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UFC 123 Live Results and Commentary (Murder City Edition)

(“So then I said, ‘Hey Tim, Dana told me if you beat Rizzo he might let you back in the UFC.’ Man, you should’ve seen his face. I think the poor fucker believed me.” PicProps: CombatLifestyle)

I went to Detroit once. During the summer of 1998 my band played at a bar called the Old Miami in the city’s Cass Corridor neighborhood. It was the kind of place where Vietnam veterans hung their actual purple hearts on the wall and tacked up fading snapshots of fallen fellow soldiers with the letters “KIA” scrawled above their heads in ballpoint pen. I kept expecting Dennis Hopper to wander in and say something like, “This is a heavy scene, man.” In fact, the whole town was like a living embodiment of every Bruce Springsteen song ever written. It was kind of cool, in an anthropological sort of way. Needless to say, the middle-aged ex-grunts who hung out at that bar didn’t seem to appreciate our particular brand of balls-to-the-wall, angsty hardcore music. Weird, I know.

I imagine not much has changed. In a lot of ways, war-torn old Detroit is the perfect setting  for Quinton “Rampage” Jackson to stage a comeback fight. Both are getting on in years and still carry an aura of unpredictable violence despite the fact that their best days are probably behind them. I don’t even know what city Machida is like. Where do they drink the most piss? Santa Barbara? Probably Santa Barbara. Anyway,  we’ll be going live at 10 p.m. Eastern. As always, be sure to hit refresh early and often to keep up with the latest happenings.

Mike Goldberg and Joe Rogan are cageside in Auburn Hills, both of them dressed in black like the groomsmen in some aging rock n’ roller’s second wedding. I think we’re all still a little bit in shock from watching Dennis Hallman TKO Karo Parisyan in the first round on the undercard. So, Hallman goes on TV and says 50 percent of fighters are on steroids and then he comes out and looks like a whole new man in two straight UFC wins, huh? Pretty weird. Joe and Goldy are both duly pumped for tonight’s action. Joe says Rampage is in phenomenal condition and Goldberg notes that “he is angry.” Rogan calls Hughes vs. Penn “the most important rivalry in the history of MMA.” Wow. Sorry Randy and Chuck. Or Fedor and CroCop. Or Fedor and Nogueira. So with the dubious introductory claims in the books, we’re ready to get rolling. 

Joe Lauzon vs. George Sotiropoulos

Round 1
George comes out showing a lot of head movement and both guys swing punches early. Lauzon lands a couple of rights. George grabs a single, but Lauzon shucks him off.  Lauzon is getting the better of the striking. With 3:15 on the clock, George grabs a double and pushes Lauzon against the fence. Gets a couple of elbows in his ear for his trouble. At the halfway point, they move back to center. George lands a right hand. George pulls guard with two minutes left, which leads to a fast-paced scramble that ends with Lauzon on top. Lauzon stands and George wrestles him down again with 50 seconds on the clock. George tries to GnP and flirts with an arm bar that allows Lauzon to get back on top, landing strikes at the horn.

Round 2
George looks a little bit more aggressive with his strikes in the early going of the second. Rogan notes that Lauzon has slowed a bit. George tries a single that he can’t get, but Lauzon doesn’t have much to offer here early. G-Sot gets him down with 3:15 left. George moves immediately to north-south and goes for the kimura. He switches back and forth with an arm bar before eventually settling on the kimura on the opposite arm. Lauzon taps.

George Sotiropoulos def. Joe Lauzon via submission (kimura).

The broadcast shows scenes of Rampage showing up at the arena with Mike Dolce and Lance Gibson in tow. Jackson’s wearing a jacket with a hoodie underneath. Machida looks like a junior varsity football coach during his arrival, wearing a warm-up suit and ballcap. A promo for Koscheck vs. St. Pierre features “Run this Town” by Jay-Z. Phil Davis vs. Tim Boetsch is next.

Tim Boetsch vs. Phil Davis

Round 1
The first 30 seconds is a bit of a feeling-out process, though both guys try high kicks. Boetsch lands an inside leg kick. Davis comes back with a 1-2 and a kick. Boetsch catches a kick and lands a punch behind the ear with just over three minutes left. Davis pushes Boetsch off the fence and gets a trip takedown with 2:30 left and immediately thinks about an arm triangle, though he can’t get it. Some shots to the body from Davis in Boetsch’s half guard. Grinding that elbow across the face. Boetsch replaces his guard with 45 seconds left but it makes no difference. With 20 seconds on the clock, Boetsch pops up but Davis clinches him against the fence until the bell. 10-9 Davis.

Round 2
Davis tosses out that high kick again and goes right back into the clinch against the chain link inside the first minute. Detroit thinks that’s bullshit and lets both guys hear it with the boos. The fight hits the mat and Boetsch locks up a guillotine choke. He can’t finish it though, because Davis is too far out to the side in half guard. Davis pops his head out and passes to side control. He works immediately for the kimura. Davis uses a very unorthodox grip, reaching one arm all the way around Boetsch’s back and pulling up on it. Rogan calls it a “police move” but Boetsch taps nonetheless.

Phil Davis def. Tim Boetsch via submission (kimura).

Looks like we’re already rolling out undercard fights …

Paul Kelly vs. TJ O’Brien

Round 1
O’Brien lands a couple of leg kicks, but Kelly comes back and blasts him in the face with a punch. Kelly lands a couple of nice hooks, then drops O’Brien with a punch, but refuses to follow him down to the mat. He clearly knows about O’Brien’s proclivity for the triangle choke. A couple more kicks from O’Brien once he’s back on his feet. Man, it’s practically all kicks from the much taller O’Brien. He tries a flying knee with about 1:15 left and gets taken down, but Kelly backs out of the guard before too long. It ends with them both on the feet, but with little action. 10-9 Kelly.

Round 2
After a bit more circling, Kelly knocks O’Brien down with a left hook. He tries to follow it up with some ground and pound, but O’Brien starts looking for the triangle choke and eventually works back to his feet. A takedown attempt from the clinch goes terribly for Kelly and he winds up on the bottom. O’Brien can’t keep him there though, and Kelly gets back in the dominant position. He locks up a crucifix and blasts O’Brien in the face for, oh, about a minute. Then he switches to elbows. Seriously, just an avalanche of short shots from Kelly until the referee has no choice but to stop it.

Paul Kelly def. TJ O’Brien via TKO (punches), round 2.

Maiquel Falcao vs. Gerald Harris

Round 1
Both Harris and Falcao are about as ripped as it gets. Falcao comes out looking to stalk him down, but Harris pops the jab to keep him at bay. Boos from the crowd as both guys start slow. Take it easy, Detroit. Harris has a very awkward stand-up style, reaching the lead hand to test the distance. A stinging body kick by Falcao at the midway point of the round. Falcao comes forward with a lightning fast punching combo and a knee that puts Harris on the mat with 1:30 left. Falcao follows him down into half guard and rains some strikes. Harris rolls and Falcao briefly tries a rear naked choke. Harris rolls out and slams him down, but Falcao locks up the rear naked choke again. He has Harris dead to rights in the choke with 10 seconds left, but Harris survives to the bell. Barely. 10-9 Falcao.

Round 2
Falcao lands a hard straight right at the opening bell. He gets Harris back down against the fence and takes his back. Falcao gets his hooks in and goes back to working for the rear naked. Harris manages to spin out of it and tries for his own unsuccessful takedown against the cage. They work back to the middle and Falcao sprawls out of another shot by Harris. Harris eventually slams him, but Falcao pops right back up. Falcao tags him with a head kick and Harris digs again for a single leg. Falcao pummels back to his feet in the final 10 seconds and the horn sounds. 10-9 Falcao.

Round 3
Harris is still doing his weird, pawing stand-up style to begin the third, even though it’s had sort of disastrous consequences thus far. Nothing but circling for the first two minutes. Harris continues to try to work the jab. Apparently, he feels no urgency here. It’s boo central from the crowd. Falcao hits him with an inside leg kick with 2:20 left. Harris wings an uppercut that is not close. He comes forward with a couple of combos, but nothing lands. Harris ducks for a double with 55 seconds left, Falcao avoids it. In the last 30 seconds, Falcao suddenly starts taunting Harris and throwing strikes, but it’s too late to do anything. It ends in lackluster fashion. Who won that round? Who cares.

Maiquel Falcao def. Gerald Harris by unanimous decision.

The UFC airs a promo for new featherweight champion Jose Aldo. Dana White hands him the belt inside the Octagon via tape delay. Aldo is wearing a sweet Blues Brothers suit. They’re really making a big deal out of Aldo leading up to his UFC debut. Hope he doesn’t lose to Josh Grispi

BJ Penn vs. Matt Hughes

Round 1
Hughes is rocking mossy oak cammo shorts. In a word: Terrible. Penn looks fired up, as usual. He comes out aggressive and catches Hughes early with a couple of punches. He socks him with a right hand that drops Country Breakfast to the mat and then swarms him with punches. Hughes is out cold. That’s a wrap.

BJ Penn def. Matt Hughes via TKO, round 1,

Hughes asks “What happened?” after he gets back to his feet. Penn is so pumped he runs out of the Octagon and then runs back. Penn announces his love for pretty much everybody on the planet during his postfight interview. Hughes seems really sad during his, saying this was a huge fight for him, that he had a “perfect training camp” and he doesn’t know what’s next for him. Man, never thought I’d feel empathy for Matt Hughes, but now I do.

They show Hallman vs. Parisyan from the undercard, but I’m going to go ahead and assume you saw it on SpikeTV. If you didn’t: Karo came out looking pretty doughy and like he was wearing jean shorts. Hallman stopped him via strikes.

Goldberg conducts an interview with The Rock regarding his upcoming movie “Faster.” The Rock recites what sounds like some prepared material that relates his character to what UFC fighters do every day. The tagline for the movie is: If you’re on his list, you’re already dead. Yeah, that sucks but you know what? I’m still going to see “Faster.” Why? Because I’m a sucker like that. And because I love shitty movies.

Quinton “Rampage” Jackson vs. Lyoto Machida

Round 1
Rampage comes out to the “Pride” theme, which is awesome. He looks a little nervous during the introductions, though. Machida appears placid and focused. Rampage takes the center of the Octagon right off the bat, while Machida circles around the cage. Machida lands a leg kick. And another. And another. Two minutes in and that’s the only offense so far. Machida tries another kick and Jackson throws a punching combo that comes up empty. At the midway point, Rampage ties Machida up against the cage and stomps the foot a couple times. He lands a good uppercut on the way out. Machida lands a knee and gets countered with a right. With 1:30 left, Rampage pushes him against the fence again, but doesn’t do much with it. They clinch again just before the bell. Tough round to score. 10-9 Rampage?

Round 2
Machida opens with a knee. Rampage catches him with a right hand, though and they go back against the cage. Machida complains of a low blow and they take a brief break. On the restart, Rampage ties him up again, but gets reversed against the fence. Rampage takes him down with 3:10 on the clock, but Machida works quickly up. Now Machida forces a clinch. Rampage lands a knee. Machida tries a high kick after they break. Another uppercut by Rampage. Machida starting to look a bit tired here. But he lands a low kick. Yet another clinch with just under a minute to go. Machida tries a trip takedown, but can’t get it. They scramble through some punches at the bell and Machida throw a high kick that lands a bit late. Another impossible to score. 10-9 Rampage?

Round 3’
Machida throws a probing jab early in the third, before suddenly lashing out with some strikes that stun Rampage. Jackson fires back with some strikes, but Machida succeeds in taking him down. Machida lands in half guard. He passes to side control with 1:40 on the clock and moves to mount with 1:28 left. Lands a couple of elbows and then postures up for punches and grabs an arm. Rampage picks him up for a slam and Machida lets it go. They’re back to their feet with 30 seconds left. Machida clinches against the cage and takes Rampage’s back. He rolls for a leg lock, but can’t get it. And it’s over. That round was definitely 10-9 Machida.

Official decision: Quinton “Rampage” Jackson def. Lyoto Machida by split decision (29-28 x 2, 28-29).

Rampage does his whole Rampage thing during the postfight, saying he thinks Lyoto "whooped his ass" and thinks they should have an immediate rematch. Lyoto is fittingly boring in his postfight. Huh. Not a great fight, but I’m surprised that Rampage afforded himself so well.

More undercard action: Edson Barboza vs. Mike Lullo

Round 1
Barboza comes out whipping leg kicks. Lullo tries a shot, but Barboza sprawls out of it and then slams Lullo to the mat. He moves immediately to half guard, but Lullo forces it back to the feet. Another leg kick from Barboza. Damn, those are hard. Barboza gets a takedown and Lullo moves to rubber guard. Lullo looks for a gogoplata, but succeeds only in forcing a stalemate with Barboza on top of him. With 1:20 left, Barboza manages to get back to his feet. More nasty leg kicks from Barboza. With 30 seconds left he drops Lullo to the mat with a low kick. And then adds a other one before the bell. 10-9 Barboza.

Round 2
Barboza lands a left and then goes back to the leg kicks. Lullo shoots for a takedown, but is unsuccessful. Barboza lands a punch to the head, then a kick to the body. Then a knee to the body. Barboza scores a takedown and Lullo goes back to rubber guard. Lullo lands a few elbows from the bottom. Barboza backs out again. Another leg kick. Another. Lullo can barely stand on the leg. Barboza lands two more leg kicks and an uppercut. Then another kick. Lullo pulls guard against the fence. It’s awesome to listen to Rogan describe all of Eddie Bravo’s ridiculous names for move from the rubber guard while Lullo tries unsuccessfully to pull them off. Barboza backs out again and throws three more leg kicks. The last one drops Lullo to the mat and he can barely stand. Luckily, the bell sounds. 10-9 Barboza.

Round 3
The first leg kick stumbles Lullo and the second one knocks him down. After it becomes clear Lullo can no longer stand up, the referee calls a stop to the action.

Edson Barboza def. Mike Lullo by TKO (leg kicks), round 3.

That’s it, folks. The broadcast leaves us with Rogan explaining how it’s impossible to know who really won the Machida-Rampage fight. So they better do it again. I guess. Anyway, we’re out. Rogan and Goldy say they’ll see us in two weeks in Vegas … Not if we see them first … right? … right?

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dranokills- November 22, 2010 at 10:45 pm
stopdrinkingpee Says:
Mon, 11/22/2010 - 10:01

It is an amazing coincidence that everyone who disagrees with you is both retarded and gay.

Anyone who doesn't acknowledge that the first two rounds were both pretty fucking close -- who thinks Rampage just owned that shit -- obviously loves cock. Or is retarded, if any of you are chicks.
You know it's pretty amazing to me that you can't fucking read a thread. It isn't that him not agreeing with me makes him gay and retarded, it is that he doesn't agree with everyone else whom I was agreeing with that makes him gay and retarded. maybe you are gay and retarded, cause again you can't read and comprehend. perhaps you could open your mouth JUST a little wider to insert that big foot of yours.
As for the first 2 rounds, If you CAN'T see that Rampage won them perhaps you ( as the minority) obviously love the Machida cock....or maybe you are a retarded chick?
See how easy that was to twist back on you?
sheesh fucking machida fans need a reality check, and I think finally it has come in the mail...DING! machida is a nothing, enjoy that curtain pulling job.
stopdrinkingpee- November 21, 2010 at 11:01 pm
It is an amazing coincidence that everyone who disagrees with you is both retarded and gay.

Anyone who doesn't acknowledge that the first two rounds were both pretty fucking close -- who thinks Rampage just owned that shit -- obviously loves cock. Or is retarded, if any of you are chicks.
dranokills- November 21, 2010 at 9:50 am
Sho Nuff Says:
Sun, 11/21/2010 - 10:00

Ahh, shove it up your ass with your "how MMA is scored" bullshit. You know as well as any one else, Page mounted no offense, landed no shots, did nothing of significance the entire fight. Machida paced the fight, forced Rampage to engage on his terms and dominated the fight wherever it went. Sure it was pretty boring, but it was also clearly Machida's fight to anyone that doesn't spend most of their time swinging from Jackson's nutsack.
You are a retard. a window licking mental midget. hows that? still vague?
Look dude, your delusion doesn't go any farther than your own dick, so keep it to yourself.
Rampage won the first 2 rounds regardless of the piss colored glasses YOU wear.
Karma is correct you don't have a fucking clue how to score a fight at all if you think otherwise, BUT considering how closed your eyes are and clinched as you suck the PISS out of Machida's cock, I can see how you fail to see it like normal people.
EAT A BAG OF DICKS, you machida fanboy, cry like a cunt some more.
and finally on a more intelligent note, as I get away from this moron:
Dana announced George Sotiropoulos vs Siver! Holy shit that is going to be a crazy ass fight.
hey FBF Aussie Aussie Aussie!
KarmaAteMyCat- November 21, 2010 at 9:15 am
Oh my god! at 15:01 a dude asks rampage in the post fight video what endears him to the fans, Phil Davis had to put his shirt over his mouth from laughing out loud right there. I just almost cried from tears.
DARKHORSE06- November 21, 2010 at 8:42 am
UFC 123 was just OK.
George Snuffelufageous was pretty entertaining, he just sucked the life out of J-Lo (faggiest nickname of all time).

I cant believe Matt Hughes lost, and lost big. I had imagined him throwing BJ P over the cage.
KarmaAteMyCat- November 21, 2010 at 8:31 am
I wasn't talking to you jubbie. If I was I would have name dropped you.
Gladheateher- November 21, 2010 at 7:31 am
Great to see Matt brown fail. Fingers are crossed, hoping tomorrow brings the announcement that Brown will be sent packing.
I cant believe he has fans on here, never mind the UFC. 11-10 awesome work.
Viva Hate- November 21, 2010 at 7:13 am
Anyone who still thinks Machida won this fight is just a Machida fanboy or Rampage haters. He had NO OFFENSE FOR TWO ENTIRE ROUNDS! While Rampage had little offense, he still had far more offense then Machida never mind the octagon control. There is no debate about the third.

I just re-watched the fight again and it is extremely obvious that Rampage won the fight.
Jubbie- November 21, 2010 at 2:53 am
Karma, who are you telling to quit bitching about the card? I'm not talking back here I just looked at the previous posts and couldn't find who was bitching before you said that. Personally, I liked the card; I just hated the crowd. Their booing was like fucking vuvuzelas, seriously made me want to mute but I'm a Rogan nuthugger.

I didn't enjoy the Rampage/Machida fight enough to want to go back and watch it again so I don't mind my initial feelings on the fight being considered wrong. I'm not really a fan of either considering both haven't done anything exciting in basically a year for various reasons.

I would be excited about Fitch if BJ was able to force him to strike in order to get knocked out. But the more realistic outcome is Fitch basically clinching trying to get a takedown or lying on top of him GSP-style.
Mr_Misanthropy- November 21, 2010 at 1:50 am

$49.99 + beer and taxes = POOF! disappearred

Strangely intermittent ultra-violence this evening, long stretches of uncomfortably incomprehensible sequences of inertiatic motion punctuated with sizzling salvos of savage shellacking. I feel... nonplussed.

Glad to see Slaughteroctopus and Pennini pick up W's and a bit intrigued by these new Brazilians, unsure of what to call the useless fleshy parts surrounding the business end of the light heavyweight division. And on to TUF 12 finale and UFC 124.
RwilsonR- November 20, 2010 at 11:48 pm
WOW! Dana is talking about BJ Penn vs. Jon Fitch. That is actually a Jon Fitch fight I might be interested in. And a fight I might actually hope Jon Fitch wins. That could actually answer a lot about both fighters. Fitch will be huge compared to Penn physically, but I am surprised how excited I am about the prospect of this fight... especially considering I don't much like either fighter. I guess I do respect both of their skills, though, and this could present a good style match-up.
KarmaAteMyCat- November 20, 2010 at 11:42 pm
You really wanna call swinging from nuttsacks? I really am sorry you sit behind a wall of Delusions. I mean no offense but Rampage controlled the MAJORITY of round one giving him the 10-9, then round two he had a take down and a good chunk of the round controlled thus getting another 10-9, Round three was Machida's and IF he could have kept control instead of going for the BAITED armbar that you can see rampage do in MANY of his previous fights he Might have been able to pull out the Draw. He didn't though and he paid the price with the judges. Just because rampage thought he lost doesn't mean the judges feel the same way sorry guy thats just not how it works.
RwilsonR- November 20, 2010 at 11:26 pm
I just finished watching this out on the left coast, and am a bit drunk, and haven't bothered reading through all the comments, but have read some, and I thought I would share my unsolicited thoughts, and also my penchant for inebriated run-on sentences...

First off, that fucker Falcao may be from Chute Boxe, but he certainly seems like Anderson Silva's understudy. He had all the talent in the world, and an opponent ready to be finished, but decided to dance around until the judges made a decision. Jon Fitch at least lays on people for ALL THREE rounds!

I felt bad for Matt Hughes. For all the BS before this fight about how Hughes was on a win streak, and BJ had lost his motivation... BJ just turned 31, and Hughes is 37. There is a world of difference physically and mentally between where they both are in this sport, and this fight didn't decide shit in terms of their rivalry in my opinion. One is well past his prime, and the other should be in his prime, but is only occasionally motivated. One has the attitude of a true champion, and the other... well, he won tonight. Fuck BJ! He did what I thought he would do, but I don't like him any more for the effort. He won a fight that was a gift to him.

Anyone who thinks Machida won rounds 1 or 2, please explain that to me. How exactly was it even a contentious decision? It wasn't a blow-away fight, but Machida threw, what, three leg kicks and one punch in round 1? He was rocked, wobbly, and on the run in round 2. He definitely won round 3. As I understand the scoring, that makes for 29-28 for Rampage. The people complaining that Machida should have won are no better than the judges who only remember the last minute of a five minute round. Or the same people, who after years of watching (or writing about) this sport, still can't grasp how a very close fight can possibly be scored 30-27, because 30-27 sounds like a blow-out, and they can't comprehend how each round could be razor-thin but still scored for the same fighter.

Anyway, sorry for rambling on. The scotch sometimes gets to me, but this was a very entertaining night of fights. Good fucking night everyone! Hell, I may even go get on top of my wife tonight!
Cokanerocks- November 20, 2010 at 11:22 pm
Stunning decision - but with the retarded scoring system I saw it coming.

Machida landed the only significant shots in every round. One glancing uppercut in the second and a few footstomps is the summation of Rampage's attack for the entire fight. How the fuck can you win on this basis versus several hard and clean leg kicks, body kicks and head strikes every round?

Does clinch 'control' really trump clean striking now? And the control is debatable even if you rule out the striking. Gah these results boggle the mind. Everyone and their dog knows Lyoto Machida won that fight because the first two rounds were non event and Rampage was beasted in the 3rd. Total domination on the ground after a pummeling on the feet. Slight clinch control honestly trumps this? Fuck off
Smirk- November 20, 2010 at 11:19 pm
If by paced the fight, you mean made Rampage chase him around, then yeah he paced the fight. Machida had zero offense for two rounds, so he lost. I am not really sure how good a view you had from Machida's nuts, but from where I was sitting Rampage won the first two rounds.
budsellers- November 20, 2010 at 11:18 pm
i guess dana white must swing from page's nutsack... he said in the press conference that machida lost and there will be no rematch at all because he agreed that rampage won the fight.
Sho Nuff- November 20, 2010 at 11:00 pm
Ahh, shove it up your ass with your "how MMA is scored" bullshit. You know as well as any one else, Page mounted no offense, landed no shots, did nothing of significance the entire fight. Machida paced the fight, forced Rampage to engage on his terms and dominated the fight wherever it went. Sure it was pretty boring, but it was also clearly Machida's fight to anyone that doesn't spend most of their time swinging from Jackson's nutsack.
budsellers- November 20, 2010 at 11:00 pm
if there was a robbery in that main event, it was rampage who got robbed by the judge who gave the decision to machida. the ONLY reason machida would change his gameplan in the third (try to be aggresive) is because he felt he was losing the fight. he was absolutely right... he needed to stop rampage to win it!!
KarmaAteMyCat- November 20, 2010 at 10:45 pm
Rampage Danced around Machida? Did you imagine that. I don't grasp where you get that. Sometimes people only see what they want and sadly that whole Punch and Fade karate style doesn't work when someone else is controlling the OCTAGON for the majority of Two entire Rounds. If you can't see that Rampage was more effective then Machida was in those rounds then you have NO IDEA how MMA is scored and though you might disagree it's over and He won. Though we can't force you to understand Logic thats how it happened and thats what the history books will show. Overall for a card it did have its very exciting moments.
Sho Nuff- November 20, 2010 at 10:42 pm
Come on, that was complete robbery. Machida easily won all three rounds. Point to one thing Jackson did the entire fight. He threw a punch back when Machida was swarming him and he lifted Machida off the ground to prevent an armbar. Other than that Page danced around, clinched a couple times, and showed he is completely irrelevant to fighting now.
MoTropolis- November 20, 2010 at 10:41 pm
I think the card had a lot of exciting moments throughout, like Foster's sick slam and overall performance to Falcao beasting for 2 rounds in his fight. The highlights for me tho was Penn looking hungry again and getting hyped as hell and Page coming out to pride music?? Then backing the shit up by fighting like he did in prride, if that didnt get you amp, than you're a racist. And I dont think Rampage took the first 2 rounds on octagon control alone, he also did MORE DAMAGE...I thought that was kinda obvious.

But you make a good point bringing up UFC 116 Knuck, that was a banger too.
KarmaAteMyCat- November 20, 2010 at 10:34 pm
I don't know what fight you were watching? 19-19? could you pass some of whatever you happen to be smoking I want some of that. No seriously all bullshit aside the majority of the first two rounds were controlled by Jackson and won by Jackson 10-9 easily. The third one was Machida.
stopdrinkingpee- November 20, 2010 at 10:16 pm
The 10-point must system, created for boxing, gives us lunacy like this. The first two rounds were both very close. I had it 19-19 before Machida won the third. You've got a guy who clearly won the last round and was essentially even in the first two, he deserves to win the fight. Very surprising decision. I hate MMA scoring. I feel like when it goes to a decision the chances the judges get it right are only a shade above 50%. That's unacceptable.

If this was the best card you've seen this year, I assume you've been in a coma for about 10 months. Glad you pulled through, guys.
Viva Hate- November 20, 2010 at 10:16 pm
Also, Rampage being shocked that he won is not a valid point as to why Machida won, it only points to the fact that you never know what judges are thinking.
Elentius- November 20, 2010 at 10:09 pm
I would recommend that a lot of doubters watch the first 2 rounds of Page v Machida again and you will see that Page landed more and was the aggressor. CP was right with the first 2 going to Page even though the ? was added. Machida did win the third, but not by 2 points. Page just thought the worst because he did not do what he wanted. Just because he thought Machida won does not make it the case. Page deserves it. I like both fighters... for the record.