How is Gonzaga on the undercard? He’s a beast and his fights are always killer.

UFC 86 pales as a PPV event. Other than Rampage and Griffin, I would find myself hard pressed to watch this on Cable, let alone a PPV event.

Shame on those that put this card together.

Where are the heavyweight fights? The UFC barely has a heavyweight division! Also, this fight card seems like TUF all-stars show, not very good. The fight matchups look like they purposely put together to be lay N pray snoozers! Kos is a talented wrestler and great athlete, but does not deliver any excitement. Same for Joe Stevenson. Tyson Griffin will steamroll Marcus Aurellio, so thats no good either. This card is a bunch of filler fights for the real fight: Rampage vs. Griffin

What is the deal with Gurgel on ANOTHER card?? This is in Vegas, right??? How many chances they gonna give that little fugger? I mean even when he wins, his face looks like he lost ad BADLY. Even that win against that octopus guy cost him a broken face and hamburger meat for a grill

He must do some perdy special things for Mr. dana. I can see Miller coming in at least -400 or mayeb even -500 for this one. I give Gurgel less than a hell’s chance

you know I just love how people justify how good or how bad something is by whether the fighter makes weight or not, and to the idiot who called alves a “fatty” , hey crack-baby take your damn shirt off and lets see if you are in half the shape that kid is. he may have been 4 pounds overweight, but he is top shape…fatty indeed, you dumbass.

as for UFC 86, its looks good to me.
I like some of the prelim fights over the ones to be aired.

This is NOT a PPV quality event but is probably a touch better than the last one.

Problem is if youre not a UFC reality TV nuthugger, you just wont care.
Patrick Cote ? Really?
Mediocre at best, he represents the problem with the UFC reality concept.
You create brand recognition so if you watch MMA Idol, you will go “hey, I know this guy.” but I know Beetlejuice from teh Stern Show too, doesnt mean I would watch him fight MMA.
I would pay good money to see Sakuraba vs Manhoef and the other Dream bouts, or the Affliction open weight bonanza, not some third rate GSP wannabee who has fought shit in canadian backwaters and whose only talent is Dana thinks he’s pretty enough for TV. (what? you think they would have kept him when he was 0-4 if he looked Ricco Rodriguez?)
Cote is NOT an international caliber middleweight.
He is not a main card guy but undercard fodder.

He IS the embodiment of this crappy card which only seems not so crappy when you compare it to the fluff the UFC served last.

other than Jackson/Griffin, the only other fight that really intrigues me is Lytle/Koscheck that one should be entertaining….

Joe Stevenson is one of the least exciting fighters in the UFC. I’m sure he is very skilled, but he never seems to do much above laying n’ praying.

i wanna see koschek, i am still very curious to see what direction he goes in even though his recent fights have been painfully boring, he was a very exciting fighter when he first came to the ufc.

sorta the same story with guillard. he was one of my favorite fighters at one point but he sorta fell off somewhere. i wanna see him knock somebody out again.

corey hills also obviously an interesting guy just because he’s young and absurdly tall for a lightweight

i dont care for joe “daddy” very much, i dont know why, i just hear a lot about him but i have never been impressed by any of his fights.

i dunno its not a bad card by any means. 87 basically has 2 main events anyway so im not complaining.

main event alone makes it better line up than ufc 85…..which is kinda sad

I will lmao if Zuffa has bought controlling interest in the WWE. People seem to think the reverse may be true, but Zuffa is not publicly held, unlike the WWE, which is.

That’s probably not what’s happening, but still, it’s an entertaining fantasy.

You are nuts if you think this isn’t a good card! Okay it’s not “stacked”, but with the light heavyweight title on the line you know it’s not going to be, that’s what sells the PPV. You’ve got Koscheck, Stevenson, Griffin, Aurelio, Cote, Gonzaga, Guillard and Gurgel! That’s alot of names, even if they aren’t fighting each other, plus a couple up-and-commers. Don’t be so selfish people, because oh yeah you still get Rampage vs. Forrest!!! This is a far cry from UFC 85, which had its moments (none worth paying for) but had far more problems (none of which I can blame the UFC for). They did the best they could to over come injury issues, legal problems and Thiago Alves being a fatty. They should have just renamed it UFC 85: Short-Changed.

The Kos fight should be good. Also looking for Stevenson to bounce back. Its not as bad as some have made it out to be.

This card looks pretty rough. A lot of these fights belong on a Fight Night, not a PPV.

really? i’m looking forward to
Joe Stevenson vs. Gleison Tibau
Josh Koscheck vs. Chris Lytle
Tyson Griffin vs. Marcus Aurelio

guillard is always good for a bit of excitement
cole miller will one day dominate his weight class
corey hill… let’s see if he’s improved his technique

overall, i find this a much more interesting card than 85