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Video: The Anderson Silva Argument Rages On

In the latest episode of MMA Live the two sides of the ‘Is Anderson Silva just a big jerk?’ argument adopted here by Stephan Bonner (a fighter) and Franklin McNeil (a writer) tells us something we should have guessed from the start. That is, what you thought about that fight probably depends a great deal on how you see fighting in general.

Bonnar argues that Silva was fighting smart. It’s not his obligation to finish Patrick Cote in one round, even if he can. It’s his obligation to win and not do anything stupid that might jeopardize that.

McNeil takes the fan perspective, arguing that Silva owed a flashy finish to the people who had paid money to see him punch a hole in Cote’s face. He also compares Silva’s “playing around” to Roy Jones Jr.’s, while failing to mention how totally sweet Jones was in his prime.

The thing both men touch on is that because of who Silva is, as well as what the consensus opinion on who Cote is, Silva was in a tough spot. An immediate first-round KO might have seemed satisfactory. Maybe. And if Cote hadn’t blown his knee out, if he had stuck around until Silva put him away, we might not even be talking about this. It’s more a confluence of events that has us talking about Silva as if he’s suddenly public enemy number one, and because of all this talk, I honestly feel sorry for his next opponent.

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B- November 2, 2008 at 2:59 am
I have to say though, Bonnar's face terrifies me. Like some sort of horrible rictus.
gvd- October 31, 2008 at 6:42 am
Thank you Stephan Bonner. Thank you DR. for pointing out what an idiot this Franklin guy is. I thought the Silva Cote fight was a little strange but nothing to get concerned about. People just overreact.
Anonymous- October 31, 2008 at 6:14 am
host - good

bonner - good

other dude - please replace
...- October 31, 2008 at 1:29 am
I didn't like the fight. Im not to big on showboating and putting your hands down while pushing your chin out either. But one bad fight isn't going to make me hate a guy. I just won't replay this fight when other friends come over. im just going to forget this fight happened...
Cap'n- October 30, 2008 at 9:18 pm
I fuckin hate ESPN. It's like goin to the grocery store and pickin up a couple cans of 'Conversation'. On sale now with your Thank You Club card.
Get rid of Franklin- October 30, 2008 at 7:59 pm
I'm why should we listen to Franklin? Is he a mma coach? Did he fight before? If not, get the F... outta here! I don't want to listen to some couch jockey's analysis of a fight/fighter. If I wanted that I'll just go onto youtube and pick one of thousands out there. He's just annoying and I'm waiting for one of these days when Kenny will just give him an elbow for saying something completely dumb.
Bdizzle- October 30, 2008 at 7:38 pm
Anderson Silva is the champ. He was scientific in his fight plan. He did a little boating but who cares. Let the man be many would have done the same thing.

I also feel sorry for the Spyders next opponent because now the fans demand satifaction.
Big Whoop- October 30, 2008 at 7:05 pm
"I watch MMA Live all the time and see the panel dumbfounded by some of the retarded things coming out of his mouth, after he stumbles all over his fucking words. It’s like he’s the comedy relief and doesn’t even fucking know it."

Anik was busting his chops about his poor recent picks in the fact/fiction or buy/sell thing. Anik doesn't know that much either but he is a boxing guy and the host, not analyst.

I laugh when he predicted <400k PPV buys. That is not going to happen unless a card is in England at 3pm and it shows on tape delay.
Merv the Perv's dick- October 30, 2008 at 6:35 pm
Oh hell yeah, I want some too.
joMomma- October 30, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Silva was just taking his time and didn't want to let Cote get a lucky punch in. Cote things its a big deal he made it to the 3rd but its not like he did so much to get there. The longer that fight goes the more chance Cote has of making a mistake and winding up twisted like a pretzel in a spicer choke, limb bar.
Barry McKockenner- October 30, 2008 at 6:25 pm
It is a matter of time before he loses, but that time isnt any time soon. Nothing has changed since the fight, Anderson Silva is still MMA's Ultamate Badass. Silva won the 1st 2 rounds, if Cote was goin to have any shot at winning any, he was going to have to open it up a bit more and be more aggressive, and if that happened, we would all be talking about another spectacular Silva KO with all the haters sayin "big deal".

McNeil IS a jackass, hopefully they will shit can him and keep Bonner or how about Charles Crazy Horse Bennett?
Merv the Perve- October 30, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Yup thats me. Just call me Merv though ;)

Anyway, how about you join me at my house for a little home version of MMA for Dummie? I'll show you how to easily get in the full mount postion.
Molly Qerim- October 30, 2008 at 6:15 pm
What? Ugh you pervert!
Merv the Perve- October 30, 2008 at 6:13 pm
I wanna suck on Molly Qerims big juicy titties! Yup I do.
gvd- October 30, 2008 at 6:11 pm
WTF is everyone complaining about. Silva is still one of the best, and i'm 100% sure he wasn't being disrespectful (im at complete loss as to why people would think that). If fame did get to his head, I would have to say that's just what the USA does to people. You start to belittle the things you believe in just to make a show for the blood hungry "CHYEAH!!! SEMPER FI!!!" USAers.
Turd Ferguson- October 30, 2008 at 6:06 pm
I think if the Silva-Cote fight would have went farther, I think you could have seen an upset.

I think A. Silva is a great fighter... but he is not all powerful and can lose. It's going to happen, just a matter of time before it does.

I shoulda put money on Dos Santos!
NealTaflinger- October 30, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Jones in his prime was like a kid with a 150 IQ who clowns around in high school to keep himself interested between 8 and 3. Great vid.
piemasterdeluxmofo- October 30, 2008 at 5:51 pm
"I honestly feel sorry for his next opponent."

His next opponent is going straight to hospital in a coma
Fenix- October 30, 2008 at 5:46 pm
@ Dr.

That was awesome! I 100% AGREE with you!
C-Bus Allstar- October 30, 2008 at 5:45 pm
"I watch MMA Live all the time and see the panel dumbfounded by some of the retarded things coming out of his mouth, after he stumbles all over his fucking words. It’s like he’s the comedy relief and doesn’t even fucking know it."


Why would they bring in accomplished writers from Boxing? I SAY BEN GOLDSTEIN FOR MMA LIVE PANELIST!!

Anonymous- October 30, 2008 at 5:33 pm
showboating=disrespecting your opponent...not "allowed" in my book
Dr.- October 30, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Franklin sucks. Plain and simple. He contradicts himself on the Silva situation.

Says that Silva wasn't fighting and was playing around. Then later says Silva was dominating/outclassing Cote. If he was beating him, he must have been in a fight. It just wasn't a stand-and-slug fest.

They need to get rid of that guy. Every time he speaks I want to go down there and smash his fucking fat, studdering mouth in. Everyone talks about how he's an "accomplished writer" for boxing. Well, guess what retards, this isn't fucking boxing - it's MMA. He may be an expert of one aspect of the fight but he constantly shows how little he really knows from his comfy seat in the press area.

I watch MMA Live all the time and see the panel dumbfounded by some of the retarded things coming out of his mouth, after he stumbles all over his fucking words. It's like he's the comedy relief and doesn't even fucking know it.
Anonymous- October 30, 2008 at 5:28 pm
That black guy knew shit about mma...
Jugger- October 30, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Is it so hard to just surmise that Anderson IS STILL one of the coolest, nicest and respectful fighters in MMA, he just made a bad choice in his approach to fighting Cote?

He thought people wanted to see him for more that a few minutes, so he thought he'd stretch the fight out. That was where he miscalculated.

People only want to see a long Anderson fight if it's his opponent who in hanging in there and drawing out the fight... not Anderson, intentionally stretching it out by refusing to use his skill set.
C-Bus Allstar- October 30, 2008 at 5:16 pm
I love this: "He also compares Silva’s “playing around” to Roy Jones Jr.’s, while failing to mention how totally sweet Jones was in his prime."

Everyone always talks shit about Roy Jones Jr. and his showboating/showmanship during his fights.. But it's exactly like you said, the man IS ALLOWED to showboat because he's just that damn good. If Boxing is the "Sweet Science" then Roy Jones Jr. must have had his PH.D in Glucose. Because after all is said and done, the man was a fucking monster, even against the best in the world, in 3 weight classes.

Anderson Silva is no different, it's exactly like Stephen Bonnar was saying, Silva was waiting for the exact right moment to counter and tear Cote's head off. To Cote's credit, that moment didn't come in either the first or the second rounds. However, I have no doubt that it would have happened sooner or later, or if Cote never made the mistake, then Silva would have won a (boring) unanimous decision.