Janitor and a step up with Franklin or winner of Silva/Sexyama after that before you throw him in there with an absolute killer like Lil Nog.
Oyabun- May 12, 2010 at 1:53 pm
@ ccman "allowing me to explain"

I see where you're coming from now. You don't like or respect Jones and that's cool. Do you have proof that DW knew Bonnar couldn't handle Jones? Any evidence anyone knew Jones would manhandle a very strong Hammill who had never been abused like that in the past? Hammill was/is a good mid-level rising star. He's no champ but for a guy's second UFC fight to call him a can? Pretty baseless there too. And Vera who just beat Randy Couture is totally burnt out? Cmon man. He shattered Vera's FACE. You realize that was his 3rd UFC fight right? Should he have just fought Forrest in his debut? Or maybe Rampage? Yeah, you don't want him in there with any bums since he was the highest regarded rookie coming out of nowhere ever right?

Dislike him all you want but you're better off picking something real to be critical of like his skin color or height or wife or the way he looked at you through the camera than trying to make up real reasons why he did anything less than normal by not taking a fight on short notice or by not being in the gym. Every fighter doesn't take every fight offered on short notice. Every fighter isn't always in the gym.

The truth is that his record is perfect* and that's the best you can come up with to trash him. I hope he at least had sex with your mom or beat you up in 6th grade or did something to warrant your hate.
cecils_pupils- May 12, 2010 at 1:51 pm
Regardless of what anyone says about Jon Jones, War Bones is still the best band name around, just sayin.
Get Off Me- May 12, 2010 at 1:39 pm
@ccman
So Jones will fight The Janitor next....Evans/Rampage have their fight and winner goes to Rua(I think it's gonna be Evans)....Machida will most likely face Griffin next possibly....Franklin will beat Chuck....Nog will crush Brilz.....Who should Jones fight next out of those fights? I would say not any losers, so I would go with Franklin....I think Nog will fight Rampage in a re-match and take his spot as #4(1.Rua 2.Evans 3. Machida) at 205. Machida may get a rematch after the Evans fight and it will leave Jones v. Nog for the next title shot......
It's a little out there and I am leaving out Silva v. Sexyama, maybe Machida fights winnner of that fight, but this was my logic of sorts for Jones becoming a #1 contender, point is Lil' Nog will be a top contender after two more fights as I believe Jones will as well and it would be very nice to see a more experienced jones v. Lil Nog rather than throwthem at each other right away.
Oyabun- May 12, 2010 at 1:37 pm
@ccman - I never said Jones was a champ. I said unless you had those pre-reqs, YOUR opinion was worthless. You said you were basing that opinion on what guys did in Pride on 3 weeks notice. What happened in Yakuza Fest is not what we're dealing with now and I don't know how you assume that is the optimal situation for the fighters. Unless you have first hand knowledge of how he has more than enough time to prepare for Nog I'm just calling bullshit. What real facts are you drawing on to support your argument that he has enough time to be ready? Do you have some scientific data that shows that the majority of top fighters all require less than the amount of time normally given to those in the UFC and that needing more than a month heads up makes Jones a pussy?
Do you even know anything of what's going on with him to say that the reported reason for him not being ready is the actual reason?
What exactly makes my opinion better is the use of logic and facts. I'm not saying your opinion has to be wrong. I'm just saying you have no proof to back up your opinion. My opinion is just that it is stupid to hold Jones up to something that isn't even a standard. Are you always prepared to do anything on short notice? People have lives and things come up.

I read what you said- my bad on mixing up your humble part with him not taking the fight early. You took multiple shots at him over him not being in the gym that were pretty baseless. I find it kind of strange you assume he's no longer eager or humble because he took time off. There are all kinds of reasons for him to be taking time off that are far more believable than he lost his humility and enthusiasm. Why just jump on unfounded negative personal reasons? "Maybe he's too busy beating his wife and infant to get in the gym." lmao seriously
Assuming why he hasn't been in the gym says a ton about you.
stopdrinkingpee- May 12, 2010 at 1:19 pm
I think a lot of you have different definitions of "calling out" a fighter than I do. This post isn't really bashing Jones, just pointing out the facts and needling him a little bit. *yawn* No big deal, saved me reading Iole's column.
ccman- May 12, 2010 at 1:16 pm
Allowing me to explain differently;

We BASH Lashley for his 'path' thru Strikeforce mercilessly, Picking opponents and wanting cans or the champ, nothing else. I think you can draw a comparable to Jones right now. Lets be honest, who really saw Hamill having even a punchers shot? Vera?? eh, not really either, thought he might make a show of it for a few minutes at least, but never saw him really taking it. Nog is the first challenge put in front of Jones, and him not training for a long time and expecting to have a long time to prepare for his next fight is unrealistic, and arrogant. it says either he is not taking his JOB seriously enough (it is not like he has the title and is waiting for a contender to emerge). He is an up and coming contender, and anyone who buys a fighter saying they do not want to be the champ is a fool. His 'whatever they say to do' line just disappeared (yes he has said this when asked his place in the division/how long until he wants title shot). If they offered him Hamill again you think he would need 6 weeks? Bonnar? He would take it in a second. Plans?

whats the old saying. everyone has a plan until someone punches them in the face.
Almost North- May 12, 2010 at 1:12 pm


Judging by the reaction its distinctly possible that I misread everybody

@Oyabun Good post.
Oyabun- May 12, 2010 at 1:09 pm
@deadpanda - I could see that as venting possibly but this comes off more like totally unreasonable people trying to find fault with a so far blemish free fighter.
22 with young children and a wife. There's a lot on his plate. Next time he beats someone easily they'll say he needs to fight more than one guy at a time. If he took the fight and crushed Nog then Nog would be a bum. There's a pattern of stupidity and hatred that follows comments on good fighters.
ccman- May 12, 2010 at 1:06 pm
@ oyabun, When was jones a ufc champ? How does this make my opinion worthless? What exactly makes your opinion better?? Was that in english?

And I said his not training for a month and a half says a ton about him, not turning down a fight. But you read what you needed to read.... moving on.
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