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UFC Fight Night 17: The New Guys


(Jake Rosholt: A wrestler, but not the boring kind. Photo courtesy of WEC.tv.)

Five fighters will be stepping into the Octagon for the first time this Saturday at UFC Fight Night 17; you can watch the action on Spike TV starting at 9 p.m. ET. But which ones have potential, and which ones are just being brought in to be fed to Cain Velasquez? Read on and find out…

JAKE ROSHOLT (MW)
?Experience: 5-0, with all wins by stoppage. Last fight was a second-round TKO of Nissen Osterneck at WEC 36 in November.
Will be facing: Dan Miller (10-1, 2-0 UFC)
?Lowdown: Rosholt’s long list of achievements in amateur wrestling include three NCAA championships at Oklahoma State University. He transitioned into MMA soon after graduation, setting up shop at Xtreme Couture, and has looked impressive ever since. But in his WEC debut against Osterneck, his standup defense looked sorely lacking, and he might be very vulnerable against a seasoned vet like Dan Miller. Rosholt is signed to Ted Ehrhardt’s Team Takedown crew, and gets a $100,000 salary plus health benefits and stipends for housing and a vehicle; in return, Ehrhardt will get 50% of his income for the next seven years. 

DENIS STOJNIC (HW)
?Experience: 5-1 fighting in Holland, Croatia, and Serbia. Four of his six fights have gone to decision.
Will be facing: Cain Velasquez (4-0, 2-0 UFC)
?Lowdown: Hailing from Sarajevo, "Denis the Menace" now calls the famed Dutch camp Golden Glory his home. But while he has no shortage of top European fighters like Alistair Overeem and Sergei Kharitonov to work out with, he’s also the kind of fighter who Velasquez eats for breakfast; in fact, it’s hard to see Cain losing this one. Wikipedia lists Stojnic’s fighting style as "Sambo, Karate." Unless he learned his sambo from Fedor Emelianenko and his karate from Lyoto Machida, we wouldn’t put too much faith in him.


MATT VEACH (LW)
?Experience: 10-0 primarily in midwestern promotions, with nine wins by stoppage within the first two rounds.
Will be facing: Matt Grice (9-1, 1-1 UFC)
?Lowdown: Brought in on short notice to replace the injured George Sotiropoulos, this St. Louis native is one of the HIT Squad‘s brightest prospects, and actually works there as an assistant trainer. Veach also has collegiate wrestling experience, and is known for his high-powered slams. And hey look, we found a quote from him: "I wanted to continue competing at a high level because I know I’m good at it, God gave me athletic gifts that others don’t have. MMA was the outlet I chose to display that. When I step into a cage all of life’s problems go away, all that little stuff. It’s just me and my opponent and nothing else matters." 

NICK CATONE (MW)
?Experience: 5-0, primarily in the Atlantic City-based Ring of Combat promotion. Four wins by first-round stoppage.
Will be facing: Derek Downey (10-3, 0-0 UFC)
?Lowdown: Catone is the poor bastard who has been sidelined since last June, waiting for TUF 7 winner Amir Sadollah to get healthy; the UFC is finally giving him a fight against another Octagon newbie. Though Catone trains with BJJ specialist Ricardo Almeida in New Jersey, he’s mainly relied on his sharp hands to finish fights. According to his bio, Catone is another college wrestling vet, and currently holds the Ring of Combat/USKBA Middleweight Championship Belt.

DEREK DOWNEY (MW)
?Experience: 10-3 record primarily in Utah-based leagues, with five T/KO wins and five submission wins. Has had the pleasure of losing to Ed Herman (by TKO) and Josh Burkman (by decision).
Will be facing: Nick Catone (see above)
?Lowdown: Downey has unsuccessfully tried out for the last two seasons of The Ultimate Fighter, which either means his personality is too boring to be on a reality show, or he loses when the pressure’s on. Not that it matters; the Jeremy Horn student has won his last three fights by first-round stoppage and has earned his way into the UFC. According to his MySpace page, he’s a Mormon with four kids; he signs off his blog posts with "Dream and work."

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Ozone- February 4, 2009 at 11:29 pm
Cant wait to see my fellow Jersey boy Catone compete...he should be champing at the bit after the long delay he's been on... Downey seems like a great opponent for him, i really didnt like him v amir as much but obviously a win would v a tuf champ in his debut would have made ppl notice...He wrestled at Rider U which our top wrestling school in state and did quite well during his career..hopefully the "gentleman" Downey will hand him a win and Nick can repay him by beating the Mormon out of him...sounds like a happy ending
Anonymous- February 4, 2009 at 10:27 pm
i actually know jake and met ted and it sounds like a good deal bad deal thing but they are both making it ok. ted treats all his fighters with respect and does everything he can to take care of whatever they need when it comes to training.

in a fighting sense i have been to all but the wec fight of jakes and he is a freakin monster. he started at LHW and just tore through the first 2 guys like its not even funny. it should be a good fight though. watch for his brother in a couple years too he is actually bigger and stronger than jake and a damn good wrestler too.
HEAD HUNTER- February 4, 2009 at 8:25 pm
WATCH OUT FOR DEREK DOWNEY THE DUDE IS A ANIMAL! YOU HEARD IT HEAR FIRST.
babcock- February 4, 2009 at 6:37 pm
showed off more, besides hes got DBZ style super sayian hair
babcock- February 4, 2009 at 6:36 pm
Thank god the UFC finally got their heads outta they ass and decided to televise Rumble Johnson vs. Fioravanti, but im really bummed we wont get to see Matthew Riddle fight. He looked like an absolute animal last time and completely ripped. I think hes got a bright future with the UFC and should be
Bootylam!- February 4, 2009 at 9:52 am
Rosholt should do well because he has one thing lots of these guys don't have, which is the ability to take punishment. Also, I feel bad for Stojijininicicic.
The_Rock- February 4, 2009 at 9:34 am
Downey is a monster and he will display his skill set this Saturday... I just hope that or better yet Nick better hope he works just as hard as Downey does or it's going to be a VERY VERY LONG night for him.
Reel Sandman- February 4, 2009 at 9:30 am
Jake Rosholt is going to be a tough fight for Dan Miller.
ruckus- February 4, 2009 at 9:23 am
By definition a salary is not a one time thing.
ruckus- February 4, 2009 at 9:21 am
seems like a good deal to me.

100k a year sounds pretty good for a new comer in this sport. it guarantees that he will be able to train full time and maintain a high standard of living, he still gets 50% of his earnings so if he becomes a mega star in 7 years he wont exactly be poor, especially by mma standards.

the trainer/manager/whatever team take down is are taking a risk and making an investment. if the investment pays off big they get a pay day. it also seems to shield the fighter from any hiccups in his career... for instance a run of losses that could get you bounced from the ufc. i can imagine that it's a lot easier to get back on track with a guaranteed salary... not to mention your trainers and managers will be incentivized to help you get back on track.

it's an interesting business model, i didn't know that managers in mma used it.

although I guess you can't really judge how fair it is unless you can compare it to other deals that other promising young fighters are getting.
Geriatric Peon- February 4, 2009 at 9:16 am
Clozer, I meant UFC vet more than a long time vet, but you got the point anyway.
agentsmith- February 4, 2009 at 9:01 am
matt Says:

can somebody explain to me how that team take down works? so that guy pays jake $100,000 per year gives him a place to live and a car and jake makes whatever he makes fighting on top of that and then ted takes 50%. so is ted taking back the money he pays him in salary or is ted only getting 50% of jakes earnings from fighting and sponsers?
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The linked article says Ted Ehrhardt will take 50% of Jake's fight and endorsement earnings for 7 years, and pay him 100k per year.

Good deal for Jake in the short term, cause even if he kicks ass in his next couple fights, he still wouldn't be making more than that on his own for at least a couple years. But if he develops into a star... well, 7 years is a long time. Put it this way, GSP had his very first pro fight almost exactly 7 years ago. So like many contracts, it basically encourages him to not do very well... if he ends up a career minor-leaguer, this is a good deal... if he ends up a UFC star, this deal will rape him in the long term. Also, I wonder if there's a clause that allows Ehrhardt to terminate the contract if Jake goes on a losing streak (just like how the UFC can terminate you after any loss)... if so, then this deal is definitely not in Jake's favor.
Clozer- February 4, 2009 at 9:00 am
No, it's a terrible deal. He only gets paid the $100k one time. It's not yearly and Ted gets 50% of his purse over the next 7 years. If the kid ends up making it big, he will be on the shit end of the stick.
babcock- February 4, 2009 at 9:00 am
$100k one time?? sounds wicked shitty. Sounds like this guy takes advantage of young fighters with no money and on place to live....id imagine rosholts only making at most $10k and $10k if he learns some head movement in a couple years he could be making 40k or 60k per fight. Shitty shitty shady deal....
Clozer- February 4, 2009 at 8:35 am
Velasquez a vet? Really? He is 4-0 I don't think that makes him a vet in any way. Stojnic is a fairly unseasoned fighter as well, but is really is no comparison to Werdum vs. Dos Santos. In any event, it doesn't look hopefull for Stojnic, but Peon is right, there are no guarantees.
xocgx- February 4, 2009 at 8:33 am
Wouldn't the alcohol there have been a problem for him?
Kimbo is Crap- February 4, 2009 at 8:27 am
thats a pretty sweet deal for a new fighter.. what if he gets tot he big time and sucks it hard? he gets 100k a year for a few years.. and god forbid he gets hurt and cant fight.. its a pretty safe bet. a smart move. he only gets money from fights and sponsors and shit. if the kid gets to be a big fighter, ted will make bank, if not jake gets a nice salary for a few years.
Mr. MMA- February 4, 2009 at 8:24 am
I think Derek didn't make the last TUF cause it was going to be for 185 again and then they changed it at the last moment to 170 and he already had his plane ticket to get out there, so he went but couldn't fight at 170 so he just showed his skills. Because of that tryout, LG Marketing, Jeremy Horn, Throwdown Elite Training Center Staff he made the UFC without being on TUF. Derek is the best competitor I know, his losses were years ago when he wasn't taking this serious. IMO Catone was brought into the UFC to lose to Amir, Derek would beat Amir, so imagine what Derek will do to Catone on Saturday.
The Duke Of New York A #1- February 4, 2009 at 8:24 am
Poor bastard, 7 years?
Geriatric Peon- February 4, 2009 at 8:19 am
Does anyone remember the last HW fight between a hyped vet and a newbie? Yeah I believe it was Werdum getting KTFO by a guy who was something like +500 betting odds. I hope Cain wins but no guarantees in the HW division.
matt- February 4, 2009 at 8:19 am
can somebody explain to me how that team take down works? so that guy pays jake $100,000 per year gives him a place to live and a car and jake makes whatever he makes fighting on top of that and then ted takes 50%. so is ted taking back the money he pays him in salary or is ted only getting 50% of jakes earnings from fighting and sponsers?
agentsmith- February 4, 2009 at 8:09 am
"Dream and work" isn't nearly as good as "Stay classy, Salt Lake City."
moremun- February 4, 2009 at 7:57 am
Maybe they didn't want to put Downey on television bc he's a Mormon.

Oh yea, young hairy and german is a fucking tool.
rokabee- February 4, 2009 at 7:46 am
I wanna see velasquez walk through Stojnic. Its gonna be great.
young hairy and german- February 4, 2009 at 7:45 am
FIRST BITCHES!
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