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UFC to Create Official Rankings?

It’s taken complaints from fighters and bitching from fans, but it appears Dana White and the UFC might actually put out their own official fighter rankings. The Sun printed a fan Q&A with the bald baron of fight and while not confirming anything, which always seems to be the case, White hinted that it could be on the horizon – although not too soon.

Numerous media organizations – CagePotato included – have produced rankings of all the fighters and other MMA outfits rank their own fighters. The UFC has refused to rank their fighters, which would at least give us an idea of who might get a title shot soon or how far away a fighter is in getting a shot. Here’s how the questioning transpired:

Will the UFC ever set up a ranking system in each of the weight divisions so people know which fighters are in line for a title shot? For example, fighters could score points for winning fights and lose points for any defeats they incur. – Dean Hayward, Leicester

White: “Actually, Dean, I said we’d never do that because I figured people would say our rankings are biased. But, when you look around at some of these other rankings that are out there I think we probably will do our own after all. I have no idea when we will get to that, though. I wouldn’t look for any rankings anytime real soon.”

When White was asked to pick who he thinks will be on top in each weight division in January of 2009, he deflected the question and only hinted that he thought Anderson Silva might be there. Although he thinks Dan Henderson could take Silva down in March.

Among other fan questions, an earlier query about whether the UFC would ever host open-weight tournaments – long a fan favorite – prompted Dana to shoot that one down right away.

“No, never. For a start the commissions in the US would never allow it, and these things – they are so stupid anyway. I know it was all cool and crazy back in the early 1990s to do them but it was dumb and dangerous too.

“I have got this question a few times and I don’t get it – the best fighter never wins these dumb things anyway.

“The winner is some alternate, or whichever fighter got the most rest or didn’t pick up an injury – you never know for sure if the winner really deserved it because he’s the best fighter or because some stupid s*** like that – which is all to do with luck and doesn’t prove who the best fighter is.

“Also, I think fighters try and pace themselves in the opening round of those tournaments to make sure they are fresh for the later rounds. Think about it – these things force guys to not give their best efforts so they can be fresh later!

“You watch the UFC fighters walking back to the dressing room after a great fight and they are not fresh! UFC fighters let it all hang out every time they fight.”

Oh, Dana. We get the red tape involved, but if you wanted to make it happen somewhere, you could. Just say you don’t want to do it and don’t start making up shit like the best fighter never wins those things. Douche.

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Olie- February 4, 2008 at 10:41 pm
To be honest, do you really think the fighters get much of a choice over who they fight? It's all to do with their management and event promotors. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'm pretty sure stand up guys like Fedor & Couture, from what I've seen, would fight anyone. In fact, I'm pretty sure most professional MMA fighters would. I know if I was a professional and my life I'd want to fight anyone and everyone.
alan- February 4, 2008 at 10:25 pm
The bald devil
Old, Bald and Irish- February 4, 2008 at 8:19 pm
So what is Fedor's deal anyway? Does he not want to fight? Is he ducking the competition? Does he have enough "F.U." money so that he doesn't need to fight?
No1Dad- February 4, 2008 at 7:55 pm
Yeah, I'm with Olie; rankings shmankings. If Dana thinks Fedor is such a joke then why not simply humor us all and prove it by offering a bout? Whether Fedor would even accept it is questionable at this point - he does seem flaky nowadays whether about money or competition who knows. But at least we'd know exactly who is doing the ducking and put this whole stupid drama behind us.
Olie- February 4, 2008 at 7:18 pm
Whoa. Check this quote out:

"I tried to make that fight for months but I’m not getting into some b***s*** posturing. Fedor isn’t a real fighter, he’s a complete joke.

"He’s fighting middleweights and guys who have absolutely no business fighting – and he’s looking like s*** doing it.

"It's 2008 and he hasn’t had a real fight since 2005. I don’t care about what he did in PRIDE years ago - he can’t live with anyone in the top five in the UFC and that’s why he’s not here.

"He’s not in the UFC because if he was he couldn’t avoid real competition like he’s been doing for years now.

"And Randy Couture knows all of that, believe me. Let me tell you - Chuck Liddell knocked Randy Couture out – out cold – twice and that’s why Randy retired. Chuck ended his career as a top light heavyweight and that’s why he retired.

"Then after being done and gone for a year he calls me on my cell phone saying “Dana, I want to come back as a heavyweight and fight Tim Sylvia – can you make it happen?”

"We make that happen, we give Randy Couture that huge opportunity and now Randy Couture is refusing to give a fighter like Antonio Nogueira that exact same opportunity he was given.

“'Captain America' needs to honour his contract and honour fighters like Nogueira. You would expect 'Captain America' should do the honourable thing."
Turdburglar- February 4, 2008 at 7:13 pm
Dana has announced that he is the official lightweight, welterweight, middleweight and heavyweight title holder. So the current belt holders are all "interim" champs.
mmacoach- February 4, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Most fight shows that rank their fighters base it on those same politics and entertainment values that MMA-hole is talking about. A point system would have to be way more complex than just a win, loss. It would have to be established from a fighter's very first fight, in any organization. Perhaps an official universally recognized point system should be set up by an organization like Sherdog, or something similar. The point system would follow a fighter, not the show, based on many many factors. Quality of opponents, quality of training, injuries, key losses, key wins, types of victories, types of defeats, venue (ring or cage), etc... With the onlslaught of new fight shows popping up, an interest from major corporations, and a geometrically expanding fan base... a single fight organization shouldn't shoulder that responsibility. What about Wand Silva smashing into the UFC? Hard core fight fans thought he was going to absolutely dominate (he handed Rampage some very serious beat-downs)... but his lack-luster comeback to the cage proved the opposite. The main point... Why do we even care if the UFC develops a ranking system? Let them do what they do, chose to watch or don't watch... Let's go over one organizations head and develop it the right way if it NEEDS to be done.
Old, Bald and Irish- February 4, 2008 at 6:59 pm
MMA-hole sez:
"The UFC gives fighters title shots based on politics and entertainment value, not based on who’s really the top contender. "

That's been my feeling for a while, too. if Dana has his way, Brock will be getting a chance at a belt in 2 more fights.
Turdburglar- February 4, 2008 at 6:54 pm
Nice pic, fake ass Lex Luthor
MMA-hole- February 4, 2008 at 6:31 pm
The UFC gives fighters title shots based on politics and entertainment value, not based on who's really the top contender. Dana wouldn't want to create rankings because it would show how illogical some of the UFC's choices are.
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