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Video: Tito Ortiz Accuses Ariel Helwani of Starting Sh*t Between Him and Ryan Bader


(Video courtesy of YouTube/IronForgesIron)

Well, we can add Tito Ortiz‘s name to the growing list of UFC fighters who have accused MMA Fighting reporter Ariel Helwani of starting shit in recent months.

During today’s UFC 132 press conference, Helwani asked Tito’s upcoming opponent Ryan Bader what he thought about Ortiz saying he had weak wrestling and before he had a chance to answer, “The Huntington Beach Bad Boy” interrupted to inform Ariel that he said no such thing.

In the interview we posted earlier today on the site, Ariel asked Tito if he saw any holes in Bader’s game that he was looking to exploit Saturday night, to which he replied, “His takedowns and his takedown defense,” before describing how he saw some holes in both areas that could leave openings for him to capitalize. He didn’t actually use the term “weak wrestling,” but he did point out that certain aspects of Bader’s wrestling game were lacking in his opinion.

“I never said he had weak wrestling. What are you starting shit for, dude? I never said that. I never said he had weak wrestling. I said I seen holes in his game, but I never said he had weak wrestling. Don’t be putting words in my mouth, dog.”

Besides maybe over-generalizing Tito’s statements, Helwani didn’t do anything wrong and I’m sure it wasn’t a malicious or sinister oversight on his part, but it’s interesting to note the latest trend of fighters calling Ariel (who many consider the best interviewer in the business) a shit disturber, including Nick Diaz and Quinton “Rampage” Jackson.

Maybe Dana is punking him like Cro Cop did to Mauro Ranallo back in the day.

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rlh61- July 1, 2011 at 11:21 pm
@FBF

Thanks, man. Where you been, brah??
Your Dumb- July 1, 2011 at 9:29 pm
The most objective way I can think of figuring out who was wrong, I think we need to put ourselves in Tito and Ariel's shoes.

For example, imagine you had to ride with your girlfriend to some party, and she was busting your balls on the way there.

When you get out of the car, you see a friend and let him know your girlfriend was making you mad.

So how would you feel if your friend goes up to your girlfriend and says, "He told me you were being a bitch on the way here."

That being said, I think both Tito and Ariel are dumbshits.. but I hope I can keep their shoes.
KJonesBeatdown- July 1, 2011 at 11:06 am
I agree with Douchey. First time I met Ariel he was a pretty cool guy and talked to you. Second time, he seemed like he was a douche who was too good to talk. Then after we seen him the second time. My buddy, who was completely hammered, had won a contest at Strikeforce so we got some backstage passes. Ariel walks by while we are getting interviewed, and my buddy says hey to him and tells him we are being interviewed. Ariel thinks my buddy is asking him to be interviewed and turns around and walks back towards us before my buddy tells him thats not what he said(in a rude, beligerant way). That last part was no reflection on Ariel, just thought it was a kind of funny story to share. Can't believe he thought we were wanting to interview him haha. Good journalist, but he needs to realize he isn't THAT famous. Sometimes Ariel says stuff that would bother me if I were the individual he was addressing but at the same time, its good journalism. The 3 guys that say he tries to stir stuff aren't the most intellegent but they are fighters, they aren't supposed to be, are they? Really though, maybe its that these guys are the only ones that don't care to call him out on it. Either way I think its funny. Also wanted to gripe about these spam posts they are letting on here. I make a post trying to get people to look at my blog and they take it off immediately, but they continue to make us look through bs spam that isn't even mma related
Chuck_W- July 1, 2011 at 10:53 am
It's called Paraphrasing...Journalists do it and as long as its with in the context of the actual statement it is perfectly fine. In this case it is. If these guys don't want to interviewed then don't. They're acting like big babies.
mDino- July 1, 2011 at 10:14 am
page and diaz may or may not read past a 12th grade level, but they sure as hell can beat the crap outta you if you put words in their mouth
Douchey McDoucherton- July 1, 2011 at 10:03 am
the first time I met Ariel he was cool and awkward, this last time I met him and spoke to him he was a awkward douche trying to tweet some shit.
mmacanada- July 1, 2011 at 9:09 am
No need to waste anymore time on this article. A few of you already hit it on the head. Next to Don Frye, Ken Shamrock, these three are the biggest fuck-tards in mma. I would bet that the three of them would score below 100 on an iq test. Which is borderline mentally challenged for an adult.
Fried Taco- July 1, 2011 at 8:11 am
So Tito is mad at Ariel because he's trying to make Bader angry at him right before they are going to fight. Isn't that like saying "nothing personal, but I'm going to beat your ass, so don't get mad about it"? I wouldn't be surprised if Dana has an agreement with Helwani to try and stir up some excitement in order to create more interest for the PPV's.
fACE7biter- July 1, 2011 at 7:52 am
If you think Ariel said anything wrong, you're an idiot. Tito, Diaz, and Rampage are all inarticulate retards, it's not surprising that they consistently manage to misinterpret everything Helwani says. You'll notice that the rest of the MMA world doesn't get offended by Ariels questions for comments.
mDino- July 1, 2011 at 7:45 am
im glad ariel is getting tormented. even more surprising, ortiz still uses the word "dog" after a sentence.
munche- July 1, 2011 at 7:22 am
Rampage, Tito, Nick Diaz....it's like Helwani is a litmus test for which fighters are completely self absorbed douchebags. Douchebags don't like Helwani. Drat.
fatbellyfrank- July 1, 2011 at 7:01 am
@ Rlh61, fucken nailed it man +10 gazillion
C-Dong- July 1, 2011 at 6:48 am
That little mermaid mother fucker is in the wrong. Peep this you just can't start that shit and mis-quote a brother. Especially in the fight game. That’s what makes this sport so much different than any other sport. You can talk all the shit you want if it was football or baseball but in MMA this is a one on one fight. It’s like high school in a sense and Ariel is that kid going "hey Bader Tito said you look like a girl and can't fight" Fuck that this isn't wrestling this is real fighting I think some people forget that shit.
ExpectJesusBro- July 1, 2011 at 6:25 am
I bet $5 Rampage would be a draft dodger.
ExpectJesusBro- July 1, 2011 at 6:24 am
Also, who wouldn't want to see a smug Ariel take a shot to the chin? don't get me wrong, i like the guy, but, It would be the most popular interview he's ever done. The world loves to see shit like that. Let Rampage do it, he's off the hook for that hit and run shit now anyway right? fuckin' OJ Simpson wanna be.
ExpectJesusBro- July 1, 2011 at 6:20 am
WOW... So many comments I agree with...
@rlh61 = exactly how I see it.
@Hesh to Steel = CHEERS, BRAH!

but really, It's the friday before a long 4th of july weekend. Blow some shit up, people, Trust me, you will feel better. Happy 4th!
John A- July 1, 2011 at 4:40 am
Notice it is only the dumbest of asses that have said that Ariel tries to start shit. Tito Ortiz, Nick Diaz and Quinton Jackson. Might as well be Curly, Larry and fucking Mo.
Hesh to Steel- July 1, 2011 at 3:23 am
I was going to comment, but I think WIlson and rlh covered everything i was going to say. Note that despite his fact, I am still commenting. Uh, happy Friday!
rlh61- June 30, 2011 at 9:42 pm
Okay, I'm not taking sides here...in fact, I didn't even watch the video. I'm just going on reputation and things that I have actually seen.

On one side, you have Nick Diaz, Tito Ortiz and Rampage. On the other side you have Ariel. To paraphrase, on one side you have three mofo's that can barely put together a complete fuckin' thought between the three of them, and on the other side you have a fairly articulate guy who sometimes comes across as an arrogant prick. As I juggle the he-said/she-said bullshit...I can't help but think these guys get pissed when someone puts a mike in thier face and challenges them a bit. On top of that, the guy asking the questions seems like he might be acting like a smart-ass, but they don't know for sure because they're not too bright. Put all that together, you have this kind of bullshit.

Like the scene in 40 Year Old Virgin...See, now you start using big words...and I don't know what they mean...so I'm going to take them as dissrespect.

Fuckin' comical at best. I'll say it again...

Rampage = I'm a bully
Tito = I'm scared that Bader's going to kill me
Nick = I'm high as a muphuker
Arial = I've got a mike; these fuckers can't touch me
Anhonestmoose- June 30, 2011 at 9:06 pm
At some point you should say to yourself "maybe it's me." This would probably be a good time for Helwani to do a little introspection.
RwilsonR- June 30, 2011 at 8:41 pm
Well, I just watched the video, and Ariel never said that Tito said Bader had weak wrestling. Ariel asked Bader what he thought about his interview with Tito, and when he asked Tito what he thought Bader's weaknesses are, and he brought up his wrestling. That is not leading, and Ariel didn't call it weak wrestling.
 
So this is essentially the argument in Ariel's phrasing:
"Do you see any holes in his game?"
"Yes, in his takedowns and takedown defense"
VS
"Do you see any weaknesses in his game?"
"Yes, in his wrestling."
 
That is the extent of it. If anything, Tito put words in Ariel's mouth.
I generally agree with ccman on the bloggers circling the wagons when one of their own is attacked, and Ariel has done some good work, and also deserves some of the criticism as a provocateur. He also takes himself way too seriously in trying to be a Howard Cossell wannabe. In this case, however, he didn't do anything that I think warrants much criticism.
ccman- June 30, 2011 at 8:38 pm
End game? If I was tito fighting for my career and watched a journalist misquote me firing up my opponent I would stop it also. Actually if I was tito I would kill myself but again, it is tito.
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Christan Audigier bikini for $23? Awesome!
bescaredhomie- June 30, 2011 at 7:42 pm
you see? you see?.....that's intigation right there.
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