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Video Hype: Breaking Down Shamrock vs. Diaz


(Diaz’s finest hour.  The post-fight drug test…somewhat less so.)

With the Nick Diaz/Frank Shamrock Strikeforce bout just a few days away, now seems like as good a time as any to look back on some of the notable moments from the career of each man and then speculate irresponsibly as to who will take this one.  Above, you see Nick Diaz’s crowning achievement – his victory over Takanori Gomi.  What a shame that those facists at the athletic commission insisted on drug testing him afterwards and then changing the result to a no contest because of a little shitload of weed in his system.

Nonetheless, we know what happened.  Diaz proved two important things in this fight: 1) he can take a beating, and 2) he’s always a threat to submit you, especially in transition and off his back.  However, in this fight we also see the patented Diaz striking style.  His hands out in front, his head a stationary target, coming forward and wearing you down with accumulation of strikes more than with power.

Now let’s take a look at something recent from Shamrock’s portfolio.




(Want to know why Goldberg and Ranallo found themselves on the worst commentary list?  Just turn the volume up and force yourself to watch the whole thing, gentlemen.)

Shamrock would obviously claim that injuries kept him from performing at 100% on this night, but let’s be real, he’s getting on in years and that’s part of it.  Plenty of trademarks of the Shamrock style are on display here, such as the constant smack-talking and showboating, the pinpoint strikes and combinations, and of course some stuff that’s just plain weird (pirouettes, Frank?)  

Noticeably absent is any sign of overwhelming power, which is what you’d expect would make the difference in Diaz/Shamrock.  But not only did Shamrock not overwhelm Baroni with punching power, he hasn’t been much on takedowns or muscling guys around in general lately.  He said he couldn’t shoot against Baroni and chose not to take Cung Le down (obviously a bullshit Shamrock excuse).  But look at him here against Renzo Gracie:


Before Shamrock gets frustrated and knees him illegally in the head a few times, it’s Gracie who’s controlling the fight, getting it to the ground and keeping it there without much trouble.  And as great a jiu-jitsu practitioner as Renzo is, an overpowering man he is not.  It makes you think that just maybe Diaz could put Shamrock on his back and win it there if his ego doesn’t get in the way.  But then you see this:

Yes, it’s a loss on cuts, but it also isn’t particularly encouraging if you’re a Diaz supporter.  Noons shows the blueprint for beating Diaz: making him come to you, countering against his wide open defense, and making him desperate for takedowns.  Diaz’s good transition game led to him trying for too much and allowing Noons to get back on his feet, so how will it do against a more seasoned fighter like Shamrock?

So who are we picking, based on the video evidence?  Shiiiieeet.  For the answer to that question, you might have to wait for this week’s pick-em contest.  And who knows, we might even have a little something special to give away…

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Anonymous- April 8, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Gum shields? I thought they were mouthguards. FAIL
mike`- April 8, 2009 at 12:53 pm
i cant believe that you people are doubting diaz's cardio and saying that he just looks like he ate a whole bunch. nick diaz's training routines would clown most professional athletes: he finishes top ten in ironmans and triathlons regularly, and its been well documented that he basically lives in the gym. Also, hes a vegan, so whatever extra he is eating, it cant be that bad for him. PLUS, jake shields has been saying in interviews that he hired a strength and conditioning coach to get up to weight for robbie lawler....i bet the same guys working with diaz and got him up in weight in a proper fashion. the last thing you will ever need to worry about with diaz is his cardio.
Chinstroker- April 8, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Looks to me like the videos show both guys as fairly even competition for each other, were they fighting at their regular weights. Given that Diaz's approach to going up in weight has revolved less around lean muscle gain and more around frequenting drive-thrus, my money's on the dude who actually looks in shape.

I'm backing Shamrock in the 2nd round over a totally gassed out Diaz by TKO due to relentless striking.

That is if the munchies don't get the better of Diaz and he stays in his corner after round one with a fresh delivery of nutritionally useless snacks.
GSP's WITCHDOCTOR- April 8, 2009 at 11:21 am
ARMFARMER YOURE THE ONE THROWING INSULTS AT PEOPLE FOR NO REASON. WHO'S THE DUMBASS NOW BITCH? I'LL TYPE IN CAPS ANY TIME I GOD DAMN FEEL LIKE IT AND THERE AINT A THING YOUR BITCH ASS CAN DO ABOUT IT IS THERE? NO! THAT'S RIGHT HOMO.
armfarmer- April 8, 2009 at 10:08 am
You called a mouthgaurd "gum shields", you fail.
Anonymous- April 8, 2009 at 9:25 am
"Shamrock is going to smile and the glare from his braces will temporarily blind Diaz and "It's all over"!

Rogan: WOW, the glare was amazing! Pass the fucking bong."

Not really you dope, considering they wear gum shields. You are fail.
armfarmer- April 8, 2009 at 8:50 am
I don't think Diaz taking out Baroni is that far fetched, and I think that you are an obnoxious asshole. STOP TYPING IN ALL CAPS IT MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE A FUCKNIG DUMBASS.
GSP's WITCHDOCTOR- April 8, 2009 at 8:32 am
ALL YOU GUYS SAYING THAT DIAZ IS GOING TO WIN ARE SO CLUELESS. YOU LIKE DIAZ BECAUSE OF HIS 'BADBOY, DONT GIVE A FUCK' IMAGE AND ATTITUDE YET YOU HATE ON SHAMROCK? YOU DON'T EVEN REALIZE THAT WITHOUT SHAMROCK THERE WOULD NOT EVEN BE A NICK DIAZ TODAY.

SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME IF YOU HONESTLY SEE NICK DIAZ WINNING A FIGHT AGAINST PHIL BARONI? THE ANSWER IS NEVER, AND THAT IS WHY SHAMROCK WILL BASH THE SHIT OUT OF THIS PUNK STOCKTON KID.
Observer- April 8, 2009 at 7:50 am
Gomi looked terrible in that fight.

Shammy by ref stoppage (strikes, GnP)
BuckWild- April 8, 2009 at 6:27 am
I think it will be an entertaining and short fight either way it goes. Either Diaz subs him or Frank KO's or chokes him out. I think Frank might have more tools to work with but still, a good matchup.
Old, Bald and Irish- April 8, 2009 at 6:12 am
I, for one, am stoked for this fight.

Honestly, I don't know whos gonna win. I really like both fighters and the fight could go either way.

Diaz vs Gomi: I love this fight. Diaz was great. Sure, Gomi gassed. But that was because he was going for the quick finish and threw the kitchen sink at Diaz in the first two minutes of Round 1. Diaz was in it for the long haul and his positioning shows it. Diaz deservedly won that fight in grand fashion.

Shamrock: As "Lil' Doomsday" pointed out, Frank did say ahead of time that he was gonna keep the fight with Le standing. that being said, he has recently stated that he learned his lesson and I would expect him to aggresively put the fight on the ground. Frank is a better wrestler than Nick, but Nick will triangle your ass if you give him the chance.

Here's my breakdown of fight advantages:

CHIN: Toss up. For Diaz, as long as he doesn't get cut, he'll keep comin' at ya. On the other hand, not only did Frank finish a round with a broken arm, he threw a punch with the broken arm! Both of these dudes rank high on the Tough-O-Meter.

WRESTLING: Frank all the way. This is where he'll use his weight to his advantage.

STRIKING: I'm going with Diaz on this one. Frank is acurate, but Nick has really been working on his boxing.

SUBMISSIONS: This goes to Diaz, too. The Ceaser Gracie Boys (Nick/Nate Diaz, Jake Shields, ect.) are pretty slick on the ground. Frank could get caught by Nick.

CARDIO: This one could be a toss up. Both fighters have shown serious stamina in past bouts, but I'm going with Shamrock because he is used to fighting mulitple rounds at the fight catchweight. I must admit that Diaz looks like he just ate a few big lunches instead of really putting on muscle weight. This coud seriously slow Nick down.

So in the end, it looks to me the fight could go either way. No matter what, I think it wil be a great fight.
Dakyn- April 8, 2009 at 3:43 am
Diaz, he entertains me. Shamrock bores me.
smashfacekillah- April 8, 2009 at 1:37 am
Yo my clit your obviously too dumb to interpret what cz was puttin down. But if I could put it into small words for you this is it. Diaz via bong choke.
mmmiles- April 7, 2009 at 10:23 pm
If Diaz doesn't let his ego get to him (seems to happen alot these days), I would give the fight to him, although Shamrock has surprisingly good grappling - for some reason I never believe it until he pulls a move out.

Thanks for posting Diaz/Gomi and Shamrock/Baroni, boy those are great fights... well... entertaining fights, I should say.
LAS- April 7, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Diaz's wrestling is so piss poor, there's no hope of him getting Shamrock to the ground. Also, my money is that Cung Le is a better striker than Diaz, and Shamrock hung tough with him for 4 rounds. I don't see any way Shamrock loses this fight.
i live in a trashcan- April 7, 2009 at 9:12 pm
frank shamrock needs to have a sixteen ton weight dropped on him so he will stfu and gtfo. also, bill goldberg needs to film 'universal soldier 3: this time it's for real', so someone can put a real bullet in the gun that is used to shoot him...let your imagination run wild with that thought
Mike Litoris- April 7, 2009 at 8:34 pm
CZ, I'm not sure what you were trying to convey. You make points for both sides of the argument and you don't make sense at all. Lay off the alcohol, please.
I'm looking forward to this fight!
Anonymous- April 7, 2009 at 8:28 pm
to many internet haters. this is gonna be a great fight
Mike Goldberg- April 7, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Shamrock is going to smile and the glare from his braces will temporarily blind Diaz and "It's all over"!

Rogan: WOW, the glare was amazing! Pass the fucking bong.
Anonymous- April 7, 2009 at 8:13 pm
wtf is the stand up at 2:36?never seen that before.sorry if im slow on this,but thats the dumbest rule ever in MMA.how can u have that rule in a MMA match.
Josh Aint Thug- April 7, 2009 at 8:01 pm
lmao i love listening to goldberg when shamrock first knocks down baroni. god i could listen to that all day

Old School verSUZ NEW SKOOL! ANII SNA SNEEEE!
Anonymous- April 7, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Makes you think if Gomi would take fighting more seriously where he could be. I say ship him over to GSP's camp and have him beat up on BJ penn in the future hahah.

Ah sweet revenge frenchie
Judo Im right- April 7, 2009 at 7:53 pm
I like em both. really looking forward to the fight. I hope it is a war that ends with a slick sub.

Tonight the Spike and the UFC played some Nick Diaz fights back to back. Usually, they play guys they are trying to promote for upcoming fights. I thought this was weird. If Diaz wins, Judo the UFC will try to pouch talent and welcome him back.
Lil' Doomsday- April 7, 2009 at 7:26 pm
I might be in the minority, but I like Frank Shamrock as a fighter and I like his chances against Stockton, Cali. and Co. He is entertaining and a good fighter. Also, he said he wasn't going to take down Cung Le before the fight, so I believe him.
CZ- April 7, 2009 at 7:25 pm
Get off CP's dick already. Do you guys come to this site just to talk about whats wrong with it? If they didnt cover lesser known MMA fights and only the grand scale UFC ones, you guys would bitch that there aren't enough updates because youre on the net fifty times a day either from your mom's computer, or in your HS library, or maybe from your internship at the Ford dealership down the road. The UFC is not the only MMA game in town.
THANK YOU CP FOR COVERING FIGHTS THAT NOT ALL OF US GET TO SEE, AND FOR DOING A GREAT JOB. YOU MAY GET LIKE A MILLION HITS A DAY, BUT YOU SILL HAVE SOME FANS OUT HERE.
IF YOU GUYS ARE GONNA HANG OFF BEN'S NUTS LIKE THIS, ITS GONNA BE HARD FOR HIM TO WALK TO THE COMPUTER TO UPDATE. NO HOMO
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