
So remember that “war” that UFC president Dana White promised to wage if Chuck Liddell opted not to retire after losing to “Shogun” Rua at UFC 97? Liddell has yet to officially call it quits, though he also hasn’t expressed any overwhelming desire to fight again, but this war increasingly seems like it’s between White and Liddell’s trainer, John Hackleman — not Liddell himself. After Hackleman pointed out some of the obvious problems with White trying to make life decisions for another autonomous human being, White fired back in a talk with Sherdog:
“Obviously, John Hackleman didn’t pay his house off yet. John Hackleman needs some money, because anybody who claims they care about Chuck Liddell even a little bit would not be making these f–king statements. …He’s never been a decision-maker in Chuck’s career. I can tell you this: He didn’t make Chuck Liddell. Chuck Liddell made John Hackleman. How many great, talented guys do you see coming out of John Hackleman’s place? He’s no Greg Jackson. He’s no Mark DellaGrotte. He’s no American Top Team. He’s not one of the great camps. Chuck Liddell made him.”
For his part, Hackleman isn’t saying that Liddell needs to fight anymore or even that he should, but rather that it should be his choice. Which is, you know, obviously true. He called White a “bully” and pointed out that there was really no need to run his mouth in the press about his intentions to force Liddell into retirement out of a concern for his health. Which is, again, true. It’s one thing to do something out of concern for your friend, and it’s another thing to make damn sure everyone around you sees what you’re doing out of concern for your friend.
At this point, the argument is no longer really about whether Liddell should fight again. It’s about whether he gets to decide that for himself. Hackleman says yes. Dana White says Hackleman’s an asshole who’s just trying to profit off his one and only successful student. In case you hadn’t noticed by now, ad hominem attacks are basically White’s go-to move in situations like this.
Hackleman is right. Liddell is the only guy who can decide whether he should hang it up. Hopefully he decides that it’s the right move, but it’s got to come from him. Retirement is like rehab: if the person doesn’t want to do it on their own, it’s probably not going to stick.








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commentsTrust Dana to do the right thing?
We are both talking about the same Dana right? Loud mouth, sleazy vegas promoter Dana? Trusting him to do the right thing would be like trusting Don King to be honest.
None if this junk is actually about Chuck's health.
I do agree that it is no disgrace to loose to the opponents he has fought, but I think it's also sadly very true that he appears to be unable to fix his discovered weaknesses and to withstand the kind of punishment that he used to. Like any fighter he had weaknesses but his sheer ability; footwork, speed, counter-punching, etc. etc. etc. more than made up for it. But it appears the end is upon Chuck. Sure he could still beat 95% of the 205lbs in the UFC and perhaps even win a belt in lesser orgs, but is that really how we want to see a true legend bow out? Let alone the medical concerns of taking just too much punishment.
Always a Legend in my book. I trust Dana will do the right thing, and Chuck can enjoy a new career in MMA outside of the ring.
If Dana White "cares" so much for Chuck, then let him out of his contract. DW doesn't want Chuck to be a free agent and have the ability to renegotiate his contract or leave. SO...he'll just declare that he's retiring Chuck, and leave him locked in his contract with one fight left.
What would people say if Hackleman went hands off and didn't train Chuck, or take any money if he decides not to retire?
DW is the worst thing in MMA. Look at the bullshit he pulls with Fedor.
Dana White is a fukken douchebag
He actually has to fight guys with hands these days instead of a bunch of grapplers that can't take him down. Look at who he fought when he was "in his prime".. Randy x3 (wrestler), Babalu x2 (wrestler/bjj), Horn (bjj), Tito x2 (wrestler). Do you think any of those guys would beat him today? Probably not. Chuck can still take out a lot of guys in the ufc, it's just that the lhw division is so stacked right now it's hard to win against any of the top guys no matter who you are.
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