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Video: Nate Diaz: “Mayhem Should Have Known Better and Whoever Don’t Like it, That’s Their Bad”

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It’s amazing how perception works.

Nick Diaz is convinced that he and his Team Cesar Gracie teammates were attacked by Jason "Mayhem" Miller and his Team Quest teammates following Jake Shields‘ win over Dan Henderson at Strikeforce’s Nashville show in April and he says that by "fighting back" they were merely defending themselves.

"I’m the last person who wants to take a punch from somebody and I don’t know who out there wants to hit me. All I know is this guy…Gilbert pushes him back and he runs at us and we’re fighting now. You want me to be the victim here and just let my boy get punched, or me? We’re on one team." 

Maybe he and his brother should have gotten their stories straight before being filmed telling their decidedly different points of view.

Nate defended his camp’s actions, but admitted that they were the first to strike after Mayhem stepped up to his teammate Jake Shields. 

"As far as I was concerned, we weren’t jumping [Miller]. Everybody was like, ‘You jumped him. You Jumped him.’ As far as I was concerned, you got in my boy’s face and we were fighting you. I don’t care who was fighting you. You shouldn’t have done that. It’s not my fault his boys weren’t helping him or whatever; the fag should have known better and whoever don’t like it, that’s their bad, you know? What the hell would they do?"

Their coach Cesar Gracie says that the likely punishments his fighters may receive are unjustified and that everybody should just move in and "learn" from the incident, which would be a viable option if this was the first time the Diaz duo were involved in a post-fight fracas.

"Guys are guys and unfortunately it’s going to happen. You reprimand the guys and hopefully everybody learns from it, but let’s not make it a bigger issue than it is. I think we’ll live."

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Invictis- May 27, 2010 at 4:24 pm
I'd love to see Nick Diaz vs Mayhem Miller, but honestly, Mayhem isn't even on the same level as Nick, Nick would just be wasting his time with that red-haired faggot. What they did was completely justified, not a single one of you talking shit about the Diaz bro's would say it to their face, gotta love the internet.
rlh61- May 27, 2010 at 12:19 pm

Fair enough. I agree that one or two isolated incidents won't stop the momentum that the sport has picked up in recent years. As an MMA fan it doesn't make it any easier to swallow...especially when people on the other side will pick the few instances like the brawl and try to paint broad strokes.

In the overall scheme of things in the MMA world, situations like these will be forgotten footnotes, but the black-eye at the time they occur is a bitch to deal with.
BrutusBox- May 27, 2010 at 11:17 am
i think mayhem should be calling out shields every chance he gets, shields just laid on top of him the whole fight, he was scared to death to stand for more than 1 second, and the Diaz brothers can't say anything about mayhem going in the cage to call out shields, considering Nick did the exact same thing to KJ Noons, thats the rematch i want to see
eyeheartmma- May 27, 2010 at 11:11 am
Well your ultimate point is true more often than not. Won't argue with that. But I still would strongly disagree with it incorporating this brawl, and MMA because of it. There will always be "the next step" when it comes to full contact sports man, that will never end. The fact is, there are at least 5 to 6 full pro cards a month between the major corporations. Most of them can be viewed easily by those who spend all of 5 to 10 minutes searching for them online, if they are not already shown on TV. That isn't going to change over this brawl....OR that article you are speaking of. No matter what some idiot fighter does, it will not kill the sport. The sport may never grow to the level of other sports from here....but it for sure will not slow down from here unless by law.
rlh61- May 27, 2010 at 9:37 am

First, I've never spent time with them so I can't speak for them personally; I can only speak for what I see of them and their public personna. That being said, their personal conduct must be much different than their public conduct.

Second, when MMA is sanctioned in all 50 states and across Canada, I will concede this point. Until then, I contend that the sport is still fighting for acceptance. It might be mainsteam acceptance, but acceptance none the less.

Third, my point was that the media makes a simple yet negative association in the headline of the article. The focus should be the horrific crime committed; not that it was an MMA fighter that committed the crime. It illustrates that the conduct of individuals many times is portrayed to reflect more than just the individuals themselves. In this instance, it wasn't just that a human being did this, it was, for some reason, important to note that it was an MMA fighter.

Lastly, my point was that a large part of the population will take relatively isolated incidents and impose that expecation of bad behavior across a large portion of the MMA community. I still contend that, for the most part, that is the way things work.
eyeheartmma- May 27, 2010 at 9:05 am
I have spent time with the Diaz brothers, and they are certainly not "dickheads" like you say. For the record.

Second: You say its bad for the sport because it will somehow cause there to be less fights for the fans to watch? .....Your trolling now...either that or you don't understand business enough to make such a ridiculous claim. MMA has passed the point of no return. You will not only get to see fights, you will be over-exposed to MMA fights.

Third: Your "case-in-point" also is out of line. First of all, the example you gave had something to do with a fighter doing something outside of an event. This brawl took place at and during an event. Huge difference in how the media would title and cover it.

Last: Your claim of "its the way things work" is wrong man. Sorry. Question is...when you said you didn't like things working the way you described were you telling the truth? Since things don't work the way you thought, and didn't like....will you change your views and opinions on the subject? I bet not...and what does that mean?
rlh61- May 27, 2010 at 6:37 am
The Diaz bros always put on a good show, but are a couple of dickheads. I love to watch them fight, but always root against them. Bad upbringing is no excuse for their situation.

leonard...It's bad for the sport and we as fans should care. The more this kind of stuff happens, the less accepted the sport is...which means we won't get to watch it as much as we like. You are right, this kind of thing happens in all sports (and it reflects poorly on them as well) but they are well-established sports and they are not 'fighting' for acceptance.

Case in point, did anyone see the story about the MMA fighter that drank some kind of mushroom tea, then proceeded to gouge out his friend's eye and carve out his heart...while the guy was still alive. I assume the 'carvee' had to be completely incapacitated from whatever the hell they were doing, but the report said the 'carver' was found standing naked over the mutilated body covered in blood. The headline started with 'MMA Fighter..." If it was an accountant that did it, they wouldn't write "Accountant Murders Friend; Gouges Out Eye, Carves Out Heart." The guy is identified by the sport; right, wrong or indifferent. It sucks, but it's the way things work.

I don't like it one bit, but the point is that all this stuff reflects on the sport and it's acceptance. Lack of acceptance means lack of coverage, lack of viewership, and lack of opportunity to watch.
Smack Daddy-O- May 27, 2010 at 6:30 am
The Diaz brothers are a waste of human building materials. I'm amazed those neanderthals can even vocalize inteligible words.
Shaky- May 27, 2010 at 5:13 am
Not exactly the sharpest knives in the draw....On an unrelated note, did CP notice that Bisping broke one of their rules? "i'm gonna go back to the old Michael Bisping." --bad boy
J-Dog- May 27, 2010 at 5:04 am
"that's their bad, you know? What the hell would they do?"

The REAL question here is, WWDFWD?
HokeyPokeyLikeAoki- May 27, 2010 at 12:50 am
^ Thanks, though i can't claim coming up with that one on my own. I'm not that clever, ha ha!
punchy puncherson- May 27, 2010 at 12:24 am
@ hokey

i was indeed. i'm just not as good at it as mr misanthropy

good quote that baseball one, btw.
Mr_Misanthropy- May 27, 2010 at 12:21 am
Thank you Ellen Tittieus, famous pacifist feminist neo-nazi and social conservative, for your enlightened remarks concerning the spurious debate at hand. Let it be noted that her remarks were recorded in the transcription of the debated materials. Next Speaker?
HokeyPokeyLikeAoki- May 27, 2010 at 12:15 am

punchy puncherson Says:
Wed, 05/26/2010 - 21:33


yeah buddy, those diaz brothers sure are a great example of under privileged ghetto thugs from a poor socio-economic background who have done nothing to rise up and triumph over adversity.

spot on, champ.

If you were being sarcastic, then i totally agree with your point.

I always say that it's a whole lot easier to get a homerun in life if you were born on 3rd base.
Kaleb- May 26, 2010 at 11:38 pm
These guys are mentally damaged. I am all for freedom, except in the diaz bros. that I mean they should only be allowed to fight and NOT allowed to voice their RETARDED opinions. What a couple of fuckfaces.
Elentius- May 26, 2010 at 10:27 pm
They both need to die by Mur neck-breaking. God damned living abortions. I cannot wait until they go against the top fighters. Not sure Nate ever will since he is just plain terrible, but I hope Nick does so he can get another bitch-lift. Yes I hate them. Wish they would fight Miller 1 on 1. I don't care about your fucking responses either because I am not reading this article after I post so nanny nanny boo boo.
knee_strike- May 26, 2010 at 9:53 pm
Nick is one of my favorite fighters. He trains here in the Bay Area, so he's a local hero. (Respect the 209!) Even if you hate the guy, you have to admit he's a damn good scrapper.

Nate, although also a fine fighter, is much more of a douchebag than Nick. But Miller is even more of a douchebag than Nate. And Jackson? Are you freaking kidding me? That guy's more of a douchebag than anyone in the UFC!

punchy puncherson- May 26, 2010 at 9:33 pm

yeah buddy, those diaz brothers sure are a great example of under privileged ghetto thugs from a poor socio-economic background who have done nothing to rise up and triumph over adversity.

spot on, champ.
HokeyPokeyLikeAoki- May 26, 2010 at 9:24 pm
Miss and throw pee. Hmm...

I really like how that sounds. I hope no one minds if i change my username to that.
dham4201- May 26, 2010 at 9:21 pm
Cocaine's a HELLUVA DRUG!
ccman- May 26, 2010 at 8:51 pm
Dear just and anyone who thinks you can defend this idiocy: awwww daddy left. For everyone like these thugs there is a linguistics prof at yale. Welcome to modern america. You pick your path, we all have obsticles. Get over the whine, move off the commune, and discover an ounce of personal responsibility. They ghetto attituded a situation and deserve the worst a commission throws at them. If I were you and a fan I would thank my next ppv the police did not file charges (see todd bertuzzi).

Join society fuckwads.
punchy puncherson- May 26, 2010 at 8:07 pm
i love the diasses, but no nate, you weren't fighting you were sinking the toe. not that i mind watching mayhem cop a kicking

Frank Mur- May 26, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Best episode of "Bully Beatdown" yet.
Seoul Brother- May 26, 2010 at 7:45 pm
@ilvbllythekd12: You may be right - that there may not have been all that much outrage to the Strikeforce fiasco (is that redundant?), but then again, all it takes i one lobbyist, one boxing magnate (fuck you, Don King), and/or one jackass politician with an agenda to capitalize on the brawl. These types of people are gonna be alright, but it's a fair assumption to say that there isn't one state in the union that couldn't do with the added revenues of regular MMA events bring in.

Dude, you're right about outrage to MMA shenanigans, but even during the early days of the UFC, aside from John McCain, who really took a dump on MMA? How much hooliganism really was there? If you're already a diehard fan, it's safe to assume that you don't care if some close-minded jagoff is gonna say about MMA. If you're a big Frank Zappa & The Mothers of Invention fan, do you really care about what Tipper Gore and the PMRC had to say about music censorship? You should. We should always care what morons in power have to say.
wifey- May 26, 2010 at 7:34 pm
muted pastels? a la bob ross?

sorry, I have to jump back into the argument (please don't beat me).

It doesn't matter if there were just a few casual/new fans tuning in, or oblivious idiots turning to that channel, or one anti-mma lawmaker - they're the ones who make the "human cockfighting" analogy, and keep vilifying/criminalizing the sport. The vocal minority, sadly, often wins.