Holy fucking hell those guys spar MMA hard. Those were some killer rounds.

I think the P4P stuff is all a revolving door. One guy could beat another guy but not be able to beat the guy that the guy he beat beat. :) Plus, at that level, with those five or six names, I think it's definitely just who shows up in a better state on the given night. I don't think it's a coin toss or anything, I just think we're talking about such marginal advantages that they pretty much end up in the noise.

I guess I don't really care about P4P stuff. All I know is that within those six names are fifteen awesome fights (did I remember how to do that math right? Six fighters would be 5+4+3+2+1 potential match-ups?). Too early for that shit.

Actually, I think it goes:

6. Big Country. Now that everyone knows how terrible Brock's stand up is, expect to see him take a tumble down the ranks real soon, starting with Roy and his Kung-Fu-Gut.

"Cain's striking is good, Overeem's is much better, even if it lacks his power"

You shittin' me? Lets flip that around a bit---> Overeems striking is much better, Cains is improving but lacks Overeems power.

Ahh there you go. But yes I agree, Overeem should be able to steamroll through most of the UFC and would be Fedors toughest fight in the last 4-5 years. I personally would love to see both of them fighting higher competition. I believe Cain reminded us that the smaller heavyweights do have advantages to a degree. He also showed us how bad Lesnars standup really is, he turtles hard when in danger (like when Cain flipped him down). I believe Overeem and Fedor would've destroyed Brock in similiar fashion, but then again I was never on the Brock Bandwagon.
I think it goes:

1. Cain (just for being champ, undefeated, and just destroying everyone in a pretty obvious fashion, other than congo which is weird, but he still won that fight quite deservingly)
2. Fedor (Record speaks for itself, so does the fashion in which he's finished most of those fights, wide array of submission skills, abilities to get out of shitty situations, and scary/fast knockout power make him my favorite heavyweight of all time)
3. Overeem (Beast, huge, domination, Muay Thai expert, has ground game, longtime in the game, ever improving, did I mention holy shit huge and dominating?)
4. Carwin (Carwin gets this simply for being such a 1st round monster, another ref could have stopped the Lesnar fight, and I don't see anyone that can stand and simply bang with him. Sure his cardio is shit, but him vs. any of the top 3 in the first round would be a toss up)
5. Dos Santos (He has been showing amazing standup, but I haven't seem much groundwork, and the inability to finish Big Country makes me think he'd have a tough time with Cain, or any of the top 3. I still think Carwin could beat him, unless DS played it slow into longer rounds)
6. Brock (before this loss he would've gotten in 3rd for me, still a top wrestler, scary power, and if he can get you down you're most likely staying there.)

Yeah I usually am pretty decisive in my opinions in who I think would win a fight, but Cain vs Overeem is a close call. The two most dominant skill sets currently in the heavyweight division foshow. I would probably give The Reem the nod though. While some will disagree with me here, I think he's more powerful in every sense of the word than Brock. On top of that he is arguably the best striker in the world for a man of his size, and easily the best MMA heavyweight striker. His ground game is dope too. I'd go as far as to say I think Overeem would catch him with a knee while they were clinched up and end it that way.

i would have cain and alistar both at number one. too close to call man. cain is an excellent inside striker whose wrestling would give alistar problems. but alistar is an excellent striker from the outside whose strong and has solid work on the ground. shit i cant decide. i hope it happens someday though!

Based on how Cane struggled with Cheick (a massive striker with no ground game) I have a feeling Cane would REALLY struggle with 'Reem (a massive ultra K1-level striker with a very solid ground game).

Alistair's mass has slowed him down a lot. He's not the lighting fast, nimble, cyclone he was back in Pride. He lost a lot in Pride, but all of his losses came to big names and in most cases, he was winning the fight until he gassed (because he was cutting to 205). Even back in those days I used to marvel that he could even make 205.

If I saw him as #1 on somebody's HW ranking list, I wouldn't argue.

Its hard to consider Overeem legitimately as the best but 3 months ago most people thought Brock was. In retrospect now its obvious Overeem's standup would have killed him. So the bandwagon jumps obviously to Velazquez because he just killed the giant, but do you really think he could beat Overeem in dominating fashion? He's still technically a novice, but Overeem's been in the game for a while. Cain's striking is good, Overeem's is much better, even if it lacks his power. And it's coming from someone who wont panic when they get hit in the face. Fedor is always Fedor, losing one in 10 years keeps him in the all time p4p list, but hes questionable for one at the moment. Overeem wouldn't be a good match for him, when he needs a dominating win to rebound in the public's eyes. He's on his last fight, so he needs to regain his aura of invulnerability that dissapeared when he got tapped early in the first round. Overeem and Fedor would not be an easy fight for either, and it's nowhere near certain who's win. Who better than Werdum? We saw what happened to the last guy to beat Fedor and give him the rubber match. That seems a better idea from a management point of view.

So right now, Id say Overeem IS the best...right now. Unless Cain gets through some title defenses.

I honestly only see fedor comin out on top... maybe carwin other than that they all get the REEM

Who takes it...

1. Overeem vs. Fedor
2. Overeem vs. Brock
3. Overeem vs. Velasquez
4. Overeem vs. JDS
5. Overeem vs. Carwin

I think...

1. Fedor
2. Overeem
3. Velasquez
4. JDS
5. Overeem

Bas is right, everyone is ducking The Reem but I think him vs Fedor will eventually happy if M-1 quits screwing things up.

I love this series.

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