(Video courtesy of YouTube/CagedInsider)
Most of us know that Jason Miller, who now calls Mark Munoz‘s Reign Training Center home, was once a member of Team Quest, but some may be surprised to learn that from 1999 to around 2006, “Mayhem” spent most of his time in the gym training alongside the likes of Ricco Rodriguez, Tiki Ghosen, Quinton “Rampage” Jackson and Tito Ortiz as part of Team Punishment.
(And then there was one…)
According to Ortiz, it was during those formative years in Miller’s early career that he gave him some advice that he took and ran with.
“Miller came to me when he was [a] nobody from Atlanta, when he was 18 years old. He moved out here and I got him an apartment . He was part of Team Punishment when I first begun it,” Ortiz recalled in a recent interview with Caged Insider. “I told him, ‘Listen, you can fight all you want, but at the end of the day, people go home after a fight and they talk about you, you’ve done your job as an entertainer and as a fighter.’ He kept doing it and then he had his Monkey Mayhem followers.”
Tito recalls telling Mayhem that sometimes the entertainment value of a fighter can often overshadow the skill set said fighter possesses, pointing to a boxer many feel was the greatest of all time as an example.
“At the end of the day, we’re all great fighters, but when people forget about after they fought, you didn’t do the right things as an entertainer. If you just want to be a fighter like that, then you will be forgotten, but if you want to be an entertainer then you’ll always be remembered like Muhammad Ali,” he says. “I’m not taking no credit for anything [Jason has] done, but I will take credit that I gave him the attitude to make that difference.”
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Thu, 01/19/12 - 12:03
Tito, please stop talking. You always come off as a prick.
Thu, 01/19/12 - 12:04
Holy shit that was a stacked team in that picture. By my count Josh Burkman Joe Daddy Matt Hamill Tito Rampage Josh Barnett Juanito Ibarra Kendall Grove Mayhem Solomon Hutchinson And when all those guys were at the top of their respective games.
Thu, 01/19/12 - 12:13
Is that Jay-Z in front of Rampage's albino kid?
Thu, 01/19/12 - 12:19
Translation: You may suck as a fighter, but if you act like an idiot, people will remember you.
Thu, 01/19/12 - 12:25
[...] Huntington Beach Bad Boy” Tito Ortiz as part of Team Punishment. In this video I watched at CagePotato.com, Ortiz reminisces about Miller & Jackson’s early days and how he would give them advice [...]
Thu, 01/19/12 - 12:27
Tito did so much for so many of these guys careers’. Tito taught Joe Stevenson about the birds and the bees and now he is Joe “Daddy.” One night drinking while watching classic WWF, listening to Ozzy Osbourne, and plying some classic NES Tito thought of persona for Quinton Jackson. Who do you think introduced Barnett to the roids? And as for the whole deaf thing, who do you think handed Hamill the pencils to shove in his ears? Tito defined all these careers, if you ask him at least.
Thu, 01/19/12 - 12:27
Ramapages half american/half japanese albino kid lol, I wonder how many asses he has beaten during his school tenure.
Thu, 01/19/12 - 12:42
After getting his ass handed to him by Bisping, I have lost total respect for Mayhem, his entertainment persona, does not work in the ring, he looked like shit. And I hated every minute of it, I was hoping Bisping would retire after Dan Henderson knocked him out, but no we still have to put up with his shit, and now that Mayhem got owned by him, we have to put up with his arrogant ass more, thanks Mayhem, appreciate that.....dammit..
Thu, 01/19/12 - 01:00
Betonline.com just posted odds: Cablanasian kid ..........(-375) Fat dude behind Barnet... (+260)
Thu, 01/19/12 - 01:03
I hope Miller goes back to Punishment or somewhere with altitude... cause he needs cardio. Always loved the dude, but that fight was just bad. I hope it was jitters or something.
Thu, 01/19/12 - 01:34
I wonder what each on that list of mostly wash outs would have to say if asked about Tito, and all the mentoring he takes credit for?
Thu, 01/19/12 - 01:37
Xeno: I think Tito and Segal have a secret clubhouse where they one up each other on who showed who how to be a better fighter than they ever were.
Thu, 01/19/12 - 01:56
@Paste - HUh, and maybe one day Tito will get some credit for his kicking instruction. Until today to the best of my knowledge all he has is a toy named after him. . Not didldo... . Mr. Potato Head ring a bell? .
Thu, 01/19/12 - 01:58
I dont see how he came off as a prick? What video were you watching? He simply was telling stories about old training partners and his team. - Hate him or love him Tito did a lot for this sport and Zuffa.
Thu, 01/19/12 - 08:21
So everyone's just going to ignore that Tito says Jason was exactly how he is now when he first entered his gym? Read those quotes and then skip to 4:15.
Thu, 01/19/12 - 08:42
@KarmaAteMyCat . Karma, Tito got used by Zuffa. . The he got punked when he tried to defect and do the EliteXC, Affliction, the American Fight League professional wrestling promotion and his Total Nonstop Action Wrestling (TNA). . If memory serves me right, he had to suck their ass to be able to wear his own brand of clothes. . Ortiz has played bitch for too many years, even begging to get one last fight..for his last big payday. . He is done, period.
Thu, 01/19/12 - 08:43
Viva Hate FTW.
Thu, 01/19/12 - 09:31
tito spoke coherently... for like 4 whole minutes... wow.
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Tue, 01/31/12 - 07:29
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