So how come Anthony Johnson isn't able to get a KOTN bonus because he missed weight but Paul Daley can miss weight and still get it? WTF!

since i have been getting more and more upset about disclosed fighter pay, i wanted to see what it would look like if a fan like myself was allowed to decide how much these fighters were paid on saturday night.

(yes, i know nobody that matters really cares what i think, but i wanted to share this post anyway.)

in this particular example, almost every fighter receives a raise based in my own humble assesment on tenure AND record. not everyone received a raise, but the 2 main event fighters did. rashad received a 25% raise instead of a win bonus and thiago also received a handsome raise. feel free to check my math, but this model, for this particular card would cost the ufc only $2k more than the payout they used on saturday night.

Rashad Evans: $250,000
def. Thiago Silva: $80,000

Paul Daley: $80,000 (includes $50,000 Knockout of the Night bonus)
def. Dustin Hazelett: $35,000

Sam Stout: $80,000 (includes $50,000 Fight of the Night bonus)
def. Joe Lauzon: $85,000 (includes $50,000 Fight of the Night bonus)

Jim Miller: $30,000
def. Duane "Bang" Ludwig: $25,000

Junior Dos Santos: $30,000
def. Gilbert Yvel: $30,000

Martin Kampmann: $50,000
def. Jacob Volkmann: $25,000

Cole Miller: $85,000 (includes $50,000 Submission of the Night bonus)
def. Dan Lauzon: $25,000

Mark Munoz: $30,000
def. Ryan Jensen: $25,000

Jake Ellenberger: $25,000
def. Mike Pyle: $25,000

Rafaello Oliveira: $25,000
def. John Gunderson: $25,000

(yes, it seems cruel to take money away from munoz, dos santos or daley, even when it is a fantasy examination, but this is not for realsies so get over it.)

if there had been more ufc vets on the card, the payout would have been much higher, but the ppv buys would also have been much higher.

if the ufc chooses to share more of their revenue based on performance or whatever reasons they deem proper for those undisclosed payments, that is fair too, but i am sure almost all of us fans would feel much better about the promoter, the fighters, the sport and the brand with a disclosed payout that looked more like this.

@ Steampunk
BINGO!
@Mediumrare
U know what I mean, it concerns me because I think this sport could become bigger than boxing, but the athletes need time to train and training(as my italian friend would say) "costs expensive". Gunderson and Jensen may be back to work as you read this message, those gym dues need to be paid.

Rashad got paid what he got paid because he hasn't fought in over half a year, and got heavily screwed by Rampage. Its a straight up apology paycheck, which is fine. But it is what is is.

when i said ufc should do away with win bonuses, i was speaking about win bonuses not fighter pay... especially 6 figure win bonuses for putting on a boring wrestling clinic. that performance was asstastic; reminded me of the slumbernator, matt hughes.

the amounts fighters are paid should always be based on value to the company and if dana is going to guaranty 2 or 3 "oh shit!" moments per ppv event, as he said to either fanhouse or sherdog over the weekend, those fighters on the undercard should definitely be valued at more than $25-40k each. if we paid $20-30 for each "oh shit!" moment, then none were thanks for rashad and 1 was definitely thanks to thiago.

also, i love the fight of the night, submisson and knockout win bonuses, but those should be worth more money too. perhaps there should be a promised bonus for finishing ANY ufc fighter.

last season remember when DW bought hendo and bisping land rovers or some other expensive waste of money car... and it broke down before hendo even got to temecula (which is close as fuck to vegas) maybe he gave rashad his pay bump for coaching TUF.. but idk why he would get that kinda win bonus.. maybe it was set up before silva stepped in.

Yeah there's nothing fun about working construction (or some other shit job) and training MMA part time to finally get a shot in the big show, get beaten and take home $5000.

Wouldn't be surprised to learn that John Gunderson is going back to school to become a network adminstrator.

@mediumrare

I understand your point about bitching, I'm not a bitchy type and hardly emotionally invested into what Dana pays fighters or makes or spends per show. It's hard to come across on a keyboard sometimes, but my impression after I saw some of the salaries was like "sweatshop dollars" for some of these guys so I was merely underlining the fact that zuffa is pulling in the dough, not bitching about it. The $5000.00 is a joke period, not bitching, it's a joke that's all, imagine getting a cheque for that much after a fight and you just fought in the biggest show around, i'd laugh not bitch.

I'm a big fan of medium rare too if that counts for anything.

@ Get Off Me

I don't have any clue what it costs to put on a UFC event. That's why I don't bitch about what they pay virtual unknown fighters.

Fighters are big boys. They know what they're getting into. They agree to make shit money in the hopes of making it big. When they make it big everyone wants to watch them and they make a ton of money in purses and endorsements.

I have no doubt Zuffa is raking in the cash. In my book they deserve it. They bought a dying business and put their asses in hock to do so. They market it well and I love watching what they put on.

Can never understand why people bitch and moan all the time about the people that put on the shows we enjoy so much.

Bitch about politicians. Bitch about bankers. Bitch about lawyers.

But don't bitch about Zuffa, Dana White and the UFC. They practically built this sport as we know it.

Someone tell Dana that i did not buy that ufc to see rashad fight.... he shouldn't even be paid half that.

@ MediumRare
Oh I thought that was it?? I think they sold more than 7000 ppv's and got more than 1500 people inside the event, but i could be wrong.
I know the price to pay to run an event is tremedous, like the 55 you pay for a card definately gets chopped up, how much, we don't know. I know the venue must take half the gate too. There's still money out there to pay these fighters more, especially if you want fighters to be able to train to fight and not have to work all day and then go to training. How much does the UFC charge sponsors, is it $100,000 per ppv, how much is bud light paying, Harley davidson......

What would you estimate "overhead" for putting UFC 108 on cost? Any ideas?
$5000.00 payout is a joke.

Damn, Munoz really showed me something in his fight. Looks like Black House really improved all aspects of his game, including striking. Seriously, if he fought Matt Hamill again, he would hand his ass to him. I think he should have got more money than he did. But I was really impressed.

Man fkn Sausage Tits Rashad got overpaid like a mofo. He should have been paid $100k less.

@budsellers

how do you figure?

Sure, fighters do this because they love it and know it's not a particularly lucrative profession, but, hypothetically, here's a scenario: you're low man on the totem pole, young, inexperienced, fighting on the undercard for a couple of grand to show? That win bonus is huge for you and an even bigger motivator to put on a show.

Just trying to understand your logic is all.

@ Get Off Me

So they don't have any other overhead running a UFC event other than fighter pay?

@ shitbag

Zimmer would make nothing 'cause he's your imaginary friend

Let's C....
first 7000 ppv buys covers Rashads pay day, first 1 500 seats sold(on average $500.00 price per seat) covers the rest of the rosters pay.......Does Dana run any industrial factories in China as well? Where's the money going? Oh yeah ZUFFA.

Zimmer would make......

your mom squeal with delight.

@Shitbag
Sorry about that, but it will probably put to shame anything they pay to get Fedor.

ufc needs to stop paying win bonuses... fans will see better fights and that is reason enough.

Ok, none of you have answered my question

@skeletor --> "It is weird that Dan makes more to show then Joe."


I assume it is just a matter of when they hashed out their respective contracts.

SSDD

Gilbert (the Yellow Card) Yvel has a decent fan-following in Japan & Europe, in fact despite what anyone says I think we all secretly wanta see him KO another Ref.

Anyone second Steve Mazzagatti ref'ing his next fight??

second that

Dos Santos is lucky to be getting paid what he is. They brought him in to lose to Werdum (Not sure what he got paid for that) so he probably only had a one fight contract. Meaning that when he knocked him out he had some what of a bargaining chip when it came time to renegotiate. It certainly is a better route to the money then TUF, as made apparent by Lauzon's payday. Those guys get hosed for quite some time.

@ skeletor:
Exactly what I'm thinking. Dan Lauzon gets $15K to show in his UFC re-debut, while established UFC guys like his brother and Cole Miller are only getting $12K? Honestly, he's as low-profile as either Gunderson or Jensen, but making literally three times as much. That definitely qualifies as overpaid.

@skeletor

I mildly follow nonUFC mma, and I see where you're coming from, all I am saying is that I feel Dos Santos, who is flying up the heavyweight ranks, should be paid more than someone making their UFC debut.

@ Maine Blazer
How is that unfair? Yvel has had many more high profile fights then Dos Santos. I know you probably only follow UFC but Yvel is pretty good.

It is weird that Dan makes more to show then Joe.

Dos Santos makes the same to show as Yvel? Underpaid

How much would Zimmer make in the UFC?