UFC 108 Aftermath Notes: Bonuses, Paul Daley's Future, James Toney Crashes the Party
(Photo courtesy of Sherdog.)
Though UFC 108 had a lot of great finishes and battles to choose from, the recipients of the traditional end-of-night bonuses should come as no suprise. Picking up the $50,000 bumps are:
- Knockout of the Night: Paul "Semtex" Daley, for the IED he detonated on Dustin Hazelett.
- Submission of the Night: Cole Miller, for his inverted triangle on Dan Lauzon; I know it's early, but I'm sure we'll be seeing that one on "Best of 2010" lists.
- Fight of the Night: Sam Stout and Joe Lauzon. After suffering through Lauzon's takedowns and elbows in the opening minutes, Stout put on the striking performance of his life en route to a lopsided decision.
Other notes on the evening...
— The long-delayed showdown between the victorious Rashad Evans and Quinton "B.A. Baracus" Jackson is tentatively scheduled for May.
— Dana White named Jon Fitch and Josh Koscheck as possible next opponents for Paul Daley; Semtex would also welcome a match with Thiago Alves. After the event, Daley apologized again for his victory celebration: "It's not very honorable to stand over a guy after you just knocked him out and shoot him in the head with a pretend gun. That's just not cool. Then to wind his coach up a little bit by laughing, it's not a cool thing to do but you know when you're full of adrenaline you do stupid things."
— 41-year-old Boxing champ James Toney tracked DW down to the post-event press conference and heckled him about getting a shot in the UFC. Though Toney didn't mention which fighter he'd like to take on, he still guaranteed that it would be "the biggest fight ever, period, biggest event, period, anywhere." Toney vowed that he'd show up at White's house next if they didn't work something out. White seems to actually be considering this.
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MMA42 Says:
Here's an idea: A charity fight between James Toney against Anderson Silva: Proceeds of the card go towards the charity of choice, or James Toney's hospital bills.
steampunk22 Says:
Good morning, CP.
Good fights last night.
Hungover.
AgentoftheBat Says:
I don't think showing up at Dana Whites house would go to far in swaying him to let you into his company, but I would bet a large sum of money that it would get you called a mother fucker and probably shot.
MediumRare Says:
Did anybody else think Thiago Silva threw that fight?
He had Rashad all but unconscious with about 1:30 to go in the third and proceeded to dance around like a fool.
Maybe Thiago was too gassed to finish Rashad.
Maybe his corner told him he won the first two rounds and didn't need to go for the kill (lol).
Or maybe someone paid him a lot of money (or threatened his family) to make sure he didn't win.
I sure hope I'm wrong but that looked very suspicious to me.
mustache ride Says:
Everyone there is pretty deserving of those bonuses. I'd have to say for not having any expectations for the fights last night they were pretty entertaining.
Kos and Fitch would both beat Daley most likely due to lay and pray, but his first two opponents should have taken him down as well. Also both those mother fuckers need to fight each other or quit referring to themselves as #1 contenders.
mustache ride Says:
@MediumRare
you're an idiot, I think he was just to gassed to finish him off. I just hope Rampage remembers how to stop take downs and slam a motherfucker. I hate Rashad.
CheckHisPee Says:
I think James Toney is just looking for a big payday. While we're on the subject of big things, he's got a big mouth (always has) and it looks like the rest of him is trying hard to catch up, at this rate he may not be able to make 265, lol. DW should give him the shot, maybe Toney getting his ass beat like he stole something would get a quality boxer who's IN HIS PRIME fired up enough to test the waters.
Thiago didn't throw the fight (imo), he looked pretty gassed well before he rocked Evans.
@skeletor, couldn't agree more (with your first post)
agentsmith Says:
I bet Paul Daley would welcome a fight with Thiago Alves... cause Alves would stand and strike with him, while Jon Fitch would just wrestle the fuck out of him, and Koscheck might strike or might wrestle or both. Alves is surely his safest opponent among the top guys.
TrouserSnout Says:
Kimbo vs Toney....
SILENTKILL Says:
I dont think Thiago threw the fight i just think he was gassed out and trying to buy some time for another attack. I would almost bet my life that if Tony does fight in the UFC it will be a one fight deal and he would fight Kimbo Slice, that way if he actually wins it wont be on the scale of Tim sylvia losing to Mercer due to Kimbo being new to the MMA scene. It would still be a marketable event as well.
denver_rolling Says:
@MediumRare
I think he was just gassed. It was no Kimbo/Houston fight for christs sake.
Organ Donor Says:
You 'tards have been missing all of the important points about last night's card. Honestly I don't know what you were even watching.
Despite all of the moaning about the evening's supposed shortcomings leading up the event, I thought Chandella delivered some solid carrying of the sign around the ring. Clearly she's still green. Her kisses were flicked like a junior high-schooler rather than slowly blown with perfectly puckered lips like Arianny "Alpha Cat" Celeste's. Likewise, her camera waving seemed a bit rushed. But Octagon jitters are to be expected in one's first appearance in the show. Credit should be given to her make-up team, because the skin tone on her face perfectly matched that of her body's - which was a major concern leading up to the event. And she did a good job at keeping her distance from "Alpha Cat" so as not to upstage her, yet clearly wasn't intimidated either. Meanwhile, the way her ass hung below her high-cut shorts was quite promising.
It was a strong first showing by the new girl. She didn't win knockout of the night, but once she gets over the jitters and slows the pace a little bit I expect her to turn in some strong performances. Barring any sex scandal or Ben Fowlkes interviews, she might even make it to the end of her contract.
All in all, despite the doom and gloom leading up to Chandella's debut, her performance delivered far and above the miserable expectations for this card carrier.
mustache ride Says:
^^^^agreed
SiDeBuRnZ Says:
Organ Donor for comment of the week
Smitty Says:
Yeah, but did you see Arianny (or how ever you spell it) look all pissed off at one point when "the new chick" walked by her to her seat. Bitches are so freakin catty!
Organ Donor Says:
@ Smitty: that just shows how difficult a job "Condi" had, what a fine and nuanced line she had to walk. She deserves props for not even trying for the upset with some flashy maneuver like trying to share Arianny's blanket, even though she was probably quite cold and might have even had some goosebumps. Like Rashad, she came in with a conservative and calculated game plan, and she stuck to it.
mustache ride Says:
Another thing I learned last night is Daley and Dos Santos are for real! I haven't heard Rogan say that since Houston Alexander.
MostDiabolicalH... Says:
I also heard him say WOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
D Piddy Says:
Yeah, for what the new octagon girl lacks in the facial department she made up for in the sexy walk/shake department.
ghostboner Says:
Yeah for all the dirt I fling at the new ring girl she did ok. It just freaks me out when I think I'm watching a fighter walk out and then I see that he is carrying a big cardboard octagon and wearing a bikini top. I'm sure I'll get over it though.
Don't think thiago threw it. He def should have won, but I think he was just wary of a little rope a dope from Rashad. Stupid move though with 2 min left in the 3rd and you're down 2 rounds.
It looked to me like lauzon tapped more from the arm bar attempt that was happening and less from the triangle. Anyone else have a perspective on that? What I mean is, a more sober perspective? 1 replay was not quite enough for me last night.
budsellers Says:
i wanted to see rashad go full stinky leg, but i suppose this was better so rampage will get the chance to knock him out. had rashad gone out to the middle of the cage, silva would have had enough time(and power in the first round) to knock him out. i guess someone(yoda) convinced rashad to be smart and turn into randy couture for the night. boring!!
before daley gets a shot at the belt, he should fight at least 2 more times because he needs to beat at least 1 legit contender and his second fight should be against dan hardy(after gsp makes hardy look like a fool). EDIT: I DID NOT KNOW THEY ARE CAMPMATES. I DO NOT CARE IF THEY ARE CAMPMATES.
no single fight was excellent, or deserving of $50-60 ppv main event status, but i suppose the card was way too good for spike. would have been a great network tv card, but that reminds me... should gunsamerica.com be added to the banned sponsors too?
i agree with ghostboner. that lady is funny looking. she is more masculine than edith! whoever hired her to replace the other 2 hot chicks, should be fired.
Half Amazing Says:
Paul Daley and Dan Hardy are in the same camp.
mustache ride Says:
Is that a comment or a question?
If it is in fact a comment then let me just say thank you captain fucking obvious.
If it's a question then yes, yes they are.
Organ Donor Says:
^^^The absence of a question mark at the end of Half Amazing technically sound sentence leads me to believe it was not a question. I'll go on a limb and suggest it may have been a response to budellers' suggestion, directly above Half Amazing's statement, that Daley fight Hardy after Hardy recovers from getting pummeled by GSP.
baldmidget Says:
Paul Daley - KO of the night after missing weight.
Anthony Johnson - Sorry rumble I would have give you the KO of th enight but you're not eligible, since you missed weight.
How taste another British peepee.
mma samurai Says:
Damn Rashad!!!! He's like herpes just when you think he's gone he comes back and iritates you! I agree the only consolation is getting to see Rampage destroy him in May (providing he doesn't waste more time making movies). As far as Daley deserving a title shot, I'll say he deserves it when he learns how to be a professional and make weight. I know personally how hard cutting weight is but he's in the biggest MMA organization in the world right now. Let him show he can make weight and continue to perform well then yeah I'd give the guy my endorsement for a title shot. Till then put down the fish and chips bro
budsellers Says:
i did not know that hardy and daley are in the same camp, but don't try to convince me that daley would not fight hardy for the belt... why not fight for the cash after hardy becomes irrelevant to the division? makes sense to me.
a year ago jardine and rashad said they would never fight eachother, but i think jardine would reconsider a fight with rashad (and the payday) now. rashad has no reason to fight jardine, unless jardine asks him for it.
Organ Donor Says:
I've spoken to both Rashad and Keith about it here in Albuquerque and it's really not going to happen. Daley has said recently in an interview I saw that he would fight Hardy, but only for the title.
mustache ride Says:
who cares about Rash and Jardine? Jardine sucks and really shouldn't even be in the UFC anymore. But Daley Hardy would be an interesting scrap, but it will never be for the title.
mustache ride Says:
the only reason Jackson keeps Jardine around anyways is as a face punching scout for his golden boy Rashad.
budsellers Says:
now we are really offtopic, but let's see what happens with rashad and keith when the only big name fighters who will fight either of them is chuck, tito or randy(whichever loses next).
ghostboner Says:
@baldmidget - good point! What the F Dana? Keep it consistent at least! I thought missing weight was a violation of the fight contract and therefore renders the combatant ineligible for bonus cash? Either cancel the check to Semtex or cough one up for Rumble!
mustache ride Says:
I wouldn't mind seeing Rumble fight Semtex that would be exciting and leave room for Kos to fight Fitch.
DangadaDang Says:
@baldmidget
Anthony Johnson refused to cut any more weight after missing it, where Paul Daley was told by doctors not to cut any more weight. Also, Johnson had missed weight before i believe.
Organ Donor Says:
Let's don't forget Jardine fought a close fight with Rampage that may have been decided by a 3rd period knockdown. Thiago Silva only needed 72 seconds to put away Jardine. In terms of MMAth, that makes Silva look much tougher than Rampage. Factor in the fact that Jardine had three rounds to scout Rashad's future opponent in the case of Rampage, and only 72 seconds to scout Silva, and all you Rashad haters might well be queefing sand big time in May.
mustache ride Says:
MMA math never works, Wanderlei all but raped Jardine in the ass in under a minute and Page did the same to him. Jardine also worked over Forrest pretty good he later beat Rampage, who then beat Jardine. By this logic Kimbo should be the next LHW champion since he just beat Houston who also raped jardine.
Point of this rant, fuck Jardine and Rashad! And while were at it Van Arsdale since he's on Rashad's nuts so hard these days.
Organ Donor Says:
Everyone Jardine has scouted, Rashad has scalped.
Get Off Me Says:
Jardine is the scaraficial lamb, Gregg Jackson's canary if you will.
I can't wait to see what they give my boy Dos Santos next, any thoughts? I would love to see winner of Carwin v. Mir.
Getting stronger......
ghostboner Says:
Why is everyone so obsessed with Kos Fitch and Swick fighting each other? They train at the same gym. How the hell are you gonna train to fight a guy at the same gym as you with the same trainers and coaches? It would be a colossal pain and I tend to agree that it should only have to happen if a title is on the line. I think Kos and Fitch would be a boring fight anyway. I still want to see Condit fight Daley. I think Condit could be trouble for mr. can't make weight but still get my bonus.
@Dangadadang - Johnson did miss weight twice, and the second time was by more than 5 lbs, but I am pretty sure it was doc's orders that he stop.
ghostboner Says:
I hope to see Dos santos vs Velasquez. Dos Santos is looking pretty good.
phaderlanx Says:
Forrest, Chuck, Thiago and .... this does not bode well for rampage.
mma samurai Says:
It seems like Jardine has become the new Elvis Sinosec (probably mispelled that). He's the gate keeper for anyone who should even be considered a top contender at 205. The problem is beating Jardine these days isn't saying much. Yeah he's got heart and he's mean and nasty and comes out of Jackson's camp and blah blah blah but how many times have we seen him with that sad puppy dog where the hell am I look? Jardine might want to talk to Scott Coker pretty soon since he seems content to secure fighters the UFC can't sign or doesn't want anymore.
mustache ride Says:
Yeah I wouldn't mind seeing Jardine in Strikeforce. I'd love to see Mousasi or King Mo knock him the fuck out.
ghostboner Says:
Skeletor why do you hate Keith so very much?
Organ Donor Says:
If I were to guess, I'd say Skeletor hates Keith by way of his association to Rashad.
baldmidget Says:
got a link to him refusing to cut more weight?
Your reasoning is ridiculous.
They both missed weight, one was handsomely rewarded for it, and one was not.
whitey Says:
i called stout/lauzon as fotn.
@cp organ donor should get one of those tshirts that you guys don't send!
Organ Donor Says:
What whitey says!
whitey Says:
dammit bens
Turd Furgeson Says:
Maybe skeletor is chuck liddell.