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UFC 104 Aftermath: Machida/Rua Rematch Coming Up, Barry Makes Out Like a Bandit, Sonnen Moves Onward and Upward


(Dana White discusses the impending Machida/Rua rematch, and UFC 104′s other fighters weigh-in on last night’s controversial decision. Also, Steve Mazzagatti shouldn’t be allowed to even *watch* MMA. Props to MMA Fanhouse.) 

- Don’t ask us how two of the three judges who presided over last night’s main event gave the first three rounds to the champion. Just take comfort in the fact that there will be an immediate rematch between Lyoto Machida and Mauricio Rua. Dana White announced the news at yesterday’s post-fight press conference, saying "They won’t make the same mistakes next time. Each one will try to win decisively." For the record, DW thought Shogun won the fight.

- Anthony Johnson was basically fined $10,000 per pound for missing weight. After tipping the scales at 176 on Friday, Rumble scored a ferocious TKO victory over Yoshiyuki Yoshida in just 39 seconds. But because he came in heavy, he was ineligible for UFC 104′s $60,000 Knockout of the Night bonus, which instead went to Pat Barry. (Barry picked up a second $60,000 award for Fight of the Night; his opponent Antoni Hardonk got a check for the same amount, while beanpole submission artist Stefan Struve was awarded the Submission of the Night bonus for his triangle choke of Chase Gormley.) Johnson was already giving up 20% of his purse. When asked about the botched weight-cut, AJ had this to say:

I had a knee injury getting ready for Matt Brown. I got heavy. I wasn’t fat, but I was 220 [pounds]. I did all I could to lose it. I think if I maybe had an extra hour or two I would have been able to lose the extra five pounds — it was coming off. It’s just my fault. I should have started preparing faster and I shouldn’t have let myself get that heavy.
 

- Joe Stevenson may have been able to pull out an impressive second-round TKO stoppage against Spencer Fisher last night, but something about the match didn’t feel right to Joe Daddy: “Oh yeah, definitely he put some like lotion on this morning or last night took a bath, something was different about him, maybe he had a lot of garlic though, that can make you slippery as well…he was just, he felt a little slippery to me, it could just be in my head and that’s why I need to improve myself.”

- And finally, peep the below video of Chael Sonnen following his victory over Yushin Okami, in which the outspoken Team Quest product criticizes Okami for his lack of promotional ability, describes his performance last night as the best of his career, and reveals that he’s only out there for a belt that’s 12 pounds and the color of gold. [Ed. note: He means the championship belt.] For his next fight, he’d like to take on Rich Franklin at 195 (because Ace has beef with his camp) or Nate Marquardt (because Henderson might not be around much longer).
 

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Krazy Kracker- October 26, 2009 at 7:36 pm
Erm, Bear, I didn't say I thought either Machida or Rua won. I just called you a douchebag for pressing your opinion on me from a sarcastic sentence I made about a shitty bout between two stylistically boring fighters. Again, I don't give a shit what some chubby keyboard warrior thinks "could've" or "should've" happened between two guys that devote their entire lives to a sport which you devote an evening to watch and then a couple of grammatically poor sentences the next day typing. Nor do I really care what you think of me in hindsight. I just wanted to let you know you're a Sunday morning corner man douchebag who writes the same cliche thing a dozen people write before you. I can tell by your asinine rabble you don't fully grasp the sport and doubt you ever will. Why don't you head on over to an NFL comments section and tell teams what they could or should do to get to the Super Bowl.
mad monk- October 26, 2009 at 11:00 am
NEVER leave it in the judges hands if you have the oppertunity to finish.
BigBear145- October 26, 2009 at 9:52 am
OK mister kracker and "the truth" im a "twat waffle"... and i didnt say shogun belonged there... but he held his own and could have won the fight. If shogun would have tore into machida the 5th round when he could have he "could" have finished him, and if he would have finished him everyone would be roaring about how good of a fight it was because shogun would have used lyto's technique against him. But shogun went the way of sitting on an idea of a lead and lost. Again i think shogun won the fight which you guys both failed to read but its what DW said you never leave it to the judge. Oh and btw... this is where people post their opinions about fights so if you dont want to read them dont... sense you guys both have an unparalleled knowledge of MMA and do not need to read other peoples opinion.
Cajun Samurai- October 26, 2009 at 9:49 am
Mazagati may not be good enough to watch a MMA match but according to my wife he gives the best mustache rides.
J-Dog- October 26, 2009 at 9:45 am
It'll be interesting to see the betting odds for the rematch. Do you think Shogun will be an underdog again? I doubt it.
Serpente- October 26, 2009 at 9:32 am
Mauricio "Shogun" Rua won that fight plain and simple.
People say oh " To be the champ, you have to beat the champ."
No only did Shogun do that, but to me it's far more imppresive that Shogun outpointed the most elusive fighter in UFC history. The guy who was unbeatable, who never lost a round got outscored by the challenger. That to me it's by far more impressive than Shogun knocking or submitting Machida out. Look at that fight with the sound off and the fightmetric clearly Shogun won 4-1, and he landed 83 clean hard shots total with aggression and control, Machida only 42 enough said.

War Mauricio Shogun Rua the best LWH in the world and the Real UFC champion.
Da Spied Her- October 26, 2009 at 8:55 am
@TheKCB: Yes, I was pissed at Joe Rogaine because he was so obviously biased for Shogun. Machida would throw a punch in Shogun's face and Shogun would return with a leg or body kick, and only the kick was mentioned. The judges scored the face punch higher.

And in one of the other fights, at 1:30 left in Round 2 Goldberg loudly declared "We are half-way through the fight". WTF? Maybe Rogaine was blowing his smoke in Goldie's face and got him high.
The Truth- October 26, 2009 at 8:10 am
Big Bear, your the type of fan I hate. You think that you know enough about MMA(you prolly dont know shit) that you can judge what a MMA fight should consist of, or what a fan should like.

Machida was offensive for a total of 3,tres,three, 1+1+1 times during the WHOLE fight. He was fighting to not lose. Shogun was much better, but still left plenty on the table. Thats why Aggression is #3 most important aspect of judging. Machida was backpedaling the WHOLE fight while Rua was chasing.

Machida is the champion and cant do better than 3 offensive attacks? If he was fighting his twin brotherit would be the worst fight ever in UFC history.

One thing about DW, he scalded Silvas ass for doing that shit and it created one of the best performances of the year.
Krazy Kracker- October 26, 2009 at 7:46 am
@BigBitch: No, douchebag. I think the whole fight was a farce to begin with. You get a guy coming off multiple surgeries who gasses on his way to a decision over a dinosaur, TKO's a concussed/telegraphing dinosaur and MMA fans are supposed to take the title fight seriously when we throw him in there with the "most elusive" champion in history. You got what was expected. Shogun trying to use Lyoto's style to beat him; inside leg kick and a 'superman that ho' evasion until the opponent gets so irritated they start wildly swinging before taking advantage of an error. However, neither effectively did step two and we witness the most boring fight in recent memory. I knew the fight was going to suck a dick but I'm Dana's favorite kind of customer; a rich 18-35 year old male who counts on at least some of the other fights being entertaining and willing to shell out the money to find out. Take yourself less seriously. Nobody gives a fuck about your opinion of the fight, but if it makes yourself feel better go ahead and throw up your cliche opinion hoping to get an e-high five, you twat waffle.
TheKCB- October 26, 2009 at 7:35 am
Was it just me or was the commentary a bit biased for Shogun by Joe Ro-gun?

Also, in the rest of the fights, it just seemed to me there were a slew of unnecessary comments by both Goldberg and Rogen that were just really annoying. I never noticed that before so I'm going to go with "they were more drunk this time."
Mike Milbury- October 26, 2009 at 7:14 am
Sonnen's kind of a dick (And delusional to boot) and I like Okami a lot, but Sonnen's 100% right with his criticism of Yushin. It's like he [Okami] and his camp don't get why he's on the undercard and keep doing the same fight over and over again. Now that Okami lost, hopefully he'll change his game a little.

Not to be racist, but since Yushin probably can't speak English too well, if at all, he has to rely on his fight performances to hype himself. What exactly did Chael want him to do to hype up the fight? Hold hands with him and do a press tour?
BigBear145- October 26, 2009 at 7:04 am
and krazy kracker is the exact type of fan i hate... what did u want them to do... swing for the fences for 25 minutes... go watch tank vs butterbean
Krazy Kracker- October 26, 2009 at 6:57 am
Wait, there was a title fight Saturday? I paid $50 and got to see a pretty heated sparring session.
BigBear145- October 26, 2009 at 6:56 am
OK first off i belive shogun won the fight, but he left it to the judges... Shogun had machida hurt in the 4th and 5th rounds from the large amount of leg and body kicks. Machida was slow and couldnt press. Shogun sat on 3 iffy rounds during the beginning of the fight and did not try to close. I know people will say "he didnt want to chance losing the fight" but any MMA, wrestler, football player, or even a cheerleader will tell you... you dont play not to lose you play to win... both fighters were fighting not to lose... Even though i felt shogun won the fight, he did not do enough to prove he was the champion.
osiris431- October 26, 2009 at 6:31 am
Fu
osiris431- October 26, 2009 at 6:29 am
Fuck Cecil, but I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt to the other judges and assume that they thought it was opposite day.
Clinch-Smash- October 26, 2009 at 4:20 am
Hi, I'm the Machida band wagon driver, will you tell me were to stop and pick up Shogun. Not that i'm going to stop likeing Machida, but he got beat, 3-2 if you give him one 4-1 honestly. Not bad but beat all the same. ( for any one who says leg kick aren't enough what about Forrest v Rampage) The worst part about he whole thing is that those judge fucks got paid good money, probably better than i get ,to fuck up like that, god i wish i could fuck up and make great money. ( What about CSAC drug testing judges!!!! ) The dumbfuck steve stopage (again) was only wrong this time because he picked a bad time to do it, it was comeing soon, just a bad time, he was standeing up.
LukeTheDuke- October 26, 2009 at 2:57 am
Chael Sonnen has FOBD. Foreign Object In Butt Disorder.
MyFightWiffaCheeto- October 26, 2009 at 1:20 am
Chael Sonnen would get KTFO by Marquardt and LOL at him even thinking he could win the MW title... He needs to shut up... either that or get embarrassed by a top 3 MW... Okami was a HUGE letdown last night.
spikeacosta- October 26, 2009 at 1:06 am
change the power rankings please! shogun best light heavyweight!
Dr.- October 26, 2009 at 12:14 am
I love how retarded journalists think that the crowd was booing Machida. Not at all. Machida is a great fighter and still the champ.

The fans, including myself, were booing the judges and their estimation of the fight.

Score 3 for the Cecil Peoples' School of Retarded Judging.
jfjjfjff- October 26, 2009 at 12:13 am
@jubbie thats fair i suppose. ill watch it again, and maybe someone will make an animated GIF of it... but the guy takes at least 6 to the face without doing anything.

@831 son, yea your stupid anonymous blog username is way better than my stupid anonymous blog username.
Jubbie- October 25, 2009 at 11:31 pm
People had a problem with the Cain/Ben stoppage because it was early. Steve could've stopped the fight in the first round but he didn't. It's not like football where the ref gives the other team a penalty to compensate for a shitty call in the previous possession. He has to be showing he can't defend himself at the time of the stoppage.

Ben was getting his ass kicked for sure but he was pushing himself up when the ref stepped in.
Koeikan- October 25, 2009 at 11:18 pm
BTW... Does this make Chuck's loss to Shogun look better in hindsight?
Koeikan- October 25, 2009 at 11:13 pm
I rewatched the fight... People may disagree, but with the sound off I had it as a draw, basically.

I thought Machida squeeked out the first and third (but close enough to where I wouldn't be that surprised if they went either way... In the third I had Shogun winning by a slight margin until Machida's flurry at the end) and I thought Shogun took the fourth and fifth by a larger margin. I thought the second round was too close to call. Overall, Shogun did more damage, but *round by round* it could have gone either way. Shogun's cardio was impressive (along with his timing, speed, kicks, gameplan), but he rarely went after Machida's head or looked to finish. Machida landed a lot of straight lefts, but paid in most exchanges (to the body) and didn't utilize his usual arsenal of sweep attemtps/leg kicks and Shogun's cardio was better in the last 2 rounds and I was surprised by his performance.

Either way, Shogun deserves an immediate rematch.
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