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UFC 108 Aftermath Notes: Bonuses, Paul Daley’s Future, James Toney Crashes the Party

(Photo courtesy of Sherdog.)

Though UFC 108 had a lot of great finishes and battles to choose from, the recipients of the traditional end-of-night bonuses should come as no suprise. Picking up the $50,000 bumps are:

Knockout of the Night: Paul "Semtex" Daley, for the IED he detonated on Dustin Hazelett.

Submission of the Night: Cole Miller, for his inverted triangle on Dan Lauzon; I know it’s early, but I’m sure we’ll be seeing that one on "Best of 2010" lists.

Fight of the Night: Sam Stout and Joe Lauzon. After suffering through Lauzon’s takedowns and elbows in the opening minutes, Stout put on the striking performance of his life en route to a lopsided decision.

Other notes on the evening…

— The long-delayed showdown between the victorious Rashad Evans and Quinton "B.A. Baracus" Jackson is tentatively scheduled for May.

— Dana White named Jon Fitch and Josh Koscheck as possible next opponents for Paul Daley; Semtex would also welcome a match with Thiago Alves. After the event, Daley apologized again for his victory celebration: "It’s not very honorable to stand over a guy after you just knocked him out and shoot him in the head with a pretend gun. That’s just not cool. Then to wind his coach up a little bit by laughing, it’s not a cool thing to do but you know when you’re full of adrenaline you do stupid things."

— 41-year-old Boxing champ James Toney tracked DW down to the post-event press conference and heckled him about getting a shot in the UFC. Though Toney didn’t mention which fighter he’d like to take on, he still guaranteed that it would be "the biggest fight ever, period, biggest event, period, anywhere." Toney vowed that he’d show up at White’s house next if they didn’t work something out. White seems to actually be considering this.

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ghostboner- January 5, 2010 at 3:28 pm
Ha ha. Ah, that is totally something Mcsweeny would say.
Organ Donor- January 5, 2010 at 10:30 am
Actually, I'm really Rashad Evans
ghostboner- January 5, 2010 at 2:03 am
@ytrebil - Ok dude the fight isn't set at an exact weight, but the maximum weight sure as hell is exact. We can agree that missing weight is bad, correct? Then should it not also follow that there should be a penalty for this? And should it not follow that the other fighter should be rewarded? I think so. Your charity suggestion is admirable, but I think most of the time giving it to the other fighter is charity. You are right it does not look good for one guy to drop the fight because the other guy came in 1lb over, and Dana surely would have his ass if he did.

@James "Organ Donor" Mcsweeny - If you are at jackson's then give that gremlin a hearty nip tweak for me next time you are double dating with him. I love the guy.
Organ Donor- January 4, 2010 at 3:23 pm
i think i need to get a life
budsellers- January 4, 2010 at 11:02 am
i do not hate rashad, but rashad does not behave like a champ so i have no love him either. he never showed rampage the respect he deserved as the former champ; instead he acts like rampage ain't shit! i personally think this is all because rashad is scared of rampage.

in fact, i do think rashad showed hmself to be good people when dealing with his team and most of the time he was even good people with rampage's team. it was his punk bitch act that i was thoroughly unimpressed with.

there were several times on TUF that rashad just could not help being a punk bitch. rampage wants to fight rashad, but he would never have actually thrown the first punch on the show. clearly rampage likes playing with his opponents minds and talking shit. however, instead of playing along with the shit talking to help make some good tv, rashad decided that alternately acting hard like he was ready to throw down, eventually followed by walking away with nothing to else say was better tv.

i also do not give a shit about rampage either, but everyone knows he defended his belt and that is enough to earn my respect for him as a champ! rashad putting on a punk bitch act at least once every other show, lost my respect for him. yes, i want rashad to get his ass kicked and yes, i would love to see rampage do this, but this is just what i think rashad deserves, nothing more. if he beats rampage, which is something i do not think he is capable of doing, i will shut up about rashad.
Organ Donor- January 4, 2010 at 10:37 am
@Get Off Me: Tito is a special case (as in special olympics) in that he hasn't really done anything likeable that I've noticed, so I would think you should be all-clear to keep strongly disliking. But if Tito turns into an alter boy and starts giving head to priests, why not give him a second chance?
Get Off Me- January 4, 2010 at 9:39 am
@Organ Donor
I get your point about Rashad haters......What if I "strongly dislike" Tito, am I still covered if he keeps losing and looking like a jackarse in the process?
Organ Donor- January 4, 2010 at 8:29 am
I see that it's already been duly noted, but I also want to applaud exes.for.iballs for his astute observation vis a vis Chuck "the skeletor" Liddell. But as "skeletor" is so well-spoken I can only assume that he has an assistant, not Tito, helping with his posts.

So that at least explains why "skeletor" doesn't like Keith and Rashad. But the persistent hatred for them both is quite interesting. I think some of the anti-Keith venom can be explained, as I've commented earlier, via his association with Rashad, who is truly the hated one. While both train at Jackson's, that's obviously not the source of the ire, as many popular fighters train there too - including myself, on rare occasion, although I'm not popular and I quite suck. I did double-date with my girl, Keith, and his (hot) girlfriend - a promising fighter who also trains at Jacksons - and both she and Keith are very nice.

That said, I have to say I was a bit put off by Keith's nipple tweak before his fight with Silva, and it obviously didn't serve him well. Rashad is well-known for his finger-licking double nipple tweak, which seems like a more effective technique in the cage, but may not have earned him fans.

Could it be that the nipple tweaking is causing all of the hate? Perhaps the haters were not breast-fed enough as children.

The Rashad hate is especially interesting because the more the haters dig in to their position it seems to only further piss them off when Rashad actually looks like a nice guy. Fury was inspired in the hearts of the true haters when Rashad out-classed Rampage on TUF. And against Thiago, Rashad not only ceased his arguably obnoxious showboating while his opponent picked up the slack in spades, while the haters, predictably, doubled down on their hatred, and began dealing with their frustration by looking forward to Rashad getting smashed by Rampage.

Where does it end? What can Rashad do to redeem himself? Probably nothing. But don't hate the haters, pity them. Because it really must be frustrating when the one they hate behaves in such a way that leaves them babbling like Chuck and Tito trying to read Shakespeare out loud while drunk.

Perhaps the haters weren't potty-trained as kids, so the shit that's inside of them keeps spilling out of their mouths.
ytrebil- January 4, 2010 at 6:07 am
Rashad comes across as a great guy IMO. I don't know where the Rashad hate comes from.
skeletor- January 4, 2010 at 5:26 am
No I'm not Chuck Liddell sorry, I can't drink that much. I just hate Jardine because he looks like the six flags dancing guy. And being friends with Rashad doesn't help.
ytrebil- January 4, 2010 at 3:33 am
It’s not an exact weight if you want to be pedantic… as I’ve said, no fighter should be overweight for a fight. I don’t think there’s any excuse to be honest with you. I think the charity option is a good call (I’m not modest…) and easily feasible. Yes, the fighter can walk away from the fight because of the contract violation on the other fighter’s behalf, but are you trying to say that without the 10% going into his pocket he wouldn’t take the fight? I don’t think so! Firstly it wouldn’t be in the ‘spirit’ of being a fighter and secondly, the UFC wouldn’t look upon it in a good light and could and probably would affect the fighter’s career with the UFC.

It would be a good move for the UFC supporting a charity with the rudimentary Goldberg ‘promotions’ a la…”Haaaarleeeeey Davidson…the only motorcycle worthy of being in the UFC Octagon”.
ghostboner- January 4, 2010 at 3:05 am
@ytrebil - It makes perfect sense. If you are contracted to fight at an exact weight, you make the weight or you are in violation of the contract, and you can lose your entire fight purse. If one fighter does not make weight then the he has violated the fight contract and the fight is off. The other fighter can walk away and not be in violation of his contract, but has the option to agree to fight under new terms. Since he fulfilled his obligation thus far he gets to make the new terms.
ghostboner- January 4, 2010 at 2:55 am
I think the Iceman, aka skeletor, should get the CP tee. He knows his mmath.

P.S. Skeletor - please slaughter Tito on TUF!
ytrebil- January 4, 2010 at 2:51 am
Congrats for making weight, here’s 10% of your opponents purse? I don’t think that makes much sense to be honest although I do believe that is usually how it goes. I know fighters are ‘underpaid’ but I think it would be good image for the UFC and the sport if the 10% went to charity. Maybe the opponent can choose the charity or just an affiliate charity of the UFC.
ghostboner- January 4, 2010 at 2:48 am
@ytrebil - WTF 10% to charity, no it should go to the fighter who made weight, as I believe it does.

@exes.for.iballs - ha ha ha skeletor is chuck liddell! Dude skeletor, aka chuck, no worries mate everyone had your game figured out long before Keith beat you! Got predictable, got beat. It happens. Don't hate Keith.
ytrebil- January 4, 2010 at 2:13 am
Considering the amount of pullouts and doom and gloom over this card it turned out pretty good in comparison to the cards of the year just gone!!! We had good KO’s, decent ‘end to end’ fights and a couple of great submissions.

With regards to Daley, he does still look very 1-dimensional and even the couple of leg kicks he dropped looked very unnatural and uncomfortable for him to throw, but my god his power is pretty impressive and accurately used. He throws and knows how and where to connect. Anyone who stands in front of him is in trouble, but I can’t see him even being top 5 in the welter division as smarter fighters should ‘easily’ beat him. Also, poor form to not make weight. I don’t think there is an excuse to not make weight.

Where does the 10% of a fighter’s purse go when he doesn’t make weight? The UFC should give it to a plausible charity.

P.S. Hardy will beat GSP via KO. Mark my words. Hardy has nothing to lose but everything to gain fighting GSP and he won’t be intimidated by him! He’ll go out throwing for the fences and catch him on the chin. GSP goes down like a sack of spuds! :)
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Sunburned- January 3, 2010 at 10:46 pm
Speaking of arms..

One was broken recently, and mocked publicly..
Very entertaining show.

Hint: It was during an MMA event that was broadcast to 80+ countries.

Sorry, was thinking globally again.
frndlylion- January 3, 2010 at 10:41 pm
This was an awesome card considering all the issues preceding it. There were some very excting fights or at least all but the headliner anyway.

I thought Stout was done for when he had his arm all locked up like that but, he proved how tough he is. Totally deserving of FOTN.

Thiago deserved to lose that fight! He had Rashad rocked and spent almost a full minute showboating and acting all big and bad when the energy he spent doing all that crap could have been used to finish the fight. I lost a LOT of respect for him as a fighter for that bullshit. I hope he gets his face kicked in next time he tries that crap in the ring.
Sunburned- January 3, 2010 at 10:28 pm
Skeletor knows his shit.

I see Dana was a little put off by the ppv numbers, It's clear when you see him mention it.

Unfortunately, the MMA fans have been glued to Dream, K-1, etc. recently.

Elders and purists know why.

exes.for.iballs- January 3, 2010 at 9:02 pm
Maybe skeletor is chuck liddell.
whitey- January 3, 2010 at 8:51 pm
dammit bens
Organ Donor- January 3, 2010 at 8:38 pm
What whitey says!
whitey- January 3, 2010 at 8:17 pm
i called stout/lauzon as fotn.

@cp organ donor should get one of those tshirts that you guys don't send!
baldmidget- January 3, 2010 at 7:31 pm
got a link to him refusing to cut more weight?

Your reasoning is ridiculous.

They both missed weight, one was handsomely rewarded for it, and one was not.