I am a HUGE GSP fan and I will be first to admit that I thought all of this was complete and utter bullshit, but after watching this I feel a little sorry for Penn (haha can't believe I am saying that). The way he explains the damage he took and how he knew at a certain moment that he could not hold GSP anymore and was going to be pummeled is interesting. I also will admit that this doesn't look remotely good at all for GSP ecspecially with all the quotes from other fighters and the fact that they filed a pre-fight warning against him.

The simple solution is GSP and his corner have to be overly cautious and have only stitches or whoever touch his face with vaseline. Commision can wipe him down every round it doesn't matter, this just needs to be put to bed in GSP's next fight so no one can accuse him of greasing. A dominant win over Alves with no chance of greasing should hopefully end this discussion.

I also am not as stark raving mad at Penn for making this complaint like everyone seems to be. If he continues talking long after this hearing is held then yes it will have gone to far. Lets remember that this is the fighters livlihoods and Penn took serious damage that could potentially alter his career (not necessarily but concussions are never good). He could be more prone to ko's now because of that damage who knows and he truly believed that GSP had grease on him, whether it was intentional or not.

GSP is still the best fighter in the UFC and will prove it with a win over Alves and end this once and for all.

p.s. thanks cage for posting those vids those were cool. I didn't think they would film and release that kind of stuff.

Are you retarded? seriously, are you? for real though, are you fucking retarded?

AT LEAST WEAR A TUXEDO T SHIRT. ITS SAYS THAT YOUR CLASSY BUT YOU STILL LIKE TO PARTY

Holy Shit!!!! Lost just keeps getting weirder and weirder

as for bj i'd be pissed too if my opponent got caught ON CAMERA cheating and everyone just dismissed it, but hes taking it a little to far.

Anyone notice Hurley from lost in the background of the video's?

ALL YOU GSP BALLSUCKERS ARE JUST MAD THAT YOURE HOMOSEXUAL IDOL HAS FINALLY BEEN CAUGHT OF CHEATING AND WILL NEVER BE SEEN THE SAME AGAIN IN THE MMA WORLD.

People are forgetting that the people in the red jackets (The Commissions) check St. Pierre out and rubbed the little amount off with a towel. If he wasn't pleased he would of fixed it then. Why is this even up for discussion. Maybe its just a massive conspiracy to completely discredit GSP's fighting record. But who would want to help him with that (Matt Hughes is pretty bitter these days)? Where was he during all this? Or on the other hand maybe GSP's team has mastered a pill that can be ingested and makes your skin oily. Yeah that makes total sense.

BJ Penn needs to stop crying. He was going to get his ass whooped no matter what....

fucking derek zoolander wannabe

ahahahah, look at that guy's turn at 4:56. what a complete dbag

Karo seems like the guy that would waste most of his fight money on hair products.

i bet u jackson was laughing in his head during the hearing becuz he knows florian is at home training for fight of his life while penn is sittin there with his mom complaining about how his asskicking unfair as much as i dont like penn he does have the right to complain i just want this whole thing to be over with

lol @ 2nd video's 4:57. srs stare and baby j

I don't hate BJ Penn, I am just disappointed by his actions the last few years....

I used to be a huge BJ Penn fan, but his ability to stagnate a whole division to feed his overinflated ego turned me off, as well as his lack of class considering he is the belt holder at 155 (not for long, thank gods)
Seems like alot of BJ fans have taken his side and are looking for excuses as to why the great BJ Penn did not win....
It is obvious that GSP out struck BJ and having two fighters with vase on thier faces wrestle, your going to transfer it to other parts of the body....

But after BJ displays another sad, sad training camp with his crew of yes men and hangers on then loses, by quitting, and we find his fans are up in arms.....his training needs to change cause what he is doing is not working for him....

With a better work ethic (cause we all know that comparing GSP's training camps to Penns are laughable, not being biased but there are many many fighters that utilize a highly effecient training camp that makes BJ's efforts seem mundane) more varied training with SKILLED fighters instead of the groupies that Penn uses, it goes on and on as too why he is failing with the fans and why he loss so dramatically.

His loss to GSP has affected him mentally and it is that in which I believe Florain will capitalize on........

BJ's so called legacy as a true warrior and MMA fighter is tarnished everytime he opens his mouth these days.....
train HARD BJ & train SMART!

but this is just my humble opinion as a fan and participant of MMA

BJ........YOUR A BIG BITCH!!!!!GO BACK TO THE ISLAND YOU MISERABLE LIL PRICK.

I hurt, really bad.

hey does anyone remember seeing the pre fight video's where penn called pierre a bitch for tapping against cera? that only bitches tap, and he has never tapped!
well I think being a whiny little cunt who quits a fight between rounds because of getting his cry baby bobble head smacked around is worse waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse, YOU QUIT BJ!!! YOU QUIT ON ALL YOUR LOYAL FANS!!! then you cry like a little BITCH awww he had vaseline on wa!! wa!! wa!! I pray to the UFC gods to let you step into the ring again with him, wash him down, scrub his ass with your big pineapple eating lips you pussy!! Because if you think the beating he gave you was bad, just wait till he humiliates you in the ring and watches you cry! and the whole world watches you beg him to stop punishing you!! Then you can heal up and go loose your fight to florian who will whoop your grass skirt wearing ass!!!

BTW to cheat you have to actually break the rules,and technically there are NO existing rules regarding vaseline or grease. So there was no cheating. As a matter of fact, the NSAC rep's in the ring toweled down the non-cheater, twice. So if you have no infraction, AND the people who enforce the rules cleaned up the non-infraction, how can you have action. In truth, all the commission could have done today was scold itself for not taking action during the fight, and we know that the spoonfed, millionaire, casino moguls in charge of the NSAC are the first to admit when they are wrong. Don't hold your fricken breath.

@ Timmeh

You're reading what you want to read not what I'm saying.

MMA is about transitions. Look at GSP's upper body, I don't think anybody was kidding themselves thinking he was about to get triangled. I didn't mean dangerous in that sense of the word at all. It's dangerous because BJ can manipulate his body on the ground really well and get himself into an advantageous position. Also he can take a second to collect his thoughts. Instead all that was going through his mind is "He feels like a human shaped baby seal covered in oil from the ocean. Oh wait, it probably is oil." Upon further review...? Yeah go fuck yourself.

I didn't say it changed the outcome. I said it didn't happen fairly. I don't care to speculate what "would" have happened, that's forever useless.

You know, just to be on the safe side, maybe Nurse shouldn't be cornering anymore fights.

I gotta say, a collared shirt is a good investment for a hearing. BJ just clowned himself out. I love it when he asks the commissions opinion in regards to the "intent". Idiot, it's a HEARING not a SAYING. That means they hear what you have to say and you leave, and they MIGHT get back to you.

anyone who has ever grappled knows that when you are greasy it's a disadvantage. no matter how you spin it his corner cheated. even dana thinks so. i think gsp would have beat him anyway but now there will always be the what if!! keep bj's mom out of it, she is supporting her son like any mother would.

Did anyone else notice how in karo's video they say "now the other two drugs he tested positive for." What the hell else was he taking?

@skyler I'm pretty sure BJ has not subbed anyone off his back in his professional MMA career, pretty dangerous huh? and yeah it was all the vasaline...not GSP's world class wrestling skills witch alwoed him to posture up, and prevent BJ from pulling mission snoretrol

How do you show up to a Nevada State Athletic Commission hearing wearing a fucking T-shirt. That makes you look like a lazy quitter. Oh wait its BJ now i know why.

Lol at BJ penns shirt! who goes to a hearing in anything other than a suit, i personally go in a tux, but thats just me.

@ all the lube haters.

Fuck you guys! You are killing my chances of getting a K-Y wrestling match with Gina Carano sanctioned.

I sorta (kinda) agree with Skyler, but... is this really the best way to handle the cheating allegation? Is this what being a Hawaiian warrior is all about?

Penn is really making Hawaiian fighters look bad here.

Seriously. What does bringing your mother into the hearing have to prove? BJ is setting himself up for disaster if you don't already consider this a disaster career move. Have some class. Beat the shit out of a few competitors at middle weight and then ask for another shot at GSP. Redeeming yourself that way is the only way you can get fans of yours (whatever you have left) to have some face including yourself. BJ it seems as if you are still suroundecd by 'yes men' who are affraid to tell you that you are losing face, fast. Maybe you don;t care about the fans you have or had but these are the people who are essentially giving you income. Or maybe income is never really an obstacle for you and hence your unwillingness to earn or keep your fanbase by letting this 'lubrigate' thing......well, lube on. Stop passing the 'dutchie pon de left pon side' (ahemm...fyi... there are a few footages of you getting high and one of them to DMX) and train with people who are better than you... or is that not in your character? You are not the best so stop surrounding yourself with people who tell you that. They are your achilles heal.

They need to get some freakin' microphones on the tables... for pete's sake this is the state athletic commission.... you'd think they would have better than someone using a cheap camcorder with no external sound input. Sheesh! I am not impressed with the audio performance!

I think lube is awesome. Two lubed up guys, Mmmmmmmh! Just how I like my Saturday nights. (Hell, anynight)

@ the Penn haters:

Vaseline was applied somewhere it shouldn't have been on a champion's body, on somebody who is and will continue to be a huge face for the sport. Why isn't that bad? Why is everybody trying to cut BJ down for exclaiming that he was cheated, because he was, and in this tape GSP's corner admits to it multiple times. They cheated. Cheating really has nothing to do with intent, cheating is breaking the rules. They broke the rules and admitted to it.

You can't call one side of an argument one thing while not judging the other. GSP is just hoping this all blows over rather than trying to fix it himself. It's HIS responsibility, not the people at this hearing. Ultimately, Penn is standing up for what he believes in and there's merit to that.

Penn's high guard from his back is his bread and butter. Clearly, there was vaseline on GSP's shoulder when Penn finally did try to employ a high guard from his back. As the fight went on it became more and more apparent, BJ could NOT hold him at all. In fact Mike Goldberg gave him one of his verbal blowjobs. "NOT ONLY DID HE PASS THE GUARD OF BJ PENN HE DID IT EFFORTLESSLY!"

Yes, you passed the guard of a concussed BJ Penn who got that way from holding himself under you while he had no ability to control your posturing due to the fact that you were greased up. Good for you GSP. Good for you.

I'm not at all saying this changed the outcome. I'm saying this fight didn't go down fairly at all. BJ put himself in what would be a very dangerous situation for somebody that doesn't have his ability to control people that are on top of him, and he suddenly didn't have that ability. He purposely and unwittingly put himself in a very dangerous situation and it cost him the fight and 15 minutes of memory.

If you can't see why this situation needs to be played out in a court I think you just need to put yourself in the shoes of somebody at top tier level of this sport. There's pressure, probably unimaginable amounts of pressure. He was expected to perform, he trained for years and years for this moment. Then he had it stripped of him without a fighting chance. GSP didn't look dominant at all on the feet. Suddenly when you put BJ in his MOST DANGEROUS position, it ends up being the most dangerous for him? Come on. Use your head and don't jump on the hate bandwagon that seems to pop up during every controversy. GSP cheated whether you like it or not. That is not what a champion is made of.

Real classy talking about someone's mother you freaking moron's. People like you idiots should really be ridded from society. I bet the world would be in a hell of allot better shape than it is. Grow up, learn some damn respect or just go play your Nintendo and stay off the big boy boards.

Like it or not, he has every right to file a complaint, doesn't mean I agree with it, but as a fighter he has that right.

Does BJ even own a suit? I know it sounds silly, but if you put two random guys in front of me: A guy in a suit or a douchebag in t-shirt and jeans (TUF Guy), I'll always give the suit guy the benefit of the doubt.

Unless, of course, the suit guy brings his mom along for the ride.

All I have to say is BJ, take your loss and walk away. You are talking out of both your mouth & your ass! First you bash Sean Sherk for using steroids and then you want to use his statement about GSP feeling greasing during his fight. So which is is? As for Matt Hughes is is just upset b/c GSP is getting the spotlight & wins that he once had. Now, he is old news~someone should thell them both that jealousy works the opposite way you want it to!!! As for BJ, maybe someone should test him. I met him at UFC 87. He was so stoned that you could actually smell the weed on him!! No he wasn't fighting, but I don't think he is as clean or by the book as he may lead us to believe. We all know how he trained for the fight....it was on t.v. but as we all know it was the show that made him look like a spoiled rich kid. Well I think we can all judge for ourselves~HE IS A SPOILED RICH KID WHO CAN'T STAND TO BE BEAT!!!! I say have a rematch with GSP wearing a rash guard....I'd LOVE to see BJ get his ass kicked again. He deserves another good beating to shut him the Fu$k up!

FUCK YOU BJ! YOU LITTLE BITCH! YOU QUIT LIKE A BITCH!

HOW DOES VASELINE ON YOUR OPPONENT GIVE YOU A FUCKING CONCUSSION!?!?!?

FUCK YOU BJ! YOU LITTLE BITCH! YOU QUIT LIKE A BITCH!
FUCK YOU BJ! YOU LITTLE BITCH! YOU QUIT LIKE A BITCH!
FUCK YOU BJ! YOU LITTLE BITCH! YOU QUIT LIKE A BITCH!
FUCK YOU BJ! YOU LITTLE BITCH! YOU QUIT LIKE A BITCH!

YOUR MOM IS A STUPID CUNT TOO

@CanadianProduce: I'm almost certain that you copied and pasted that comment from one of your posts in January. Thinking of new material must be tough. Or perhaps you're too attached with what you write.

Jesus

HEY KARO YOU DONT TAKE SUCH SERIOUS PAINKILLERS BEFORE A BIG FIGHT. IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I am still amazed by the accuracy of UFC Prime's depiction of BJ Penn. Even to the point of Dana having to call BJ to make sure he wasn't slacking. Now fast forward to now, with everything between. BJ is bad for the sport.

His mom needs something sticky on her back!

You know, normally I would laugh at fighters/celebrities/etc. get put in their place and punished. But it really seems like Karo has some real issues (Besides the whole "Bro" thing). It also sounds like his family are a bunch of controlling deadbeats. He needs to tell them to help out a little during his suspension or maybe Karo should just move out and let them find someone else to leech off of.

haha...i expected the hearing at the comission would be more...pretty? Like the setting would be just like the setting of a legal court room and the comission would wear a wig and have his little gavel. With that being said of the tables, i thought after the hearing, BJ and Karo would team up and 3D the comissioners through the tables

Well it's certainly nice to see formal hearings in the sport of MMA. In a weird capitalistic democratic way it legitimizes MMA and causes a paradigm shift from viewing the sport as brutal and barbaric to a credible and organized. In this way MMA is evolving. As long as they don't get rid of elbows of any form, we should see this evolution as a good thing.

Now lets get back to the barbaric fan base: Penn is such a pussy!

@ Thoughts
I thought it was too. But I guess BJ likes wins/losses/NC's to be figured out by the NSAC instead of actually fighting. Tough luck Karo. I hear that McChicken sandwich on the dollar menu at Mcdonalds isn't half bad.

What a rich bitch. It's really too bad he got beat down so bad...a concussion and everything. Wow. I hope is vagina is healing well too.

I really don't think he deserves a rematch, but damn I would really like to see him get his ass beat again.

What a spoiled fucking cunt. He's probably so spoiled and sheltered by his rich family that he doesn't realize how much of a pussy this whole thing is making him out to be.

I like the still preview shot from the last video (The bearded dude with his hand on his forehead). He's doing what we're all doing right now after hearing about this story for the zillionth time.

HOLY SHIT. BJ STOP YOU ARE RUINING YOUR IMAGE. YOU ARE MAKING IT HARD FOR PEOPLE TO LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE CRYING LIKE A BABY TO THE COMMISION.

EPIC FAIL for me, guys.

Wow I wish I could be as honest with myself as Georges camp is in court, I will never admit I lost that fight fair and square

Bj penn's mom haha... This is really turning into a circus.

fail! on my above post, and i think the substance is jesus-juice..i always wake up slippery..

heh first?

and there are things to ingest to make your slippery

2nd!

And I thought MMA was sttled in the cage/ring/etc...

Fuck you "first" bitches