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Video: Dana White Can’t Stand/Is Totally Pumped About This Kimbo Slice Guy

George Orwell once said, “To see what is front of one’s nose needs a really good internet video editor.” Since he said this long before the invention of the internet, it probably confused the hell out of people. But as this new video from Lookoutawhale demonstrates, once more Orwell turns out to be right and everyone who doubted him feels like an idiot.

It’s not that we didn’t know how dramatically Dana White’s opinion of a guy can change once the opportunity to make money off of him presents itself. He’s a fight promoter.  Hyping stuff, sometimes through gross exaggerations of the truth, is what he does.  We knew this. But something about seeing the contrast between what DW claimed to believe about Kimbo Slice before he was in the UFC and what he had to say about him after he signed on for "The Ultimate Fighter" really slammed the point home.  White is a salesman, and salesmen tend to value honesty less than they value sales.

Again, we knew this. It’s just probably a good idea to remind ourselves every once in a while.

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bobroode- September 14, 2011 at 8:19 am
Slice is a joke, its not hard to beat up Fat thugs in back yards. He looks like he eats burritos as his job.
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Dagnut- January 30, 2010 at 1:20 am
right or wrong who gives a fcuk? The problem is because he won't shut the fuck up he's creating a huge backlash against the UFC and along with that a lot of the mainstream credibility for the sport...outside of us, most people thing ufc=mma...and unfortunately Dana white thinks Dana=UFC.
I come from a boxing family and I am constantly having to defend mma, white makes it so hard being the face of the sport almost...when he's on my old man is like "who's this cunt who cares what he thinks?"....sums it up for me.
mr_popo0- January 28, 2010 at 1:50 pm
TRUNK HIT HARD LIKE KIMBO SLICE!!!!
KimboSlice- January 28, 2010 at 1:48 pm
Stop hatin on Dana, know what I mean. I helped him find his "inner me" know what I mean. And since then he's had a change of heart and he's here for me you know what I mean.
T_Durden- January 28, 2010 at 12:51 pm
@BananaPancakes

You wasted 5 mediocre points on a non-issue. He did not pay Hendo what Hendo asked for...so Hendo moved on. He said Kimbo sucked, and the only way he'd let him in would be through TUF....so Kimbo did TUF last season. You made a point about marginalizing competition but then jumped the fence and talked about fighter treatment ?? stick to one point, if the marginalizing of another competitor is expected then he's right for doing it, don't omit that by pointing out another negative that has no relevance to the point you just made.

He said he had a boner for signing Fedor...Fedor's people asked for too much, so it never happened, DW is actually very complimentary of Fedor. But the recurring issue here is that DW is a SALESMAN! He's not around to make you have fuzzy feelings about him. He's going to do what will in his eyes develop into a larger bottom line at the end of the year.

I'm not saying not to think he's a douche...go for it. Type up your multi-point forum posts on why his disparaging comments of your favorite fighters upsets you. I just think we're holding him to a set of standards that are not applicable for who he is and what he does.

Barc- January 28, 2010 at 11:09 am
I think Kimbo's alright. We need a full breadth of competition, not just top 3, top 5, or top 10 guys. A short list of popular guys not even top 20 would have names like: Wanderlei Silva, GZ Calvacante, Gonzaga, Jon Jones, Amir Sadollah, Clay Guida, Takanori Gomi, Rafael Asuncao and others. Obviously there are guys in that list that have way better skills than Kimbo, but, I'd pay to watch him keep the heavyweight gate for the next few years.
J-Dog- January 28, 2010 at 9:18 am
Dana was right - Kimbo sucks. He showed a little improvement in the Houston Alexander fight but he's still not anywhere near the hunt. Any top 10 guy would waste him I think. I like how the vid showed the never ending, week-after-week "will Kimbo come back" hype. That drove me nuts and made me feel this past season was the worst by far. It just insulted our intelligence.
UFC fan- January 28, 2010 at 6:33 am
the worst part of this video....its 9 minutes to long.
waste of space.
VadersAsthmaProblem- January 28, 2010 at 3:26 am
Jesus. Fact is fact, and that's that Kimbo sucks in the MMA world. He'll probably dominate like a motherfucker if he goes back to the internet pugilist celebrity thing, but in terms of MMA he's finished. Guy's too old to start learning some ground game now - he's 35, fer Chrissakes.

Sure he's a personality and all that, but I want to see him in the octagon about as much as I want to see Herschel Walker or Tito-look-at-the-size-of-my-head Ortiz, which is to say not at all.
roms15- January 27, 2010 at 10:38 pm
dana has a twin?
intercept440- January 27, 2010 at 9:50 pm
lets all be honest, fergie fuckwad is never going to fight anyone even at midlevel skill, he's just a name that dana is milking for all he can, we would all probably do that as well in order to try to get more veiwers for our favortie sport...

sideds once slices 500k or so he got from exc is gone and dana dont pay him more than 13 - 20k a fight he'll quit and go back to selling crack in the hood
BananaPancakes- January 27, 2010 at 9:24 pm
@ T_Durden
1) There is no contradiction between being a good promoter and a douchebag.
2) When a promoter is dishonest, hyprocritical, and disparaging to fighters whom the fans respect enormously, it is a normal human response to feel sickened by that promoter.
3) You are correct in saying that Dana has done great things for the sport, but again, refer to 1.
4) Although hyping a fight and marginalizing competition is expected in the fight biz, Dana has crossed some lines; notably his treatment of Hendo, Fedor, Rampage, and infamously calling Randy a pussy.
5) What makes UFC great is their organizational discipline, relentless love for and promotion of the sport, as well as the great Joe Silva. It is dubious whether DW's attacks on the competition have done anything to support the UFC. For example, even though Dana has denigrated Fedor, his popularity has remained pretty much constant.
ArmFarmer- January 27, 2010 at 6:19 pm
Oh my god Dana was talking shit about a guy that had no mma experience yet was main eventing every show his rival put on.. and was praised as "the best heaveyweight striker in mma" by their announcers.. and then when kimbo stepped up to actually go on his reality show for beginners and try to do things the right way he said that he respected him and that he had potential. Then he lost to a guy that had no business being on the show to begin with.. who also ran through every other fighter on the show just as easily as he did kimbo.. and you still gave him a fight in the ufc.. just like you do everyone else who loses on the show. How fucking dare you Dana White...

This video is retarded. The only fucked up thing at any point in the video was the way they kept hyping Kimbo to make a come back on TUF, but we don't even know if Dana had anything to do with that and even if he did.. it's still not really lieing or contradicting.
ArmFarmer- January 27, 2010 at 5:54 pm
I'm only a few minutes in and honestly he really doesn't contradict himself and this video is pretty stupid. There is a massive difference between a lot of what he says. "Kimbo sucks at fighting" and "kimbo is a fighter we know he's gonna show up to fight" is not a contradiction. You can have the heart of a fighter and still suck dick at it, we've seen in plenty of times. "Ken Shamrock might beat him, Kimbo sucks" and "Kimbo is explosive and can absolutely catch Roy Nelson and ko him, this is the true test for Kimbo".. again not a contradiction and not untrue. "kimbo is a street fighter, he lost a street fight to Sean Gannon on youtube" and "Kimbo is ferocious, you've seen him on youtube, you know he comes to fight".. no contradiction. "Kimbo sucks" and "Kimbo has potential" no contradiction.

I have yet to hear a single contradiction or anything that wasn't absolutely true. Does he have a different attitude when talking about kimbo? Yes, as one would expect when comparing a guy that is A. fighting in every main event for a rival promotion or B. on your reality show for up and coming fighters. You'd have to be a real retard not to be able to see that there is nothing out of the ordinary going on here.. or you're just a biased Dana hater. No shortage of those around.
Goog- January 27, 2010 at 4:54 pm
From the 9 minute mark till the end.... pure gold.
parchy mcthirst- January 27, 2010 at 4:43 pm
dana white is a huge jerkoff, asshole, obnoxious mother fucker. that said, he does know how to promote and glorify the ufc (and mma), but that doesn't nullify all the bullshit he brings and bestows...the man is scum
DazedNConfused- January 27, 2010 at 4:23 pm
I dont blame the guy, Dana may contradict himself often but the motherfucker knows how to pump people up for events. He can talk out of his ass better than anyone ive seen. I still laugh everytime I see the videos about Dana talking about Kimbo BEFORE his entrance to the UFC though. What a cunt, in a good way. Keep it going I say. Its not like most people who watch UFC have ever seen these interviews. Theres a lot of people I know who come watch MMA with us, and dont know what the fuck there talking about. They just come to have some drinks and such. Coming up to me and saying things like " Oh man, howbout that Chuck Liddell eh." Oh and dont get me started about the girls who come along as well and just sit there texting informing us all this is boring every 15-30seconds. Id say out of 10-15 of us who come and hangout and watch UFC, theres 4-5 who know whats going on. At all.
steampunk22- January 27, 2010 at 4:23 pm
@keysersoze

Nicely put. I was going to basically type everything you said, so, thanks for saving me the effort!




Fuck sakes you guys, he's a promoter, he's just doing his job that doesn't make him a douche or a hypocrite. He's meant to be taken with a grain of salt. Its marketing, its advertising, its promotion.

Its funny to see it side by side, don't get me wrong. But its annoying to read obtuse comments saying he's a "liar" or a "hypocrite". He's doing his job, and he's doing it well. Enough said.

Dude should lay off the Pinkberry though.
T_Durden- January 27, 2010 at 4:21 pm
Dana didn't get into this business to make any of us feel any better about promoters. He got into this to make a profit, let's not forget that. I personally love this sport, and love training. Dana has been responsible for making it that much more accessible to the mainstream population. The douche-baggery displayed by him once in a while, is omitted in my mind when I get to catch some top notch fights every couple months.

Some of us are a bit naive about it all, for our sake...I hope we don't take this same attitude to the used car lot.
Keyser Soze- January 27, 2010 at 4:08 pm
In all honesty, I wasn't too keen on Slice entering the UFC as a internet sensation, and was pretty certain he wouldn't have a lot of success against competitive mixed martial artists.

In Elite XC, Slice was more of a brawler than fighter.

DW challenged Slice (re TUF) to put up or shut up, and Kimbo came to prove himself. What surprised me was Slice's humility and determination to succeed. I warmed to Slice throughout the season, and found myself wanting Slice to get his 2nd chance.

Post TUF, Slice didn't just up and walk away from MMA, he went training to get better, to be more prepared, well-rounded, and competitive himself. For this, he's earned my respect. Even if he loses all his fights, I'll still tune in to watch him.

Call DW what you will... maybe he ate crow, or maybe he's just using Slice for ratings and cash. Either way... I get to see fights. Some good, some bad, some horrible mismatches, and outright highway robbery decisions.

Long story short... love him or hate him... Dana White's put in a tremendous amount of effort to spread MMA to. Through diversification, expansion, cracking the mainstream media, and putting up serious competition to pro boxing... mma fans are getting to see more fights and ppv's than ever before, both in UFC and competing organizations trying to keep step.

He can't be blamed for bad judging or poor matchmaking (most of the time), but it seems to me he's ridiculed a lot by internet tough guys when they've never walked a mile in his shoes.
El Guapo- January 27, 2010 at 4:07 pm
Speaking of Fergie Ferg, when is he gonna fight again? And against whom??

I'd give my third teste to see Kimbo vs Iceman, but Chuck's doing TUF. I'd like to see James Toney and Ferg scrap, too, but Toney wants Brock money. So ixnay on thatnay. I guess all that's left is a Seth Poncherelli rematch, free on Spike!
cecils_pupils- January 27, 2010 at 4:03 pm
Dana is a promoter... so what do you expect? He will say you suck when he is not backing you, and he will say your the best when he is backing you. Aren't you all used to that by now?
Craigger12- January 27, 2010 at 3:49 pm
awesome vid. Further proof that DW is a douche and his word means nothing.
Lumberjack86- January 27, 2010 at 3:45 pm
Most of the people who are familiar with MMA know that DW is a hypocritical douche. Although it is quite funny seeing it all mashed together.
skeletor- January 27, 2010 at 3:40 pm
To be fair I think what he is trying to get across is, Kimbo wasn't a good fighter in EXC but he's a good now. That should about clear it all up for you guys.
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