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Tim Sylvia Wants Certification Class For Judges

You can add Tim Sylvia‘s name to the list of MMA fighters who were displeased with the decision in UFC 86′s Forrest Griffin-”Rampage” Jackson title fight. In a new interview with the Baltimore Sun’s MMA blog Sylvia calls for MMA judges to be certified every year in order to justify their privileged position at cageside:

MMA Stomping Grounds: If you could change anything about the sport, what would it be?

Sylvia: There’s a couple things. I would like to see knees and foot stomps allowed on the ground and I would like to see all the judges go to classes and get certified and have to re-certify every year. Just like fighters have to apply for licenses. I think judges have to take classes and know more about MMA. You can’t just have boxing refs judge doing MMA. It’s not working and fighters are getting screwed because of it.


MMA Stomping Grounds: What did you think about the decision in the Forrest Griffin-Quinton Jackson fight? Did you think Griffin won?

Sylvia: No, I didn’t. I love Forrest, he’s a great guy and they are both good friends of mine, but that’s why I was talking about judges. I really believe Forrest won round two and I believe he won five, and Quinton dominated the first round — maybe a 10-8 round — and won rounds three and four 10-9, but judges just weren’t educated enough in MMA.

Certification is an interesting concept. I’d love to see what Big Tim would come up with as a test for MMA judges to take. I’m guessing it would look something like this:

Having sex while wearing the heavyweight championship belt is:

a) pretty sweet
b) wicked awesome
c) possibly unsanitary
d) I have no idea because I’m a stupid jerk who likes Randy Couture

If the SAT’s taught me anything, it’s that these standardized tests always try to trick you by planting an answer that seems right but is really just a trap. So think hard…

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ThatsRowdy- July 10, 2008 at 3:20 pm
So according to Big John it doesn't take much to be a judge...does that mean any old asshat off the street can walk into a states athletic commission and be hired as a judge? I agree with Timmy; I think its a great idea and I hope that its something that they give a try. I mean it can't hurt right??
VEe- July 10, 2008 at 11:54 am
Simply a great idea. People can say what they want about Sylvia but the man is simply hard to beat. According to Big John McCarthy, there's little you have to do to be certified as a judge. The Athletic State Commissions needs to be exposed.
PotatoHead- July 10, 2008 at 4:14 am
I wonder if he feels that he oughta be allowed to use his "slingblade" in the cage.

Sorry guys, rough day on the loading dock.
Anonymous- July 10, 2008 at 2:25 am
Tim is right.
(punches self in nuts)
mma pro- July 10, 2008 at 1:43 am
kicks and stomps should remain banned while un banning knees to the head of a downed opponent. mma sucks in a ring, the ring favors anyone who wants to be a pussy and try to crawl between the ropes to try and get it stood up or re centered because they are un happy with thier position, although most of the time the re start the same position in the middle, the stop and start of the fight definetly affects the outcome. in the cage the only restarts you have is if the fighters are playing human blanket.
Jeffro- July 10, 2008 at 1:26 am
Wow...I think Tim may have finally broke down and got a PR person. Unfucking believable.

Oscar, Pride was good but not perfect. Some of the worst/bias calls ever were in Pride, and the judging was fucking terrible.
oscar peronella- July 9, 2008 at 11:09 pm
i never really liked sylvia but i have to agree with his stance with kicks/stomps on the ground and judge certifications. if that became standard, non japanese mma wouldn't be so pussy, perhaps even get rid of the cage aswell, favors wrestlers too much. pride fc was perfection
The Survivalist- July 9, 2008 at 10:19 pm
They need to put in concrete how to judge mma.

UFC should do that robot strikes counter that Strikeforce? uses? show you how many punch, kicks, submission attempts and executed!

We also need a legit tree of fighters so we can see who is going to fight who based on climbing up the latter not what the UFC decides!
budgetmmafan- July 9, 2008 at 10:07 pm
The certification idea is interesting, but I can't see it helping. I think most disputed decisions come from people valuing various aspects of MMA differently. Does a submission attempt count as much as a knockdown or slam?

Ex. If fighter A hits fighter B with a right hook and scores a knock-down, but fighter B locks in a triangles and almost submits fighter A in the same round, who won the round?
Black03Marauder- July 9, 2008 at 9:34 pm
I say they just ran unlimited rounds until a stoppage and just negate the reason for judges in the first place. It really would justify that PPV price if you paid for 3 days of fighting rather than 3 hours.
Danilo- July 9, 2008 at 9:23 pm
The big guy is right, I think that this fight has been one of the most talked about in a while and has created quite a buzz. I keep saying this rematch needs to happen! I know the LHW division in the UFC is the toughest and with a lot of great contenders taht deserve a shot but a fight with this kind of buzz and surrounded with a GREAT card... WOW
Iron mike- July 9, 2008 at 9:15 pm
at least he comes up with a decent idea instead of spending the time to write this incredibly hurtin post, Tim sylvia is awesome, big fucking deal if he fucked some hoe with his belt on, just cause you'll never have one doesn't mean you have to care what some guy does with his. At least he didn't try to pawn it for coke like fucking ricco, why is no one of his nuts? Fedor is prolly gonna rock him, but man I would love to see Timmah knock the shit out of him cause it'd make all you bitches worship his Mr. T special.

Good idea though, since cecil peoples would fail the test as soon as they handed it to him we'd at least have one less judge who has his head firmly encased between his ass cheeks.
Polish- July 9, 2008 at 9:02 pm
It really isn't a bad idea and I hope someone runs with it. It would help the sport out greatly.